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#334463 - 05/28/08 06:04 PM The Max Hardcore Obscenity Trial: Day 2
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From AVN.com

The Max Hardcore Obscenity Trial: Day 2
Judge reconsiders ruling on showing excerpts of charged Max movies

By: Mark Kernes

Posted: 05/28/2008

TAMPA - It was at the very end of the day's proceedings that Judge
Susan C. Bucklew dropped her bombshell.

The jury had just been excused after watching the first 41 minutes of
Max Extreme 20, one of the five DVDs charged in the government's 10-
count obscenity indictment against Max Hardcore and his company, Max
World Entertainment.

"I'm thinking of reconsidering my earlier ruling," the judge said,
after just having watched Catalina and Taylor Rain sucking Max's cock,
deep-throating it, getting fucked in the ass and being peed upon.

"I think it would be very difficult for the jury to sit through five
of these," she opined, adding that she was considering reneging on her
statement at the start of the proceedings today, that she would urge
the prosecution to play all of the charged videos in their entirety.

In so stating, the judge said that she was mindful of the Miller
test's requirement that the videos in question be "taken as a whole,"
and she said that she thought it would be a bad idea for the
prosecution to play just excerpts from the videos, and then have the
defense play those same videos in their entirety, because she felt the
jury should not have to sit through playing of any of the material
twice.

Prosecutor Lisamarie Freitas argued that playing the entire movies
would be repetitive, since similar sex acts appear throughout the
material, and renewed her offer to let the defense play whatever
footage on the disks that the prosecution didn't play. She also
claimed that the rules of evidence allowed "summaries" of documents to
be presented during trial, with the full documents sent back to the
jury room with the jury during deliberations.

But defense attorney H. Louis Sirkin reminded the court that obscenity
charges presented a special case within the law, and that the Miller
test did not countenance "summaries" of alleged obscene material.

Sirkin argued that the law required that the charged videos needed to
be viewed not only "as a whole," but also in the order that the
material had been presented on the DVDs, and opined that it would be
"more disruptive and more time-consuming" to play the disks
"piecemeal" rather than straight through. Besides, he reiterated,
"There's nothing that says they [the prosecution] have to go forward
on all five videos," and that attempting to play only excerpts or to
play the scenes out of order would be "prejudicial and unfair."

But while Judge Bucklew stated that she didn't think the government
would have to play the entire 510 minutes for the videos to be
admissible into evidence, she left the issue by advising the
prosecutors to seriously consider playing all of the charged material.

However, by the end of the day, it was unclear whether the judge would
even allow the defense to play the full videos during its case in
chief, although she had definitely forbade them from playing the disks
while cross-examining postal inspector Karen Walker, the person who
had ordered the DVDs sent to Tampa in the first place.

The trial had begun much more peacefully, though. Freitas began her
opening statement by assuring the jury that they were not here "to
legislate or create policy" regarding sexually-explicit material, and
that "we're certainly not here to present evidence attacking the adult
industry," but rather simply to enforce the Miller standard, which she
briefly outlined to the triers of fact.

Sirkin, on the other hand, speaking for defendant Max World
Entertainment, told the jury that they would find that none of the
charged material had been made in Florida, that Max Hardcore didn't
host a Website in Florida, and that none of the DVDs ordered by the
government's agents had been sold or mailed by Max Hardcore, but
rather by Jaded Video - a company which had been given immunity in
order to testify against Hardcore. He also noted that all of the
material had been produced with consenting adults, and predicted that
they would find that the materials, when viewed as a whole, weren't
obscene.

Jeffrey Douglas, representing Max Hardcore personally, said that he
would reserve his opening statement for later.

The prosecution's first witness was James Fottrell, a computer
forensics specialist who testified that he had done a "traceroute"
search on the Website maxhardcore.com, and had also downloaded the
contents of that site - including roughly 950 .wmv video files, some
of which were promotional trailers designated "Euro Version" - to a
hard drive. He further testified that at least five of those video
files were "available to the public," including the "Euro" trailers
for Max Extreme 20, Pure Max 19, Golden Guzzlers 7, Fists of Fury 4,
and Planet Max 16 - which the prosecution then proceeded to play for
the jury ... and the approximately 15 legal interns from around the
courthouse who had gathered in the audience for the presentation.

