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#34192 - 06/26/04 11:51 PM Jill Kelly Question
therock284 Offline
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Registered: 01/14/04
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In keeping with my work, I have found Jill's name.

She is Adrianne Diane Moore-Rios.

She is 33 years old.

Keep em coming to me guys. I am so glad that some of you are not intimidated by what a few say on this board. BTW, some of those have sent me privately names, and blasted me publicly on the board.

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#34193 - 06/27/04 06:33 PM Re: Jill Kelly Question
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Registered: 02/12/04
Posts: 1683
So it only took you three weeks after Luke posted the link to the SEC papers to make this amazing discovery?

We need more guys with these kinds of skills shaking up the industry, man.
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#34194 - 06/27/04 07:39 PM Re: Jill Kelly Question
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Registered: 08/03/03
Posts: 5849
Loc: TX, USA
I missed the SEC pointer. I just tried to read some of that offering filing. I forgot how painful those are to look at: I'd rather watch an Ed Powers video.

It does answer one question: Jill does have an ownership interest in JKP.

However, I'm not sure I understand the offering. It looks like they're bailing out, not trying to raise money for JKP: almost none of the proceeds go to JKP or benefit JKP in any way. I think it's Run For The Hills on this stock. Maybe all Pink Sheet stuff looks like this.
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#34195 - 06/27/04 08:14 PM Re: Jill Kelly Question
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Registered: 02/12/04
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Finance ain't my game, professionally, but I read these things before investing. Best parallel I can think of would be some of the oil industry companies in Texas that are listed on PinkSheets. Most of them are heavily in debt and basically run as family businesses whose value is in connections rather than tangible assets.

Generally speaking, almost all of the stock JKP has is still owned by their (pre-stock offering) investors. This is a horrible situation because one or two people cashing out will dump the value (provided you can find a buyer, which won't be easy), to say nothing of issues like stock dilution. If you look for a business plan in there, you won't really find one. They plan to do what they've been doing which, as you see, hasn't made very much money even if you discount the staggering debts and one-time expenses they've rung up.

JKP essentially did this stock business for the benefit of people who had already invested in the company, not to get more money. It might be attractive to one or two individuals who might not have invested before but might now, since their financial situation has been fully disclosed. But random people buying JKP stock, no, that's not going to happen.

As for Jill's ownership interest, as you can see she draws executive compensation (note that Bob Friedman has deferred his). At the end of the game I suspect that's all she'll get out of it. It's all most people get out of start-ups.
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#34196 - 06/27/04 09:15 PM Re: Jill Kelly Question
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Registered: 05/31/03
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What is so interesting about a porn girl's real name?
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#34197 - 06/28/04 08:48 AM Re: Jill Kelly Question
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Registered: 04/19/04
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What is so interesting about a porn girl's real name?




I still think he wants them for voodoo rituals
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#34198 - 06/28/04 11:27 AM Re: Jill Kelly Question
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Registered: 08/09/06
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So JKP is goin under. What a fuckin shame. Does this mean that Jenna Haze and all those other contract whores will have to do real porn again?

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#34199 - 06/28/04 02:35 PM Re: Jill Kelly Question
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Actually, they won't go under (barring a lot of unforseen other things) unless Friedman calls in his loans and deferred pay. Since JKP is clearly "his" company and Jill's (at best) a minor partner, I don't see that happening (and he probably has a lot more money he can keep "loaning" JKP to keep them afloat in a cash crunch, or at least until his dessicated Mr. Burns persona marries another JKP contract girl).

But I agree, we should begin a liberation struggle to free Jenna Haze from her torturous girl/girl softcore captivity.
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#34200 - 06/28/04 03:54 PM Re: Jill Kelly Question
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Registered: 04/16/04
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Loc: On the Mia Rose bandwagon
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But I agree, we should begin a liberation struggle to free Jenna Haze from her torturous girl/girl softcore captivity.




Maybe TheRock can get Jenna's real name and address and voice our concerns of her career in person.

If porn whores start coming up missing, I think we know where to turn to
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#34201 - 06/29/04 03:48 AM Re: Jill Kelly Question
have2cit Offline
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Registered: 08/09/06
Posts: 9113
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But I agree, we should begin a liberation struggle to free Jenna Haze from her torturous girl/girl softcore captivity.




I believe the fish only phase of her career was prompted by her suitcase pimp. She probably won't be doing anymore boy/girl until he is gone or her drug habit has deteriorated. By then we might not want her back.

