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#345564 - 07/21/08 05:59 AM
Prostitution to be legalized in San Francisco?
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http://adultfyi.com/read.php?ID=29143---------------------------------------- San Francisco- San Francisco will shortly vote on a kind of de facto legalization of prostitution within city limits. While the state of California prohibits prostitution, the referendum would prevent city police or prosecutors from spending any money on enforcement of those laws. Even the often-outrageous mayor, Gavin Newsom, thinks this is a bad idea: A measure that aims to keep prostitutes from facing criminal charges has qualified for the November ballot in San Francisco. The measure, which qualified Friday, would bar authorities from spending money to investigate or prosecute prostitutes for engaging in prostitution. This is the second time the measure has attempted to get on the ballot. The Erotic Service Providers Union — yes, prostitutes have a union in San Francisco — tried to get enough signatures in 2006 but fell short. They managed to convince enough people to sign it this time, and one wonders if they had to put a new meaning on “by hook or by crook” to do it. Newsom objects to the measure as an impediment to investigating sex-trafficking crimes. It also might present a major challenge to state sovereignty. If California cities do not have to enforce state laws, then the entire notion of the sovereign state collapses. The California legislature might have to change jurisdictional laws to impose a state police force on San Francisco. All prurient curiosity aside, this vote could present an interesting political challenge for Californians. If the state lets this stand, where does its sovereignty end, or even begin?
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#345565 - 07/21/08 01:20 PM
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Rob Black's Crack Pipe
Registered: 07/12/06
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This just in.... Greyhound tickets to San Francisco reach all time high.
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#345566 - 07/21/08 01:26 PM
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Porn Jesus
Registered: 09/07/05
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Loc: NYC
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If it's legal, will it bring the prices down? Burg? Someone explain.
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#345568 - 07/21/08 02:23 PM
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Porn Fucking Master
Registered: 02/23/05
Posts: 3724
Loc: Paddling my canoe in the wild
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If it's legal, will it bring the prices down?
I'll take a stab at it:
As you are aware, in an open market, price is dictated by supply and demand. While demand is likely to stay more or less static following legalization, the supply should increase since a number of the impediments to women entering the sex industry would be removed: a. no risk of criminal charges; and more importantly, b. it should be much safer (particulary for the vendor).
As a result, more people will enter the sex trade, and those services will be more readily available, which should lead to a decrease in price.
My conclusion is purely speculative, but I think it should be safer since by removing the criminality, the acitivity would not have to take place "on the down-low", so it would be less likely for organized crime (or street pimps at the lower end) to control the markets. Point of sale should be safer too since a decreased need for anonymity/secrecy would reduce the number of hookers that get bumped off while out on a call. Note that I said danger would be decreased, not removed - even cable repair guys occasionally get bumped off in the field.
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#345569 - 07/21/08 02:31 PM
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Gay For Pay
Registered: 05/16/07
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Sounds sort of like the decision in North Hollywood (I think it was) a year or two ago to stop enforcement of marijuana laws targeting individual users who weren't dealing and with less than an ounce. It conflicts with state law, but the city decides how to spend its resources.  I think I'd want to see the text of the law itself; it sounds like it would be exempting individual prostitutes from prosecution but still leave pimps and sexual traffickers open for prosecution. Can't trust some right wing blog for all the details (hotair.com?) That original article links from this on "cbs5.com" with an interesting quote: Quote:
A San Francisco first-time offender program that allows men to avoid charges for soliciting a prostitute if they attend a class and pay a fine would also end under the measure.
So maybe it would just focus enforcement on Johns?
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#345570 - 07/21/08 07:38 PM
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Porn Jesus
Registered: 01/02/05
Posts: 5750
Loc: ATLANTIC CITY
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If it's legal, will it bring the prices down? Burg? Someone explain.
