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#334341 - 05/27/08 07:20 PM The Max Hardcore Obscenity Trial: Day 1
Saevus Maximus Offline
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Registered: 04/19/03
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Loc: In the corner, cutting myself.
As reported at avn.com

The Max Hardcore Obscenity Trial: Day 1
'Taken as a whole' to be a major issue in obscenity case
By: Mark Kernes

Posted: 05/27/2008

TAMPA - Practically from the moment court convened this morning before Judge Susan C. Bucklew in the case of United States v. [Max Hardcore] and Maxworld Entertainment, issues that could determine the entire course of the obscenity trial were hard-fought between the prosecution and the defense.
At primary issue was the government's contention that it was not required to show all of the footage on the five DVDs which it had charged in Counts 6-10 as being obscene, although it said it would show the entirety of the five promotional video clips - one but one under two minutes long - that form Counts 1-5 of the indictment.


Rather, argued prosecutor Lisa Marie Freitas, the government planned to play only selected sections of the five DVDs - two to two-and-a-half hours in all, including some non-sex footage - and then send the DVDs back with the jury to the jury room when it came time to deliberate, with the judge instructing the jurors to watch the complete movies and extras there.

"The issue is," Freitas' co-counsel Edward McAndrew later argued, "who the jury might blame for having to watch it" - referring to the approximately eight-and-a-half hours of material that the government had charged in its indictment.

"The government chose to buy five videos; they could have bought one," responded prominent First Amendment attorney H. Louis Sirkin, one of the attorneys representing Maxworld Entertainment, noting that the government could withdraw any of the charged videos from the case if it wanted to.

The problem for the government is the Supreme Court's Miller test, from its seminal obscenity decision in Miller v. California. That ruling requires any material charged as obscene to be "taken as a whole" - and the defense's position is that excerpts taken from a charged work hardly meet that requirement.

Moreover, it's certainly possible to infer from McAndrew's statement that he may not expect the jury to play the five DVDs in their entirety if left to their own devices in the jury room ... and if they did not, no one outside of the jury itself would ever know.

After more than 20 minutes of argument on the issue at the end of the day, Judge Bucklew stated that she would have to watch the DVDs in their entirety before she could make a decision, and the prosecution handed the five DVDs to her as court recessed, noting that it would also send out a letter stating just which portions of the DVDs it intended to play for the jury if the judge ruled in its favor.

The judge did make some rulings, however. The defense, in the person of Jennifer Kinsley, Sirkin's partner, had argued that the jury should be informed that all of the performers in the charged footage had voluntarily consented to perform the sex acts depicted, lest the jury somehow infer that any of the acts were non-consensual. The judge agreed that Kinsley could give that information to the jury.

Finally, both sides argued over whether the "community standards" prong of the Miller test required that the Middle District of Florida, the site of the trial, "accept" the videos in question in order for the defendants to be acquitted - the prosecution's position - or whether the community need only "tolerate" them - a lower standard sought by the defense. After a short but case-law-heavy argument from both sides, the judge ruled that the defense could indeed refer to the community's "toleration" of the charged material when it presented its case.

Also involved in the case are First Amendment defenders Jeffrey Douglas and Ft. Lauderdale-based Jamie Benjamin, representing Max Hardcore, and Benjamin's partner, Dan Aaronson, defending Maxworld with Kinsley and Sirkin.

But all of the above arguments served as bookends for the day, the middle portion of which was taken up in selecting the jury itself. A panel of 40 Middle District residents was assembled in the courtroom, and Judge Bucklew, who had earlier denied the defense's request to submit a detailed questionnaire to the jury pool, herself asked the majority of the questions in determining which of the panel would sit on the trial jury.

The judge's questions covered such areas as the potential jurors' employment, their backgrounds, their religiosity, their membership in any religious or secular pro-censorship groups; whether any of them regularly listened to Rush Limbaugh or Howard Stern (score: Limbaugh 1, Stern 0); whether any of them owned personal computers and had ever seen sexual material on the Web; whether any owned a VCR or DVD player (all did); and whether any regularly read newspapers or watched the news on TV (most did one or the other, often both).

In deciding what questions to ask, the judge disclosed her dislike of questions that began with, "Do you believe" and "Do you feel," and specifically rejected the defense's request that she ask whether any potential juror had any "moral convictions" regarding adult material.

But although she didn't ask the question, at least three jurors made their religiously-based dislike of the material known during the questioning.

One also said that since he had four daughters, he wouldn't be able to look at the movies and be impartial about the performers vomiting and drinking piss within them.

Another potential juror also disclosed that she was unable to look at anyone vomiting without getting nauseous herself, and she was eventually excused for that reason, with the judge agreeing with Kinsley's contention that if the woman vomited while the movies were being played, that that might prejudice the rest of the jury against the material.

In the end, 12 jurors and one alternate were selected, including one licensed practical nurse, one statistician, one insurance claims examiner, a nurses' manager, a credit manager, an attorney's assistant, a museum worker, a pawnbroker and a civil engineer.

