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Nothing invalidates a 2257....outside of a "fake" ID....it may put into the question of the model release.


Absolutely factually 100% wrong.

ANd I was speaking in general, not this specific incident. Failure to pay will void "all' related contracts. The model release is necessary to back up the i.d. provided by the perfomer.




Ok...a 2257...is NOT a “contract” in the sense that it is only Two (2) forms of valid ID..NO I wont go into detail of what the US government yesterday, today or tomorrow constitutes is a "valid" ID. That being said...it is just a plain "copy" of the two forms of ID and that is all. So by my definition (we will digress to speaking Clintonesque) once again a 2257 is NOT a contract of any sort....it is the US governments way to verify the actor is of "legal" age to perform in a motion picture that is of adult in nature.

Now associated paperwork and/or forms my accompany the forms listed above but are still yet to be looked on at as “contracts”. I too am speaking in “general” terms as well…..but in theory an actual court of law can’t throw out valid “ID’s” issued by a state or federal governmental agency unless they are proven to be fraudulent this is in direct reference to my “fake” ID’s remark.

Now from a legal standpoint a “model release” is a clear cut legal document and as such my be interpreted not only by the actual judge presiding over the case but by previous case statues (precedents) or even by the state or federal laws that would apply to the actual case. Now again the release may be vague or very clear as to the project and form of payment…this naturally depends on who was the original attorney who wrote up the forms initially. So THAT is why a 2257 is not an actual piece of legal documentation….a 2257 only proves one thing and that is only the age of the participants in the content.

That would be like a model taking you to court…example…(Plaintiff) your honor this guy doesn’t have a model release for me for the content he put up on his website…….(JUDGE) does the defendant have such model release for this model appearing before me in my courtroom? (Defendant) No I don’t your honor but I have all my 2257’s in order……(JUDGE) Ok, so you have copies of her ID’s….well at least she’s not a minor……but I see no evidence of any type of model release…so my ruling is in favor of the plaintiff. So as you can see from the above…you must have BOTH items and a 2257 is not a legal document or yeah you could actually say that the items copied for the paper that is a 2257 are legal documents…since they are valid federal/state ID’s….


Now, any other questions???