...by the price of gas?
It's $4.31 a gallon for regular where I live (Westchester Co. NY) and seems to go up every day now.
The last time I got gas, it cost me $75.00 to fill up!
Plus fucking cigarettes are now $7.00 a pack thanks to the new excise tax.
Where is this shit going to end?

yup mentioned it in another thread- it blows and the people who aren't feeling it yet soon will because the people who do all their manual labor won't be or will need more cash to do it then America will be in agreement that something needs to be done. Either that or OBAMA will solve it

120 bucks to fill up my Handivan, but its gonna have to reach 200 before I really bitch about it. 3.5 billion people in India and China are to blame. I dont have that kind of time.

We could use a man like Paul Volker right about now.

Why post about the price of gas anymore? Americans won't do shit about it. It's too inconvenient for them...

its 3.81 a gallon here
i checked eery place on the wya to work yestrday and nothing is cheaper than that
it sucks when you drive a big old chevy van from the seventies

Cigs are now 8 plus tax here.

^^$4.25 a pack. i should move to new york so i can quit smoking.

$34 a carton in Portland.

Drivers a-gassed at $5 full-serve

The price of fuel at some city pumps soared above $5 a gallon Thursday, leaving beleaguered drivers like Angel Villnueva of the Bronx fretting over how high it might go.

"What are you doing?" Villnueva screamed at an attendant changing the price of full-service supreme to $5.09 a gallon on the sign in front of the Mobil station at W. 30th St. and 11th Ave. in Manhattan.

"It's tougher when you see it being done in your face," said the 31-year-old auto mechanic. "They're supposed to change prices weekly, right? Not every day."

When Brooklyn bartender Max Gardener, 24, noticed the lofty price for full-service supreme, he got back into his car and swung it around to the self-serve side.

"I'm pumping my own," Gardener said. "I won't be surprised to see $5 on this side soon." The price for regular statewide has climbed to an average of $4.22 a gallon, AAA said.

In the city, regular was going for as high as $4.70 a gallon at the Lukoil station on Bruckner Blvd. in the Bronx, according to the Web site Newyorkgasprices.com.

"This is an exaggeration!" said taxi driver Jean Edwards, 45, staring in disbelief at the $5.09-a-gallon price for full-service supreme at the Mobil station on W. 14th St. and 10th Ave.

"You don't make money anymore," the cabbie griped. "And you can't raise the prices on customers. It's illegal. It's too much."

Pointing to her 2006 Subaru, Isabel Rubio, 51, said, "This has to go."

"We have to go green," said Rubio, as she fueled her car. "It's not just gas prices. It affects all other prices - food, milk, everything - and makes it harder to get by."

Restaurant waiter Nick Watson, 26, of Queens bought a Kawasaki motorcycle to cope with the gas crisis.

"It used to be $5, then $6, then $7 to fill the tank," Watson said as he filled up at the W. 14th St. Mobil. "Now it's $8.43, but it still beats driving a car."

Meanwhile, Exxon Mobil Corp., which earned nearly $41 billion last year, announced plans Thursday to sell its 2,200 company-owned gas stations, saying they aren't profitable enough.

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I never thought I'd say it, but the government really needs to get involved in this shit. These daily increases in gas prices are going to cause some MAJOR problems VERY soon...we're on our way to a fucking disaster. Imagine when it's TEN BUCKS. Someone needs to stop these greedy motherfuckers before it's too late.

Dennis Kucinich was on the O'Reily show the other night and they both agreed that the problem now is traders manipulating the price of oil. I totally agree with that and have been saying it for months. The real price of oil based on supply and demand is probably about $50-65 dollars a barrel.

We are getting fucked and somebody is getting off of it. This is what government is for. To protect the people.
We don't need windfall taxes. Just stop the gouging.

So what's gonna be done? I guaran-fucking-tee you the answer is : nothing. People would rather listen to some bullshit about how Obama's a terrorist and then settle in and watch The Hills. I'm not trying to minimize how this affects people day-to-day, but people haven't done shit about it, other than gripe...