Opening statements are scheduled to begin at 9 a.m. tomorrow - and a report on the day's activities will appear on this site tomorrow evening.
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#334342 - 05/27/08 08:40 PM Re: The Max Hardcore Obscenity Trial: Day 1
Uomo Grassissimo!! Offline
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Registered: 04/14/06
Posts: 14755
Loc: Busy downloading [LEGALLY!]
Good luck to Max. I personally don't like his stuff, but my hopes for a free America are with him.
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#334343 - 05/27/08 08:43 PM Re: The Max Hardcore Obscenity Trial: Day 1
obcalif Offline
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Registered: 05/15/06
Posts: 28
I never once in my life have been picked for a jury. Always asked about my profession (LCSW)...then dismissed ? Would not like to sit through 5 hours of Max videos, as a scene or two would be more than enough. Did Max miss the Grand Prix last week? What a name Grand Prix. So not fitting for a Max video.

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#334344 - 05/28/08 06:38 AM Re: The Max Hardcore Obscenity Trial: Day 1
PHATBOY Offline
Internet Tough Guy

Registered: 06/02/03
Posts: 764
Freedom if taken by force can be restored by force.
Freedom given up voulintarily can never be restored.
What will we do without freedom? It is the most simple of things and yet so complicated. It costs nothing to produce but thousands have died to keep it.
It would be wise for the government to use caution these days when dealing with the freedoms of others.
I pose a question to prosecutor Lisa Marie Freitas.
Is burning the American flag one thread at a time no less shamefull than burning it all at once?
God bless America! Land of the free!
(Where even free shit is taxed.)
PHATBOY

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#334345 - 05/28/08 06:43 AM Re: The Max Hardcore Obscenity Trial: Day 1
ivorenginedriver Offline
Porn Fucking Master

Registered: 09/19/05
Posts: 3576
Loc: Baltimore, MD
Not a fan of Max, but putting the man on trial shows a total abuse of power from the Bush DoJ. Bush, Cheney, and Rumsfeld ought to be on trial, and Max ought to be a free man.

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#334346 - 05/28/08 04:52 PM Re: The Max Hardcore Obscenity Trial: Day 1
Anonymous
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Today it's Porn. Tomorrow it'll be TV.

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#334347 - 05/28/08 05:29 PM Re: The Max Hardcore Obscenity Trial: Day 1
SpongeBub Offline
Max Hardcore Prison Bitch

Registered: 01/30/07
Posts: 271
I haven't been to this board in months but I had to come back to say thank FSM Paul Little is finally getting what is coming to him. I hope they find him guilty, take every penny he has (especially the "Max Hardcore mansion") and put his ass in jail for 10 years.

You fools who defend this guy make me laugh. Don't you see how bad he is for porn? He brings unnecesary heat on all porn and for what? Only a gay-ass sicko could watch more than a minute of that puking, defecating, woman-hating crap he churns out.

At least GWB will get one thing right before he is run out of washington if he can bring down this misogynist and put him in jail where he should have been years ago.

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#334348 - 05/28/08 05:42 PM Re: The Max Hardcore Obscenity Trial: Day 1
I Love Moose Knuckle Offline
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Registered: 12/18/07
Posts: 68
Loc: Orange County, CA
Quote:

I haven't been to this board in months but I had to come back to say thank FSM Paul Little is finally getting what is coming to him. I hope they find him guilty, take every penny he has (especially the "Max Hardcore mansion") and put his ass in jail for 10 years.

You fools who defend this guy make me laugh. Don't you see how bad he is for porn? He brings unnecesary heat on all porn and for what? Only a gay-ass sicko could watch more than a minute of that puking, defecating, woman-hating crap he churns out.

At least GWB will get one thing right before he is run out of washington if he can bring down this misogynist and put him in jail where he should have been years ago.





The irony of this is that Max Hardcore is fighting for the First Amendment, which includes protecting your fucking retarded un-American opinion.

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#334349 - 05/28/08 05:57 PM Re: The Max Hardcore Obscenity Trial: Day 1
Eminence Front Offline
Internet Tough Guy

Registered: 07/14/06
Posts: 775
Loc: Hollywood, CA
Quote:

I haven't been to this board in months but I had to come back to say thank FSM Paul Little is finally getting what is coming to him. I hope they find him guilty, take every penny he has (especially the "Max Hardcore mansion") and put his ass in jail for 10 years.

You fools who defend this guy make me laugh. Don't you see how bad he is for porn? He brings unnecesary heat on all porn and for what? Only a gay-ass sicko could watch more than a minute of that puking, defecating, woman-hating crap he churns out.

At least GWB will get one thing right before he is run out of washington if he can bring down this misogynist and put him in jail where he should have been years ago.





Unnecessary Heat?

You sound like the kind of coward that would sit back and let people bully others least you bring undo attention to yourself, (the playground is safe as long as we don't go by the swings..) it's our RIGHT and DUTY to test the limits of of *OUR* Government and it's freedoms, that *heat* you are feeling is just the spark, the tip of a sword that is ready to pierce your freedom and mine, maybe when it burns just a little more closer to your sexual proclivity you may wake up and understand why you are wrong!
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#334350 - 05/28/08 05:59 PM Re: The Max Hardcore Obscenity Trial: Day 1
Anonymous
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Meh. Spongey's one of those Anti-Anal Activists. Let him rant.

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#334351 - 05/28/08 06:29 PM Re: The Max Hardcore Obscenity Trial: Day 1
Bornyo Offline
Porn Jesus

Registered: 09/23/04
Posts: 10321
I just hope they solve the case of the missing whore- some say she was the real reason they raided his place, trying to find out how she vanished.

Has the defense mentioned the "shotgun" discharged by FBI agents through the floor nearly killing the illegal immigrant employees slaving in the basement?

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