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#336323 - 06/06/08 09:51 AM
Let's Talk Soccer: My Euro 2008 Predictions
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Okay since tomorrow kicks off the Euro 2008, and I will be watching (but sadly not betting on because Brett Brando A. isn't in Vegas anymore and B. we aren't speaking to one another) as many matches as possible, I thought I would give my predictions for the tournament.
There are 4 groups with 4 teams each who each play each other once. You get 3 points for a win and 1 point for a tie, and then there are like 25 tie-breakers from there. The top 2 teams from each group move on to the quarterfinals where they play 1 match to make it to the semi-finals and then another match to make the finals, where the final match is played and a champion of Europe is crowned. This tournament happens every 4 years and always comes at the midway point between World Cups (the next World Cup is South Africa 2010 which I WILL be attending).
Okay lets check out the groups:
Group A
Czech Republic Turkey Switzerland Portugal
Group B
Poland Austria Croatia Germany
Group C
Italy Netherlands Romania France
Group D
Spain Russia Greece Sweden
At first glance, Groups C and D are much stronger top to bottom than Group A and B. Which makes it much tougher to predict. In 2004, Greece shocked the world by winning this tournament, so underdogs can and do win this thing from time to time. Switzerland and Austria are hosting the event, so they have a home field advantage to be sure (and they are going to need it).
Group A - I don't think there is anyone in the world who doesn't have Portugal winning this group. They are too skilled to not make it through. The Czech Republic is going through some lineup changes, no Nedved, and no Rosicky really hurts, but my twin brother Jan Koller plays up front for them (he is 6'5, bald, and a bit awkward looking), so I have to like them. Switzerland is an up and coming side who plays excellent defense, which worked very well for the Greeks in 2004. Turkey will be outclassed here I think, they just don't have the depth to compete. My prediction is Portugal winning it and the Czech Republic going through as well.
Group B - This is my least favorite group. It should be called the Blue Collar Group, none of these teams play with any flair or passion. Poland v. Germany is always an entertaining contest however, but let's be honest, the Germans are the far superior side in this group. If they falter, it will be because Croatia stepped up and played their asses off. Croatia beat England in England, so they have some talent, but on the world stage, they sometimes seem to fall short. I just don't see Austria mounting any sort of threat, nor do I think Poland has the offense to go through. Germany will win this group and Croatia will go through as well.
Group C - This is a tough one to call. Let's eliminate Romania right now, they had the misfortune to be thrown to the wolves here. France, Italy, and the Netherlands....are you kidding me? Injuries will play a key role in this group....Cannavaro is out for Italy (who are also the defending World Cup Champions), Viera is out for France, and Babel is out for the Dutch. I think Italy will move on because of their firepower up front, De Natali, Toni, and the others will score too many goals. The battle for second will be epic for sure. The French are probably the underdogs, but again the Dutch always seem to fall short in pressure matches. I know that all of my English friends will be aghast, but I am going with the French here to move forward. I think the veteran lineup comes through in the clutch. One last thing, if you get a chance to watch France, Franck Ribery is the most intriguing dude on the pitch. He has a HUGE scar that runs all the way around his head and he is so fucking fast, its almost dizzying. Trust me, you will be fixated on him when they play.
Group D - This is the most interesting group to watch in my opinion. None of these teams is the clear-cut favorite and all of them have legitimate shots to go through. This group is going to be a fucking war when it's all said and done. Greece are the reigning champions of this tournament, but since then they haven't come close to recreating their previous glory. But these tournaments always bring out the best in sides, so who knows. I have always been a huge fan of Sweden, their best player is one of my favorites, Zlatan Ibrahimovic. He is a lanky, 6'7 forward, who is unbelievably skilled. The Swedes are strong and durable, but seem to lack a lot of overall speed I think. Russia is the wild card of the group, they haven't been very strong historically, but the infusion of money into their domestic league saw Zenit St. Petersburg win the UEFA cup. I think a lot of betting men will be backing Russia as the dark horse to go through in this group. Spain is another historically underachieving side. But they always play well in the group stages and then stink up the join in the knock-out rounds. Obviously they have Fernando Torres, who is so fast and so skilled, I think Spain puts it together in this group. I like Spain to win it and Sweden to be the runners-up.