Enema Water. That is the answer. Make cars run on the enema water and teh problems will be solved. Priced only at $2.99/gallon and Premium Enema Water for $3.19/gallon and the Sheik's Reserve Enema Water (now with extra teen crap!!!) for $3.39/gallon will definatly help the nation in the time of need.

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Dennis Kucinich was on the O'Reily show the other night and they both agreed that the problem now is traders manipulating the price of oil. I totally agree with that and have been saying it for months. The real price of oil based on supply and demand is probably about $50-65 dollars a barrel.

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Well, well, it seems we have another 'insider' on board. May I ask where you 'have been saying it'? Because I sure didn't notice it.

Oh, and I'll phone OPEC to tell them that the oil price is USD 50-65 per barrel.

Yesterday, I paid USD 9.42/gallon.

Per Maxim magazine, along with milk and bottled water, gasoline is still one of the cheapest fluids you can buy.

In comparison:
HP black printer ink: $2700 per gallon
Chateau Rothschild: $4500 per gallon
Chanel #5 perfume: $48,500 per gallon
Snakebite Antivenom Serum: $567,000 per gallon

Still doesn't make it any easier to pay $100 every time I pull into the gas station.

Well, let's see:

HP printer ink: I don't have a HP printer, I have an Epson
Chateau Whatever: I don't drink alcohol
Chanel 5 : I'm a man who doesn't buy perfume
Snakebite Serum: There are no snakes where I live

For me, gasoline is the most expensice fluid.

In Vancouver gas is around $1.48 a liter which is roughly equal to $5.60/gallon

it still hovering at $3.99 here

Just paid $4.63 in San Diego. I saw another station posting $4.79.

Bush went on the offensive today asking for off shore drilling. Hmmmm, didn't Jeb Bush kill off shore drilling in Florida? They couldn't be playing politics here could they? Naaaah.

I heard a report that people in San Diego are driving into TJ to get gas. Since the Mexican Government subsidizes fuel costs, it's hovering around $2.60 a gallon (less if you pay in pesos).

You'd better post him a link or else he'll never find that report.

Those people are a little nuts. It's a two hour border wait on the way back and it's shitty gas. Mexican gas stations are notorious for skimming the gas. They started issuing these Holograms on pumps to make sure they were valid. That just became another scam.

Jim, I did find this

$4.09 in western PA now

And here's another thing that we'll never see in the U.S., an air powered car.....


http://www.popularmechanics.com/automotive/new_cars/4217016.html
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QmqpGZv0YT4

So again I say, anyone that doesn't think we aren't being anally raped with a baseball bat on a daily basis by the oil and auto industries must either have their heads in the sand or own major stock in these industries.

well, the article hints that the problem is it's held together by glue which is probably a bit of a safety issue. sounds cool though. the weight they would have to add to make it safe enough here probably makes the engine/power source ineffective. honda is leasing these zero emission cars in Cali even before the air powered glue car of India.


Honda

glue? fucking GLUE? i'll take my big ass, gas guzzling chrysler, fuck all you fucking democrats and your fucking save the world bullshit! glue, my ass.

Chill Gigi, it's not Elmer's

i'm just sayin

Here's my theory: With Gas in Connecticut being second only to California, 17-19 year old dudes taking some hot chick out on a date is now looking at such a huge investment (relative to his earnings and cash) to drive the little bitches around, the pressure to actually FUCK the chick and get a return on his investment is now overwhelming. If the chick(s) even remotely hesitate to put out and/or balk at blowing the dude(s) and gobbling cum, the overanxious males will force themsleves on the poor dumb bitches, thus increasing the incidence of RAPE. The question(s) become, "Will these rapes go unreported? Will Methamphetamine be blamed instead of Gas Price Inflationary Sexual Pressure? Will THE Pornography be wrongly scapegoated? What would Gia Jerkenz do if a dude forced himself on her in his ride in the name of exorbitant fuel costs? What would Gigi do if a bear said "Wick my Wuv Pump Now biatch! Cuz the Fuel Pump is bweeding me dwy!" Is Ceara Lunch demanding Gas Cards from her loser nation in exchange for her poop or Toenails or whatever? Would Holly Randall rather have Regular Unleaded instead of a plate full of Sausages? How long bewfore porn whores start sucking Fuel Nozzles in a symbolic depiction of selling their souls for $$$$

Da Burg shudders <SHUDDER>

Problem solved, America!

http://youtube.com/watch?v=miE1kZz7XLw

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=90041682

"Investors, of course, are always looking for a place to make money. But last year, Williams says, there were also the subprime housing market and stock market to invest in. Oil was one option among many. Now, it looks like the only option.