One bone of contention was the accuracy of the "traceroute" report
that Fottrell had created, as well as some of the site ownership
information attached to it. After lengthy argument, during which
Douglas pointed out that almost since the inception of the Internet,
people had engaged in "spoofing," or creating false data on the 'Net,
the prosecution agreed to withdraw the alleged site ownership data.

During cross-examination, defense attorney Jennifer Kinsley brought
out the fact that although the traceroute report seemed to indicate
that maxhardcore.com was hosted in Tampa, it was not uncommon for the
Web address of a Website and the physical location of the server on
which it is hosted to be entirely different. She also got Fottrell to
admit that he had done his Website capture from his office in the
Washington, D.C. area rather than in Tampa, and that when he had said
that the trailers charged in the indictment were "available to the
public," he had failed to mention that a username and password - in
other words, a paid subscription to the site - would be required in
order to view the trailers online.

The prosecution also presented Charles Charmatz, an employee of
Hostway Corporation, whose subsidiary, Candid Hosting, had provided
the server on which maxhardcore.com was situated, and who said that
that server was located just one block from the Sam M. Gibbons U.S.
Courthouse where the trial was taking place. On cross-examination,
however, Hardcore's attorney Jamie Benjamin brought out Charmatz had
never met Max Hardcore, and that to his knowledge, Hardcore had never
set foot in the Hostway server facility in Tampa.

Freitas co-prosecutor Edward McAndrew then called Marcus Bohn, general
counsel for fulfillment company CCBill, to the stand. Bohn testified
that CCBill's records listed Max Hardcore (under his real name) as the
principal of maxhardcore.com, catalinaxxx.com and
pissedonpornstars.com, all of which CCBill collected receipts for and
passed along to Hardcore.

Finally, Freitas called Linda Walker, who testified that she had
placed orders for three of the charged DVDs through the
maxhardcore.com Website, one through catalinaxxx.com and one through
pissedonpornstars.com; that when she had clicked on the links to order
each of the DVDs, she had been redirected each time to the
jadedvideo.com site, and that when she paid for the videos by postal
money order, she had sent all of the money orders to a company named
JKG, Inc. in Irvine, California.

It was at that point that Freitas started playing Max Extreme 20,
which included an opening statement by former porn star Catalina to
the effect that no minors were allowed to watch the material, that the
video should not be played in areas where it was illegal to present
such material, and that all of the sex acts contained therein were
being performed by consenting adults. The sex-play between Catalina,
Taylor Rain and Max Hardcore has been referenced earlier, and though
Freitas indicated that she would play at least the rest of Max Extreme
20, how much if any of the rest of the charged videos would be played
remains in doubt.

The implications of the failure to play all of the charged footage are
enormous, and it was clear that the prosecution now faces a dilemma.
If it elects, as it has previously promised, to play simply excerpts
from the charged material, such a practice would appear to render the
jury unable to make a judgment on the material "taken as a whole,"
while if it does play the full eight-and-a-half hours of material, not
including extras, it runs the risk of either offending the jury's
sensibilities or putting it to sleep.

In any case, tomorrow may be a crucial day in the trial of Max
Hardcore.

After the proceedings concluded for the day, Hardcore stated that he
was confident that he would be vindicated by the end of the trial, and
that he was defending his material not only for himself, but for
everyone who produces sexually-explicit content.