Quarterfinals
Portugal vs. Croatia - I don't see Croatia winning this match, they simply don't have the goal scoring ability up front to match up with Ronaldo and the Portugese midfielders
Germany vs. Czech Republic - This will be a classic pride match, lots of physical play and yellow cards. I would like to say the Czech Rep. can pull off the upset, but let's be realistic...Germany is too strong.
Italy vs. Sweden - Too big a mismatch for Sweden to overcome. Italy rolls through them with little problem.
Spain vs. France - Again, I think France has the experience to make life difficult for the Spanish. France has a knack for disrupting their opponent's flow, and bogs the game down a bit. I like France in the upset here.
Semi-Finals
Portugal vs. Germany - I love Germany here, I think their experience and strength negates the athleticism of the Portugese. It might come down to penalty kicks, but I still like the Germans here.
Italy vs. France - the ride ends for the French here. They played well, but the Italians have too much class and skill for them.
Finals
Germany vs. Italy - Wow, what a classic European matchup! This match will have everything you could want in a final. Again, I find it almost impossible to see a weakness in the Italian side. The age of Lehmann could be a factor in this match, and I really think the Italians take it.
There you go...my prediction for the Euro 2008 is Italy.
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#336324 - 06/06/08 10:08 AM
Re: Let's Talk Soccer: My Euro 2008 Predictions
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Porn Jesus
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How come teams like England and Ireland aren't there? They were at the last World Cup, no? Is there qualifying or something? And, teams like Romania beat them out?
Is this on TV?
I actually like to watch "important" soccer on spanish television. I don't really need the commentary - which I find annoying anyway. The announcers are so much more animated and I love the "GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOAL!!!!!!" howls!
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#336325 - 06/06/08 10:36 AM
Re: Let's Talk Soccer: My Euro 2008 Predictions
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Max Hardcore Prison Bitch
Registered: 12/24/06
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How come teams like England and Ireland aren't there? They were at the last World Cup, no? Is there qualifying or something? And, teams like Romania beat them out?
Yes, of course there was qualifying, and England (their current team sucks anyway!) and Ireland didn't qualify. More background info about UEFA Euro 2008: Click!
BTW, don't underestimate Romania (their best player Adrian Mutu played a great season in Florence this year!) On a good day they can beat anyone, but on a bad day they can play terrifyingly awful.
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#336326 - 06/06/08 10:56 AM
Re: Let's Talk Soccer: My Euro 2008 Predictions
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Here are my predictions:
Group A
1. Portugal
2. Switzerland
Group B
1. Germany
2. Poland
Group C
1. Italy
2. France
Group D
1. Spain
2. Sweden
Quarter-finals:
Portugal - Poland
Winner: Poland
Germany - Switzerland
Winner: Germany
Italy - Sweden
Winner: Italy
Spain - France
Winner: France
Semi-finals:
Portugal - Germany
Winner: Portugal
Italy - France
Winner: Italy
Final:
Portugal - Italy
Winner: Portugal
More info for the curious ones: UEFA Euro 2008 Official Site
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#336328 - 06/06/08 12:08 PM
Re: Let's Talk Soccer: My Euro 2008 Predictions
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I have always been a huge fan of Sweden,
Really? Can't think why...
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#336329 - 06/06/08 01:24 PM
Re: Let's Talk Soccer: My Euro 2008 Predictions
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Winners:
Group A: Portugal.
Group B: Germany
Group C: Netherlands or France.
Group D: España
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#336330 - 06/06/08 03:40 PM
Re: Let's Talk Soccer: My Euro 2008 Predictions
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Group A 1. Czech Republic 2. Portugal
Group B 1. Germany 2. Poland
Group C 1. Italy 2. France
Group D 1. Spain 2. Russia
Semi-finals Germany - Czech Republic & Italy - France
Final Germany - Italy --> Italy wins.