"But here's the problem that's created: You got that good idea because you saw oil going up and nothing up — so did a whole bunch of other people," Williams says. "What happens when a bunch of people want something they didn't want before? The price goes up."

This is called "speculative investment." People buy oil not because they want oil, but because they are speculating that oil will keep going up.

Now, here's what's interesting: The weaker the dollar, the more this happens. Investors turn away from U.S. investments — Apple computer or treasury bonds, for example —because the dollar keeps losing value. They don't want dollars. That makes oil even more attractive, which sends the price of oil higher. That, in turn, weakens the U.S. economy, which sends the dollar lower."

It's the whole free market versus life's essentials argument.

I am reminded of those Enron trader phone calls:

"In the now infamous Grandma Millie exchange, recorded on Nov. 30, 2000, two traders, identified as Kevin and Bob, discuss demands by California officials that electricity-generating companies and traders pay refunds for price-gouging. They also refer to the disputed presidential election, which was as yet undecided.

Kevin: So the rumor's true? They're [expletive] takin' all the money back from you guys? All those money you guys stole from those poor grandmothers in California?

Bob: Yeah, Grandma Millie, man. But she's the one who couldn't figure out how to [expletive] vote on the butterfly ballot.

Kevin: Yeah, now she wants her [expletive] money back for all the power you've charged for [expletive] $250 a megawatt hour.

Bob: You know -- you know -- you know, Grandma Millie, she's the one that Al Gore's fightin' for, you know?

Later in the same conversation, Kevin and Bob express little sympathy for Californians.

Kevin: Oh, best thing that could happen is [expletive] an earthquake, let that thing float out to the Pacific and put 'em [expletive] candles.

Bob: I know. Those guys -- just cut 'em off.

Kevin: They're so [expletive] and they're so like totally -- --

Bob: They are so [expletive]."

Interesting how these jackals throw Al Gore into the mix...

New shocker from Con Ed: Forget 13% hike, now it's 22% thanks to soaring oil...