"I'm standing tall because I know I'm in the right," he said. "I'm
facing down the government because they have no right to tell the
American people what they can watch in their own homes that's made by
consenting adults, with consenting adults and for consenting adults."
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#334464 - 05/28/08 06:09 PM Re: The Max Hardcore Obscenity Trial: Day 2
Eminence Front Offline
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Quote:

and that none of the DVDs ordered by the
government's agents had been sold or mailed by Max Hardcore, but rather by Jaded Video - a company which had been given immunity in order to testify against Hardcore




Hmmm, wonder what they could say besides that they carry his product, makes me re-think about buying anything from them, they could have stone walled them and waited for a subpoena.
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#334465 - 05/28/08 06:11 PM Re: The Max Hardcore Obscenity Trial: Day 2
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Quote:

"I'm thinking of reconsidering my earlier ruling," the judge said, after just having watched Catalina and Taylor Rain sucking Max's cock, deep-throating it, getting fucked in the ass and being peed upon.



"I think it would be very difficult for the jury to sit through five of these," she opined, adding that she was considering reneging on her statement at the start of the proceedings today, that she would urge the prosecution to play all of the charged videos in their entirety.



In so stating, the judge said that she was mindful of the Miller test's requirement that the videos in question be "taken as a whole," and she said that she thought it would be a bad idea for the prosecution to play just excerpts from the videos, and then have the defense play those same videos in their entirety, because she felt the jury should not have to sit through playing of any of the material twice.



<snip>



The implications of the failure to play all of the charged footage are enormous, and it was clear that the prosecution now faces a dilemma. If it elects, as it has previously promised, to play simply excerpts from the charged material, such a practice would appear to render the jury unable to make a judgment on the material "taken as a whole," while if it does play the full eight-and-a-half hours of material, not including extras, it runs the risk of either offending the jury's sensibilities or putting it to sleep.



In any case, tomorrow may be a crucial day in the trial of Max Hardcore.



After the proceedings concluded for the day, Hardcore stated that he was confident that he would be vindicated by the end of the trial, and that he was defending his material not only for himself, but for everyone who produces sexually-explicit content.



"I'm standing tall because I know I'm in the right," he said. "I'm facing down the government because they have no right to tell the American people what they can watch in their own homes that's made by consenting adults, with consenting adults and for consenting adults."





Sounds like the judge just wants to get this case the hell out of her courtroom and let the Eleventh Circuit deal with it.


Quote:



Hmmm, wonder what they could say besides that they carry his product, makes me re-think about buying anything from them, they could have stone walled them and waited for a subpoena.




I seem to recall reading that the Government made them an offer they couldn't refuse: Testify against Max or face trial with him.


Edited by Jim B. (05/28/08 06:17 PM)

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#334466 - 05/28/08 07:01 PM Re: The Max Hardcore Obscenity Trial: Day 2
Anonymous
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Gene has something on the Jaded issue:

Quote:



“The other interesting aspect of this case is the situation with Jaded Video,” says The Vizier. “They sold the DVD’s, and now they’re getting immunity to testify against Max.”


“The government, in its case, showed how they ordered the DVD’s from a link on Max’s site back to Jaded’s. They ordered from Jaded and paid them. And Jaded shipped them. So why is Max on trial? Interesting, huh?”


According to The Vizier who knows something of the background of this case, when Max first talked to Jim the owner of Jaded Video and Andrew, the ex-partner, Max told them up front they were taking their chances by shipping the product.


“One of the reasons that Max went with outside vendors is because he got popped before in 1999 on his state case,” explains The Vizier.


“Max didn’t hide that fact from them. And Jaded agreed to sell them, stating that’s why they were charging so much for the product. These were the Euro versions, we’re talking about, and Max was always of the belief they should be sold in this country. But after he got popped selling them Max said it was too much trouble. Jim then approached Max about selling them on the Jaded website. They said they wanted the Euro versions and knew the risks.”


[In the whole time Max has been doing business, he’s had only one return from a dissatisfied customer- and that was from a blind guy.]


Smelling a rat, the Vizier suspects that Jaded Video had been working all along for the government to set Max up and that’s why they’re getting the immunity.


“This immunity deal is signed by Andrew Oosterbaan. You better believe Max was set up. This whole Tampa venue is a government scam.”