In theory it will bring the price down, if the assumptions that follow hold true:
-- The Cost of doing business, both in real dollars and in PSychological Stress falls, this will allow whores to charge less, and it will cause knowledgeable customers to INSIST on lower prices because whores no longer have to retain a lawyer, pay for legal shit, and/or pay for a shrink to help them cope with stress, ala Elizabeth Shue in Leaving las Vegas. Less stress means less need for drugs, so less money is needed there too. PLUS...knowing San Fran, they will open whore clinics and services to help out and implement HARM REDUCTION programs. Now, since I, Burgl'ar Whoreanova, am only concerned with the safety and well being of the upper echelon of whores, I wont tell them to go to get pap smears or exams at these clinics, but I will tell them that these clinics are greaqt places to score a few pills to tide them over until their regular connection hooks up. This will also slightly drive down prices since free pills = less money whores need to charge and will refrain from doing so to compete...
-- The assumption that their will now be MORE whores since the fear and threat of law enforcement may have curtailed or prevented certain would-be whores from realizing their full whore potential. I think this is really the case... I see soooo many reasonably hot-or-better chicks working in Malls and Offices that are totally disenchanted with life and want money and / or more sex. Plus, they are lazy which is why they are in such a job in the first place....without worrying about being busted, they can freely sell access to their holes 24/7! This increases the supply of whores in general and causes the greater number of whores to be fighting for the same sized pie. Who benefits? Mr John Q. LoadSplooger ....
The Supply of whores in San Fran will further outpace DEMAND for whores because whores from other areas will FLOCK to san fran to PLY their trade in this worry free environment. Much Like Vegas used to experience in the 1990s when there was a huge fight and whores from all over the country flocked to Vegas, it will happen in San Fran too.
-- Further depressing the price of whore services will be decreasing overall quality of the average whore. While it is true very HOT, aimless, lazy, amoral chicks in their late teens and early twenties will sell themselves in order to be able to SHOP at a place like Saks for the first time in their lives, along with many other EXCLUSIVE Bay area enclaves (or even travel down to Beverly Hills, or even Newport Beach and fashion Island), the new laws will also attract Average looking whores or even (Tyra) SKANKS! These Sub-quality whores will be willing to do ANYTHING to compete with the high class/quality girls, and this will force prices DOWN as well.
Now only Gia will understand this, and maybe Stoli: If you examine how much Utility the average crippled pervert derives from a Blowjob with open mouth cumshot and extended cumplay, it is very clear that the attractiveness of the girl eventually plateaus at a certain point so that diminishing returns for the utility of this cum slam happens by exceeding that certain SPECIFIC level of hotness that "Does it" for any particular Burglar.... Look at it this way, If I blast my load in a Slightly above average chick and she is enthusiastic, nice and cleans my footrests for me, all for X amount of dollars, how much a greater experience would it really be if I paid Giselle Bundchen 5X dollars to do the same thing, and have Giselle bitch about cleaning my footrsts or refuse to look me in the eye at the exact moment my splooge is hitting her tongue? You see where I am going here?
But it is NOT cut and dry that prices will go down across the board. Whores are a Niche Market, the Nichiest of the Niches. Niches within Niches...PLUS, Demand for whores will go up too in some ways because the LEGAL hassles cut both ways to customers as wll, and the average "CCP" will also NOT have to maintain lots of pills around to cope with whores in withdrawal since the whores can find drugs easier, and that makes it easier for the CCP to impetuously call for takeout pussy, etc.
I'll discuss this more later, I need a blowjob....
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#345571 - 07/21/08 08:52 PM
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To make hookers legal anywhere they would need to have in place a viable infrastructure that would still oversee that operations are going smoothly. The same as the do in Nevada.....such as strict policies governing the testing of the working girls....etc.
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#345572 - 07/22/08 12:56 AM
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Kurt Lackwood's Fluffer
Registered: 01/18/06
Posts: 1283
Loc: SoCal
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I think prices may increase with legalization. When it is illegal it is more like paying an independent contractor under the table.
With legalization comes taxes, regulation, weekly medical checks, bookkeeping, and all the other expenses of running a legitimate business.
It will be interesting to see what actually happens if it passes.
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