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#34376 - 06/27/04 10:50 PM rehearsals before porn shoot / porn actors' say
ben Offline
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I'm wondering if there is much rehearsal that goes on before a porn scene is shot and if so is it very detailed? Does the director go through all the different positions that will be involved and the order they'll be done in and if there will be cum swallowing etc beforehand? This way girls could say "No I don't want to do that - leave that bit out".
Does the girl have much say in what the final movie looks like? For example if she is not happy with a particular scene can she have that bit left out of the final movie?

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#34377 - 06/29/04 05:23 AM Re: rehearsals before porn shoot / porn actors' say
Kami Andrews Offline
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#34378 - 06/29/04 03:06 PM Re: rehearsals before porn shoot / porn actors' sa
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I don't think the girl has much say in any of the final product.

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#34379 - 06/29/04 03:47 PM Re: rehearsals before porn shoot / porn actors' sa
ben Offline
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Do girls know beforehand what will happen during the shoot? For example that the shoot will involve vaginal, anal, double penetration and cum swallowing? Or is she just told midway through the shoot? Like "let's do double penetration now" or "Open your mouth I'm going to cum in it and then you should swallow it" I imagine that she'd have an idea before the shoot what will be involved as payment would be organised beforehand. Then if during the shoot the director said "I think we need a double penetration" that wasn't previously organised he'd say " we'll pay you this much extra to do this extra stuff" Is payment usually made at the end of the day? Are girls given a time period for the shoot eg "this will take 4 hours" Then if for some reason the director hasn't got organised within 4 hours the girl can leave and still get paid? Is there much bullying of girls that goes on in the porn industry and girls getting made to do something they're not happy with? I think it would seem difficult to girls to speak out because guys would just go "oh well what do you expect - this is porn" or being afraid of the company saying "oh that girl's a flake - don't hire her"

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#34380 - 06/29/04 04:54 PM Re: rehearsals before porn shoot / porn actors' sa
Kami Andrews Offline
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a lot depends on who books your work.

I had a girl show up to do a bondage set with me last week and her agent had not told her a thing! she had no idea how much she was being paid or why she was there! info her agent knew!

my agent tells me who I am working for, and who im working with, then they check the other talents tests for me and they tell me what im doing and what I will be paid, they give me a call time and make up artist info and what clothes to bring. if something "extra" comes up i get more money or i can call the agency and let them handle it. I never have to do anything that wasnt previously agreed on. (although being the uber whore I am I am normally game for more)

Producers will often try to sneak shit in on you, like "So how bout we do a double vag while your here"(hehe I snuck a double vag in on GBS hahaha I felt so bad for marcos) but it's up to you if you do it.

misscommunications do sometimes happen.But if you have a good agent it shouldn't be a issue, and if you book your own work, you find it all out for yourself before you arrive.

you get a feel for how long most shooters take, example, you work for adam and eve you will be there 12 hours you shoot a jm gag factor you can be in and out in an hour.

i love shooting for pussyman cause he shoots soft and hard with 2 cameras at the same time! mmmmmmmmm fast shoot


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#34381 - 06/29/04 06:40 PM Re: rehearsals before porn shoot / porn actors' sa
ben Offline
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Thanks Kami I hope that girls aren't bullied into scenes eg in the middle of a normal sex scene the director says "let's make this a double penetration" - its probably a hard and intimidating situation for the girl to say no. In this circumstance its a fine line between porn and rape, and then if the girl did report the people involved she'd be nervous that other companies wouldn't want to hire her...

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#34382 - 06/29/04 07:16 PM Re: rehearsals before porn shoot / porn actors' sa
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Even if the girls aren't forced into things, we'd never know about it. Some secrets are pretty well kept in the porn industry.

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#34383 - 06/29/04 07:40 PM Re: rehearsals before porn shoot / porn actors' sa
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Thanks Kami I hope that girls aren't bullied into scenes eg in the middle of a normal sex scene the director says "let's make this a double penetration" - its probably a hard and intimidating situation for the girl to say no. In this circumstance its a fine line between porn and rape, and then if the girl did report the people involved she'd be nervous that other companies wouldn't want to hire her...



Running to a gossip site and giving a “raped!” sob story isn't the best career-enhancing idea. On the other hand I suspect most in the industry know who the jerks are and won't hold it against the girl. Vicky Vette went through something like this with Anabolic and got by OK afterwards (some info on that incident here).
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#34384 - 06/30/04 04:24 AM Re: rehearsals before porn shoot / porn actors' sa
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In this circumstance its a fine line between porn and rape,




*sigh*
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#34385 - 06/30/04 11:10 AM Re: rehearsals before porn shoot / porn actors' say
Kryptic Offline
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The directors pretty much go through the scene as far as what positions they want and where the pop will be. A few directors might try to throw some extra's in for free. But not sure if they would go to the extreme of double vags or anals. And then the talent will more than likely go through there do's and don'ts with eachother (slapping and spitting and such). Also the camera guy might go through what he is looking for as well, look at the camera or don't look at the camera depending on what is being shot. Also how he wants the positions to look. It is pretty straight forward but there is always snags.
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#34386 - 06/30/04 12:08 PM Re: rehearsals before porn shoot / porn actors' say
Kami Andrews Offline
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I have *never* even remotly felt like I could not leave any time I wanted to, and I have worked for pretty much every one (sept vivid, they may be rapists)

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#34387 - 06/30/04 12:18 PM Re: rehearsals before porn shoot / porn actors' sa
smiling arab Offline
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Err, no matter what the product is, buyers try to get the lowest price and sellers the highest. Capitalism. You just happen to be dealing with a commodity that is a sex act rather than rubber erasers.
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#34388 - 06/30/04 01:04 PM Re: rehearsals before porn shoot / porn actors' sa
JRV Offline
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I have *never* even remotly felt like I could not leave any time I wanted to, and I have worked for pretty much every one (sept vivid, they may be rapists)



Kami, what is the smallest number of people around during a video shoot?

Except for maybe Ed Powers I doubt it’s as though a psycho director could force a girl without a several witnesses, many of whom might step in if things got out of hand.
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#34389 - 06/30/04 06:23 PM Re: rehearsals before porn shoot / porn actors' sa
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Except for maybe Ed Powers I doubt it’s as though a psycho director could force a girl without a several witnesses, many of whom might step in if things got out of hand.




Exactly.

The point was made above that just because a performer feels compelled to do something on set, for money or even because the director might get mad if she doesn't, then it borders on rape.

That's beyond silly.

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#34390 - 06/30/04 06:54 PM Re: rehearsals before porn shoot / porn actors' sa
Kami Andrews Offline
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I felt more pressure to do things I wasn't comfortable with when i worked in retail

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