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#34202 - 06/29/04 02:12 PM Re: Jill Kelly Question
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Registered: 02/12/04
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This is interesting, something I didn't notice before:

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Employment Agreements

Each of Robert A. Friedland, Adrianne D. Moore and Ronald C. Stone entered into employment agreements with us. The employment agreements have similar terms other than the amount of compensation. Under the employment agreements, we have agreed to pay Ms. Moore and Mr. Friedland each an annual salary of $360,000 and Mr. Stone an annual salary of $240,000, subject to annual increases. The agreements are for five years commencing on September 1, 2003. In the event that we terminate any of these executives for other than good cause, as defined in the agreements, we have to pay the executive’s salary and provide them with benefits for the remainder of the term of the agreement.




So they each receive between $1.2 and $1.8 million spread out over five years, guaranteed, for as long as the company is in existence. On the plus side, that's only a fraction of how much debt they already have.

They might tank sooner than I thought. Free Jenna!
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#34203 - 06/29/04 02:19 PM Re: Jill Kelly Question
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Registered: 02/12/04
Posts: 1683
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I believe the fish only phase of her career was prompted by her suitcase pimp. She probably won't be doing anymore boy/girl until he is gone or her drug habit has deteriorated. By then we might not want her back.




This is true. Yet another musician without a prayer of recording success outside of his home studio has left an indelible mark in the pornography business.

Seriously though, what's weird is that unlike most pornwhores who shoot one or two hardcore scenes at the start of their career, Jenna shot... gads, dozens. This woman's ass has gaped on cue. To go from that to fulltime fish is just unprecedented.
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#34204 - 06/29/04 04:03 PM Re: Jill Kelly Question
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Registered: 08/03/03
Posts: 5849
Loc: TX, USA
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So they each receive between $1.2 and $1.8 million spread out over five years, guaranteed, for as long as the company is in existence. On the plus side, that's only a fraction of how much debt they already have.

They might tank sooner than I thought. Free Jenna!



That's why I wondered what this was all about. Are they positioning themselves such that if they lose the company in one of the lawsuits that they have an employment contract anyway, a sort of golden parachute?

It seems like JKP is about to tank. But, that filing cost a lot of money to prepare. Why spend that money? Who will buy those shares? Why would anyone read this and invest instead of "Run Away! Run Away!"? That filing must have had a use and I have no idea what it was.

Note too that they merged with another company a couple of years ago that apparently had some skeletons in the closet. I'd look at that company and its past - there may be more mischief coming out of that one, especially if some shady characters were involved. Was that ancestor a real company or just a stock fraud?

PS. I only read the first 20 pages or so. Another thing to look for is related-party transactions, especially intellectual-property stuff. That’s a classic way to bleed a corpse and keep some control if you lose the company. For example, does JKP own the copyrights to their videos or are those held by another company? When Popeye’s Chicken declared bankruptcy the creditors found that the rights to the recipes belonged to a company owned by the founder, not to Popeye’s.
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#34205 - 06/30/04 12:45 AM Re: Jill Kelly Question
smiling arab Offline
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Registered: 02/12/04
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That technique - usually involving investing intellectual property with a dummy corporation, and then "licensing" it back to yourself - can be challenged if you're prepared to spend some money (Wollersheim vs. Church of Scientology of California is usually cited. By the way, I'm a lawyer. Bet you're not surprised given my warm and bubbly personality.) But in the case of JKP, I have no idea about any of that.

My curiosity doesn't stretch far enough to bother (especially since Luke will just pinch this anyway, and why should I help him with more content?), but some of those investors have curious backgrounds for investors in a porn company. Google and Lexis, young Luke.

Some of those corporations seem to have no other business except investing in JKP. That'd be a way to conceal ownership, but I don't know how that would fit into a plan to strip assets. The fact that there's less than two dozen total investors and a number of them are either relations or friends of the CEO or have ludicrous corporate names that sound like they were made up in 3 seconds would be another reason to run like hell from this.

The reverse merger was a hell of a lot to go through for nothing (particularly since they seem to have inherited a couple of lawsuits from the previous owners - way to do due dilligence, Bob!) What would be the advantages of it? If you're a company coming off a $9 million debt and your best year seems to have been a profit in the low six figures, it's probably not to attract investment. Beyond that, dunno.
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#34206 - 06/30/04 01:06 AM Re: Jill Kelly Question
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Registered: 08/26/03
Posts: 8160
Loc: Roma, Repubblica Italiana
edited.


Edited by zenman (06/30/04 01:07 AM)
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