Published on Tuesday, May 3, 2005 by CommonDreams.org

Carter Tried To Stop Bush's Energy Disasters - 28 Years Ago
by Thom Hartmann

In his recent news conference, George Bush Jr. suggested that our nation's "problem" with high gasoline prices was caused by the lack of a national energy policy, and tried to blame it all on Bill Clinton. First, Junior said, "This is a problem that's been a long time in coming. We haven't had an energy policy in this country."
This was followed by, "That's exactly what I've been saying to the American people -- 10 years ago if we'd had an energy strategy, we would be able to diversify away from foreign dependence. And -- but we haven't done that. And now we find ourselves in the fix we're in." As is so often the case, Bush was lying.
Consider President Jimmy Carter's April 18, 1977 speech. Since it was given nearly three decades ago, when many of the reporters in Bush's White House were children, it's understandable that they don't remember it. But it's inexcusable that Bush and the mainstream media (which, after all, has the ability to do research) would completely ignore it. It was the speech that established the strategic petroleum reserve, birthed the modern solar power industry, led to the insulation of millions of American homes, and established America's first national energy policy. "With the exception of preventing war," said Jimmy Carter, a man of peace, "this is the greatest challenge our country will face during our lifetimes."
He added: "It is a problem we will not solve in the next few years, and it is likely to get progressively worse through the rest of this century. "We must not be selfish or timid if we hope to have a decent world for our children and grandchildren.
"We simply must balance our demand for energy with our rapidly shrinking resources. By acting now, we can control our future instead of letting the future control us." Carter bluntly pointed out that: "The most important thing about these proposals is that the alternative may be a national catastrophe. Further delay can affect our strength and our power as a nation." He called the new energy policy he was proposing, "[T]he 'moral equivalent of war' -- except that we will be uniting our efforts to build and not destroy."
When Carter had become president three months earlier, the nation was still recovering from the "oil shock" of the 1973 Arab oil embargo, and scientists were realizing our nation was just then hitting the point of domestic peak oil production predicted more than a decade earlier by scientist M. King Hubbert. (The rest of the world is hitting the Hubbert Peak right now.) As Carter noted in his speech, "The oil and natural gas we rely on for 75 percent of our energy are running out. In spite of increased effort, domestic production has been dropping steadily at about six percent a year. Imports have doubled in the last five years. Our nation's independence of economic and political action is becoming increasingly constrained." Hubbert had predicted that the peak of oil production for the USA would come in the 1970s, and it did, hitting us with a shock.
"The world has not prepared for the future," said Jimmy Carter. "During the 1950s, people used twice as much oil as during the 1940s. During the 1960s, we used twice as much as during the 1950s. And in each of those decades, more oil was consumed than in all of mankind's previous history." Hubbert said we must begin to conserve. Carter agreed.
"Ours is the most wasteful nation on earth," he said, a point that is still true. "We waste more energy than we import. With about the same standard of living, we use twice as much energy per person as do other countries like Germany, Japan and Sweden." Carter directly challenged the fossil fuel and automobile industries. "One choice," he said, "is to continue doing what we have been doing before. We can drift along for a few more years. "Our consumption of oil would keep going up every year. Our cars would continue to be too large and inefficient. Three-quarters of them would continue to carry only one person -- the driver -- while our public transportation system continues to decline. We can delay insulating our houses, and they will continue to lose about 50 percent of their heat in waste. "We can continue using scarce oil and natural gas to generate electricity, and continue wasting two-thirds of their fuel value in the process."
But that would be unpatriotic, anti-American, and essentially wrong. Who but a traitor sold out to special interests, or an idiot, would countenance such insanity?
The year 1977 was a turning point for America. If we didn't make clear and rapid progress, we would face painful times ahead. The Saudis would have their fingers around our necks. We'd face war in the Middle East to secure future oil supplies. "Now we have a choice," Carter said. "But if we wait, we will live in fear of embargoes. We could endanger our freedom as a sovereign nation to act in foreign affairs."
Failure to act in the 1970s and 1980s would inevitably lead to a time when the only way to maintain our lifestyle would be to rape our planet and seize control of oil-rich nations in the Middle East. If we didn't begin to develop alternatives like solar power, and dramatically reduce our consumption of fossil fuels, then, Carter said, even our cherished personal freedoms would be at risk. If we continued to simply follow past policies that enriched the oil industry and the Saudis, instead of becoming energy independent, Carter said, "We will feel mounting pressure to plunder the environment."
If we failed to develop alternative sources of renewable energy and conserve what we have, the alternative could be nasty. As Carter pointed out: "We will have a crash program to build more nuclear plants, strip-mine and burn more coal, and drill more offshore wells than we will need if we begin to conserve now. Inflation will soar, production will go down, people will lose their jobs. Intense competition will build up among nations and among the different regions within our own country. "If we fail to act soon, we will face an economic, social and political crisis that will threaten our free institutions."
