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Then you describe yourself as LIBERTARIAN To deny people the right to have children is is the grossest human rights violation there is.


How can you possibly reconcile those two positions. You cant tell the U.S. government to stay out of your bedroom, and at the same time INSIST that other governments do exactly that before they recieve your money.

Or is it that your true position is more like, I want everyhing i want and i deserve evverything I want, and to hell with everyone else because I want it.

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No. If your rights require financial subsidy it's not your "right". If it requires my money for you to express your "rights", I should get a say in your actions.

You want 50 kids and it won't cost me a dime? Great!

If you cannot afford a lifestyle choice, why should I be required to subsidize it?

I don't think you have the right to have children if you cannot support them. Sorry. Once again, that's someone else's "right" that compels for my compliance. It interferes in my Life.

Their "right" directly costs me money I'd rather spend elsewhere. That's sticking their hand directly into my pocket to pay for their choices.

If you can't afford a kid and you elect to have one anyway, I can choose not to help you. If others feel that you should, they set up foundations, put up their money and leave me out.

Max isn't asking for federal subsidy or tax breaks to make his porn. The federal government should not be under any obligation to provide him with money to pursue his "art". They should not pay for DVDs for people who want to watch his porn.

If such things existed, in my opinion opponents of this lifestyle choice could rightfully say "I don't want to pay for that".


Can you understand the difference, at long last?




I said I was Libertarian on free speech. As was evidenced in the array of canidates I've supported, my views are not contrained to any one ideology.

Having kids isn't speech or art or expression.

I think that if developing countries controlled their population, they would get out of poverty faster. At this rate, they'll never get out of poverty. Controlling population is being mature and responsible.

Most middle-class Americans limit the number of children to what they can afford. There's no reason that cannot happen in the third world.


EDIT: btw, I'm not FORCING them to stop having kids. I'm just not going to pay for them. They can still "express themselves" and have as many as they want ... WITHOUT MY MONEY.

They can do what they want ...
I can do what I want ...

Perfect.