If you treat ppl a certain way in order to get certain things from them, there is nothing karmic about that. That is just common sense. But when someone lies, cheats, and steals their entire life then they die in a plane crash, everyone blames it as karma. It is as illogical as divine intervention. People blaming unrelated events happening because of how someone treated people classify that as karma. That's where I have the problem.
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