Carter's speech drew a strong reaction from the Saudis and the oil industry. Think tanks soon emerged - many whose names are today familiar - to suggest there was really no energy problem, and they led the charge to establish a permanent right-wing media in the US. Within two years, Saudi citizen and oil baron Salem bin Laden's sole US representative, James Bath, would funnel cash into the failing business of the son of the CIA's former director, political up-and-comer George H. W. Bush. With that money from the representative of Osama Bin Laden's half-brother, George Bush Jr. was able to keep afloat his Arbusto ("shrub" in Spanish) Oil Company. And he would be in the pocket of the bin Laden and Saudi interests for the rest of his life. But Carter was incorruptible.
"We can be sure that all the special interest groups in the country will attack the part of this plan that affects them directly," he said. "They will say that sacrifice is fine, as long as other people do it, but that their sacrifice is unreasonable, or unfair, or harmful to the country. If they succeed, then the burden on the ordinary citizen, who is not organized into an interest group, would be crushing." But that would be wrong. It would be un-American. It would lead to future oil shocks, and the probable death of American soldiers in Middle Eastern oil wars. Instead of caving in to the Saudis and the oil industry, Carter said: "There should be only one test for this program: whether it will help our country."
Two years later, as the bin Laden family's sole US representative was bailing out George Bush Junior's failing oil business, Jimmy Carter gave another speech on energy, further refining his national energy policy. He had already started the national strategic petroleum reserve, birthed the gasohol and solar power industries, and helped insulate millions of homes and offices. But he wanted to go a step further. "I am tonight setting a clear goal for the energy policy of the United States," Carter said on July 15, 1979. "Beginning this moment, this nation will never use more foreign oil than we did in 1977 -- never. From now on, every new addition to our demand for energy will be met from our own production and our own conservation. The generation-long growth in our dependence on foreign oil will be stopped dead in its tracks right now and then reversed as we move through the 1980s..." In addition, we needed to immediately begin to develop a long-range strategy to move beyond fossil fuel.
Therefore, Carter said, "I will soon submit legislation to Congress calling for the creation of this nation's first solar bank, which will help us achieve the crucial goal of 20 percent of our energy coming from solar power by the year 2000." But then came the Iran/Contra October Surprise, when the Reagan/Bush campaign allegedly promised the oil-rich mullahs of Iran that they'd sell them missiles and other weapons if only they'd keep our hostages until after the 1980 Carter/Reagan presidential election campaign was over. The result was that Carter, who had been leading in the polls over Reagan/Bush, steadily dropped in popularity as the hostage crisis dragged out, and lost the election. The hostages were released the very minute that Reagan put his hand on the Bible to take his oath of office. The hostages freed, the Reagan/Bush administration quickly began illegally delivering missiles to Iran.
And Ronald Reagan's first official acts of office included removing Jimmy Carter's solar panels from the roof of the White House, and reversing most of Carter's conservation and alternative energy policies.
Today, despite the best efforts of the Bushies, the bin Ladens, and the rest of the oil industry, Carter's few surviving initiatives have borne fruit.
It is now more economical to build power generating stations using wind than using coal, oil, gas, or nuclear. When amortized over the life of a typical mortgage, installing solar power in a house in most parts of the US is cheaper than drawing power from the grid. (Shell and British Petroleum are among the world's largest manufacturers of solar photovoltaic panels, which can now even be used as roofing shingles.) And hybrid cars that get 50-70 miles to the gallon are increasingly commonplace on our nation's highways. Instead of taking a strong stand to make America energy independent, Bush kisses a Saudi crown prince, then holds hands with him as they walk into Bush's hobby ranch in Texas. Our young men and women are daily dying in Iraq - a country with the world's second largest store of underground oil. And we live in fear that another 15 Saudis may hijack more planes to fly into our nation's capitol or into nuclear power plants.
Meanwhile, Bush brings us an energy bill that includes eight billion dollars in welfare payments to the oil business, just as the nation's oil companies report the highest profits in the entire history of the industry. Americans struggle to pay for gasoline, while the Bush administration refuses to increase fleet efficiency standards, stop the $100,000 tax break for buying Hummers, or maintain and build Amtrak. George Bush Jr. is arguably right that gas prices are spiking because we don't have an energy policy. But instead of blaming Clinton, he should be pointing to the Reagan/Bush administration, and to his own abysmal failures over the past four years.

Thom Hartmann's bestselling book on peak oil is titled "The Last Hours of Ancient Sunlight, published by Random House/Three Rivers Press. His articles archive is at www.thomhartmann.com/commondreams.shtml.

How does the rising cost of oil will affect the porn industry?

I noticed there were way more bukkake boys carpooling last month than a few months back.