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It seems like she just can't quite completely cut her ties to the industry.

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i saw that as well. i think grant left the business a long time ago.

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Crissy did do quite a few solo vids and photo shoots as well as a number of lesbian shoots, but that hardly qualified her as porn star.

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This can be said of a lot of women who do most of their work on one exclusive website. Catalina Cruz, Nicole Graves, Sandee Westgate.... Are they "stars" or not? Who knows. In reality, there was only one "star" in porn, and she's a retired, divorced stick figure ::bananaclubjennasecurity::

What always struck me about Crissy Moran is that her meltdown was totally unexpected. She could basically choose who she worked with, what she did, and when she did it. It's not like Kara Mynor slitting her wrists in the middle of the street.

Ditto for Erica Campbell...not so much as a dildo in that whore's babyhole.

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In reality, there was only one "star" in porn, and she's a retired, divorced stick figure ::bananaclubjennasecurity::

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You're joking right? Jenna Jameson is the only star porn has seen? You've just insulted every 70's, 80's, 90's, and current performer for an overrated flake.

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Honey, being a "star" is a matter of perception. JJ convinced enough people that she was a "star" so that people believed her, drug habits, divorces and performance capabilities notwithstanding.

I challenge you to have contemporarily surveyed 100 average people and see if they consider any of these retired whores as "stars:"

Marilyn Chambers
Georgina Spelvin
Constance Money
Lois Ayres
Nina Hartley
Shauna Grant
Ashlyn Gere
Barbara Dare
Inari Vachs
Nikki Dial
Kaitlyn Ashley
Mimi Miyagi

I doubt you'll get more than few responses, mostly about whores who were more "infamous" than famous for being dead, drugged up, associated with a laundry detergent, etc.

Rise above the litter and think. Porn does not have "stars." Porn has a collection of socially maladjusted fuckups who are collecting enough money until they can get out, or until their life becomes so unmanageable that they leave prematurely. Don't think I'm right, ask Crissy Moran yourself.

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Traci Lords, Ginger Lynn Allen, Marilyn Chambers, John Holmes, and Ron Jeremy to name a few are more known by people than Jenna Jameson.

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Traci Lords, Ginger Lynn Allen, Marilyn Chambers, John Holmes, and Ron Jeremy to name a few are more known by people than Jenna Jameson.

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Ginger Lynn...unknown to the general public
Marilyn Chambers...more infamous than famous
John Holmes...famous because dead
Ron Jeremy...honestly, do you want this shitbag as the "icon" of porn. Why not Jamie Gillis? He was a better actor, did edgier films (Waterpower, anyone?) and never bragged about being able to suck his own dick.

I realize you hate JJ. Get over it...porn is a business full of fuckups. You all fucked up in promoting the wrong whore for a decade...get over it and find a better whore.

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My mother of all people knows everyone on that list I mentioned. And she hate sporn.

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I doubt this statement. Either you have mentioned these names to her in the past or your are just lying. In statistics, that's called "poisoning the pool." My father has a DVD of Misty Beethoven, which is arguably the "best" porno ever produced, and I doubt he could name a single person in that film...or even know that "Henry Paris" was a flashy disguise for Radley Metzger.

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And no I don't want Ron Jeremy as the "icon" but he is whether we like it or not very well known. This is what we're talking about is famous and name recognition. Jamie Gillis isn't that well known outside of porn today.

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Babycakes, you just proved my point. Ask any afficionado of "classic porn" and they will tell you Jamie Gillis is held in much higher regard than The Hedgehog. But his name has been conscripted to anonymity. "Star" to a very limited group of people, but the rest of the world does not care.

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And why forget to mention Traci Lords? Because she is far and beyond the most successful one. She's been a working actress and mainstream for 22 years. Took acting lessons and voice and dance lessons after everything broke. It's mostly because of her for kicking down the doors in Hollywood that adult performers are accepted in the mainstream - U.S.

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Filed under "more infamous than famous." If TL started porn when she was supposed to (age 18), she'd just be another footnote on IAFD. You do know about IAFD, right???

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I appreciate your contributions to XPT, you're welcome here. but you're just dead wrong on this one. Maybe we can have angry classic porn sex sometime.

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Maybe we can have angry classic porn sex sometime.

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