“Another thing that stinks is that on Max’s website there’s a warning to say that the material is for adults only and that it's illegal to continue on the site if adult is illegal in your neighborhood in violation of the community standards. So the government had to break the law to get Max to break the law.”





http://www.adultfyi.com/read.php?ID=28325

+ + +

If nothing else, it seems to explain why Jim Jaded's been MIA the last several months.

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#334467 - 05/28/08 07:06 PM Re: The Max Hardcore Obscenity Trial: Day 2
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Registered: 04/22/08
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I see no other way than to have them view all of the work as a whole, something the prosecution definitely doesn't want. No doubt the third prong in the Miller test is most compelling and at play here...if they weren't in FL I'd say this will be easy for Sirkin, Douglas, et al...but the make-up of that jury says it's anyone's guess.

Nonetheless, excellent coverage. Kudos to AVN & Kernes.

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#334468 - 05/28/08 07:08 PM Re: The Max Hardcore Obscenity Trial: Day 2
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"Immunity" is a legal way of saying, COVER YOUR FUCKING ASS. No telling what DOJ (or IRS for that matter) has on Jaded.

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#334469 - 05/28/08 07:37 PM Re: The Max Hardcore Obscenity Trial: Day 2
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Registered: 01/30/07
Posts: 271
So the jury couldn't even stomach watching that tiny bit of his "work"? Yep, it's looking real good there, Mr. Little. But I wouldn't make any long term travel plans if I were you.

Let's hope there will be some prison tapes made showing "Max" taking cocks up his ass and being throat-fucked. I predict he'll gain a whole new outlook on that type of fun and games.

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#334470 - 05/28/08 08:05 PM Re: The Max Hardcore Obscenity Trial: Day 2
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Exhibit 1:



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#334471 - 05/28/08 09:11 PM Re: The Max Hardcore Obscenity Trial: Day 2
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I'm amazed the episode with Jessie has never been show at a trial. He's shooting all alone in that one and she asks him to stop several times as she completely falls apart. He does not comply. It's one of the few things he's shot that's really disturbed me...
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#334472 - 05/28/08 10:37 PM Re: The Max Hardcore Obscenity Trial: Day 2
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So far, it looks like Max's legal team is making brilliant moves.

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#334473 - 05/29/08 07:24 AM Re: The Max Hardcore Obscenity Trial: Day 2
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I wonder if the lady judge would turn a blind eye to discreet masturbation in the public gallery.

Or maybe that is what prompted her to stop the tape after the Taylor Rain scene.

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#334474 - 05/29/08 10:23 AM Re: The Max Hardcore Obscenity Trial: Day 2
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What I despise with every fiber of my being are the hypocrites who, while viewing the videos, are aroused but hastily join in the chorus that this is somehow unnatural and repugnant.

God, I hope one person on the jury has the balls to stand up and say "Hey, I like this, so fuck you!"
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#334475 - 05/29/08 10:27 AM Re: The Max Hardcore Obscenity Trial: Day 2
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I'd be happier if someone on the panel said "You know what? I don't like this one bit, but, since they're all consenting adults, the Government's got no right to interfere." I think that would send a much stronger message.

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#334476 - 05/29/08 11:45 AM Re: The Max Hardcore Obscenity Trial: Day 2
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Quote:



God, I hope one person on the jury has the balls to stand up and say "Hey, I like this, so fuck you!"


agreed. i would have not weasled my way out of jury duty if it meant having such an opportunity.
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#334477 - 05/29/08 01:29 PM Re: The Max Hardcore Obscenity Trial: Day 2
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PLEASE keep posting updates. And someone change a diaper in the courtroom.

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#334478 - 05/29/08 02:06 PM Re: The Max Hardcore Obscenity Trial: Day 2
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Make sure it isn't a baby girls diaper that gets changed- that might cause Max to leap from his seat and rush the defenseless infant with a hardon.

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#334479 - 05/29/08 10:54 PM Re: The Max Hardcore Obscenity Trial: Day 2
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So far, it looks like Max's legal team is making brilliant moves.




money talks baybeeee

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