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#336332 - 06/06/08 04:36 PM
Re: Let's Talk Soccer: My Euro 2008 Predictions
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It's definitely not as major as the World Cup, Fatman, but there will be some celebration when Italy wins. Group A 1. Portugal 2. Switzerland Group B 1. Germany 2. Croatia Group C 1. Italy 2. Netherlands Group D 1. Spain 2. Russia Quarter-finals: Portugal - Croatia Winner: Portugal Germany - Switzerland Winner: Germany Italy - Russia Winner: Italy Spain - Netherlands Winner: Netherlands Semi-finals: Portugal - Germany Winner: Portugal Italy - Netherlands Winner: Italy Final: Portugal - Italy Winner: Italy
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#336333 - 06/06/08 04:40 PM
Re: Let's Talk Soccer: My Euro 2008 Predictions
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Charlie, trust me on this:
The Netherlands are not going to beat Spain. No way. I don't even think they will qualify for the quarter finals.
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#336334 - 06/06/08 04:41 PM
Re: Let's Talk Soccer: My Euro 2008 Predictions
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This tournament happens every 4 years and always comes at the midway point between World Cups (the next World Cup is South Africa 2010 which I WILL be attending).
Given the way things are going over there, Christian, we might be watching those matches in L.A. and New York.
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#336335 - 06/06/08 04:43 PM
Re: Let's Talk Soccer: My Euro 2008 Predictions
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As much as I love Italy, their World Cup win was solely based on luck. I don't know what makes you guys think they will win the Euro Cup (unless there is something about Donadoni I don't know). They haven't been on form since... 94 or 96. If anything I'd have my money on Portugal or the Krauts.
The French could probably have a chance if Carla Bruni promised Sarkozy an interesting romp in the Champagne room.
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#336336 - 06/06/08 04:43 PM
Re: Let's Talk Soccer: My Euro 2008 Predictions
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Charlie, trust me on this:
The Netherlands are not going to beat Spain. No way. I don't even think they will qualify for the quarter finals.
Espana=MASSIVE COLLAPSE in Inglese, freestylah
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#336337 - 06/06/08 07:05 PM
Re: Let's Talk Soccer: My Euro 2008 Predictions
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Group A Portugal Czech Republic
Group B Germany Poland
Group C Italy Netherlands
Group D Spain Sweden
Portugal Poland - Portugal Germany Czech Republic - Czech Republic (Upset special) Italy Sweden - Italy Netherlands Spain - Spain
Semis: Portugal Czech Republic - Portugal Italy Spain - Spain
Final: Portugal Spain - Spain
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#336338 - 06/06/08 11:10 PM
Re: Let's Talk Soccer: My Euro 2008 Predictions
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I predict a bunch of fruity Euro's flopping when a breeze touches them, cherry bombs and stabbings in the crowd, hot ass Swedish bitches with painted-on jerseys, and 9 goals from Cristiano Ronaldo.
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#336341 - 06/06/08 11:48 PM
Re: Let's Talk Soccer: My Euro 2008 Predictions
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No, this egregious flopping in the NBA came over on the boat with the influx of fruity Euro ballers the last few years. Ginobili counts as a Euro too, just 'cause he's not from here.
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#336344 - 06/07/08 04:58 AM
Re: Let's Talk Soccer: My Euro 2008 Predictions
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hot ass Swedish bitches with painted-on jerseys, and 9 goals from Cristiano Ronaldo.
If you like blondes, watch the crowd shots during any Holland or Czech Republic game...serious babes. I'm not sure if the weather in Austria and Switzerland will lend itself to bikini tops though...although it will more than likely guarantee pokies!
My tip for top scorer? Milan Baros of the Czech Republic...he's been woefully inept all year, so the law of averages says he has to come good at some point. Plus Jan Koller, his strike partner, is retiring from international football after this tournament, so no doubt he will be aiming to go out on a high.
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#336346 - 06/07/08 10:26 AM
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My point is that The Netherlands is not the great team everyone expects it to be. Bad defenders and the best midfielders are left at home.
Is Ruud Van Nistelroy still kickin' it? That guy was dope, but I haven't seen him since he left the EPL.
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#336347 - 06/07/08 11:51 AM
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Van Nistelrooy had a great season at Real Madrid, but I'm not too happy with him in the national team. But still one of the best around, without a doubt. And this might become the championship where he will excel.
But in order to win, you have to score more goals than you concede....
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#336348 - 06/07/08 12:21 PM
Re: Let's Talk Soccer: My Euro 2008 Predictions
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Porn Jesus
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Well ... the Swiss were clumsy and lost.
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#336349 - 06/07/08 01:38 PM
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Portugal scores 2nd goal in extra time ... so Turkey will lose this one ...
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#336350 - 06/07/08 02:17 PM
Re: Let's Talk Soccer: My Euro 2008 Predictions
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Czechs move thru against unlucky Swiss. Too bad about Frei.
Portugal cruises past Turkey.
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#336351 - 06/08/08 09:14 AM
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Interesting penalty call against Austria ...
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#336354 - 06/08/08 10:45 AM
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Croatia is just playing the shitty game, one touch and down. Austria is trying very hard but haven't shown the skill to finish it off.
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#336356 - 06/09/08 02:16 PM
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Wow, when freestylah regains some semblance of sobriety/consciousness/coherence/calmness (*delete as applicable) after the Italy/Netherlands game, I'm sure he'll have to admit that the Oranje did themselves proud against the reigning World Champions. Sneijder's goal was a classic... France vs. Romania, on the other hand...
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#336357 - 06/09/08 04:51 PM
Re: Let's Talk Soccer: My Euro 2008 Predictions
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I LOVED the Netherlands/Italy game!! It was quite exciting!! So far I've watched all the games except for most of the Germany game. This was the first one where the talent was evident. Nice!
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#336360 - 06/10/08 12:28 PM
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Wow, when freestylah regains some semblance of sobriety/consciousness/coherence/calmness (*delete as applicable) after the Italy/Netherlands game, I'm sure he'll have to admit that the Oranje did themselves proud against the reigning World Champions. Sneijder's goal was a classic...
As I don't drink, I'll stay with coherence. Watched at a friends' and returned home late. It was indeed a great match from Holland. Everything went as it was (is) supposed to go. Coach Van Basten (some will remember his magic goal against Soviet Union in 1988) has taken a lot of stick the last 4 years. Nobody understood his selection of players, he promised attractive play and it was boring with bad results.
And now this! A few surprising choices in the starting line-up, but all three players (De Jong, Engelaar & Bouhlarouz) are capable of playing at this level. The first ten minutes I was NOT amused by how our left side played, especially defended. After that it went better and better. Second goal was a beauty. The guy who rescued at our goal line, Van Bronckhorst, delivered the pass that Kuyt headed towards Sneijder. I knew they are capable of playing like this, but it has been a few years ago that it was actually this good. Most impressed by the defending four. Italy had 1.5 chance at a goal. If it stays like this, who knows, we might be in for a surprise.
The rest of the tournament is entertaining as well. I watch approx. one match per day and I think Germany and Spain look very solid. If Spain can keep this form after the first round...... (I know: collapse).
The games must go on!
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#336361 - 06/12/08 12:15 PM
Re: Let's Talk Soccer: My Euro 2008 Predictions
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Max Hardcore Prison Bitch
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Germans look like shit and loose accordingly.
Portugal-Germany in the next round would be nice.
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#336362 - 06/12/08 12:50 PM
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Germans look like shit and loose accordingly.
Portugal-Germany in the next round would be nice.
The Germans took it on the chin. Good times. Hope Portugal slices and dices them.
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#336363 - 06/13/08 02:17 PM
Re: Let's Talk Soccer: My Euro 2008 Predictions
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Porn Jesus
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This is how it's done:
The Netherlands 4 - France 1
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#336364 - 06/13/08 02:22 PM
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Max Hardcore Prison Bitch
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So many players to hate on both teams, but I did enjoy France getting thumped.
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#336365 - 06/13/08 02:50 PM
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Porn Jesus
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Could you name a few from the Dutch squad? Just for my entertainment. Thanks.
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#336366 - 06/13/08 10:36 PM
Re: Let's Talk Soccer: My Euro 2008 Predictions
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Max Hardcore Prison Bitch
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van Nistelrooy, Kuyt, van Persie, Robben, ...
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#336367 - 06/13/08 10:57 PM
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I just wish the people who predicted Italy as the winner would explain to me how they reached this conclusion.
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#336368 - 06/14/08 02:26 AM
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I have no explanation to offer, Loop. I really thought that they could/would do better. All players are more than capable of playing at this level and for some reason it just won't work. A huge miscalculation on my part.
I don't know what other people's reasons were.
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