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Don't worry Ben, you'll have the last laugh when you inherit the earth.

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Do you ever meet old school colleagues, family friends etc who are disappointed with your career choice / how you're going etcetera? Maybe its just me

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I was outed to my extended family by my asshole cousin about 3 months after I started producing porn. He worked I.T. for a web hosting company that hosted nothing but adult websites, which is how he knew about my career change. But he failed to mention that part when exposing me at a family gathering.

Worse yet (if anything could be worse than being a pornographer) was a few months later when they found out I was a practicing Wiccan and had been for years.

Now this hypocritical, self-righteous group of Born-Again Evangelical Christians that I have for a family, prays constantly for my soul.
With the exception of my parents, they have ceased to invite me to family functions and I'm no longer on any of their Xmas card lists.


I don't typically just blurt out what I do to people I've just met, however, I do enjoy seeing the look on their faces when they idly ask, "So what do you do for a living?" and I give them the honest answer.
The responses split pretty evenly between "Appalled" and "Intrigued".

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Worse yet (if anything could be worse than being a pornographer) was a few months later when they found out I was a practicing Wiccan and had been for years.

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Worse yet (if anything could be worse than being a pornographer) was a few months later when they found out I was a practicing Wiccan and had been for years.

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This would make me disown my child out of sheer embarassment that my genes could produce such idiocy.

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As opposed to what; the idiocy of believing in a big invisible man in the sky?

What you call praying, I call chanting.
What you call divine intervention, I call Karma.
What you call the Golden Rule (Do unto others...), I call the Wiccan Creed (Harm none...).
You believe in an afterlife and so do I, we only differ in the details.

Being a spiritual person is not idiocy, forcing your spiritual beliefs on another is.

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Why does it have to be a cause and effect situation where it keeps you from mistreating someone just to prevent bad things happening to you? Why can't you just treat someone well for the sake of being a decent person? There shouldn't be an incentive.

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Ceara, I'm not saying that choices are never incentive driven. We've all done good things for people just to get in their good graces for that promotion, that guy/girl, etc; however, to be a decent human being in hopes of being indirectly rewarded from the universe is where I think it's illogical.

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This would make me disown my child out of sheer embarassment that my genes could produce such idiocy.

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As opposed to what; the idiocy of believing in a big invisible man in the sky?

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Ceara, I'm not saying that choices are never incentive driven. We've all done good things for people just to get in their good graces for that promotion, that guy/girl, etc; however, to be a decent human being in hopes of being indirectly rewarded from the universe is where I think it's illogical.

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But when someone lies, cheats, and steals their entire life then they die in a plane crash, everyone blames it as karma. It is as illogical as divine intervention. People blaming unrelated events happening because of how someone treated people classify that as karma. That's where I have the problem.

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I don't understand people who believe in karma.

Why does it have to be a cause and effect situation where it keeps you from mistreating someone just to prevent bad things happening to you? Why can't you just treat someone well for the sake of being a decent person? There shouldn't be an incentive.

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That's the thing. I don't believe in all these airy- fairy things like energy and vibes.

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That's the thing. I don't believe in all these airy- fairy things like energy and vibes.

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Actually it's a belief founded more in physics then metaphysics.

Solid matter, after all, is only a form of energy locked in a specific vibrational state. And you can clearly affect or be affected by solid matter. You are also affected by many other forms of energy through out your life; heat, light, all manner of the electromagnetic spectrum.
You control your own thoughts and emotions, which are nothing more than exerting control to bind energy in specific vibrational states within your brain. Is being able to externalize this control that far fetched?

The entire universe works on the principals of attraction and repulsion (gravity and the strong & weak nuclear forces), and we live within that universe, not apart from it.

Rather than "airy-fairy", it's actually quite logical and based in scientific fact and theory rather than myth and fabrication.

Plus, our Sabbats rock.

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...because this sounds like complete BS to me.

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I find it odd that you consider the big three to be Christinaity, Islam and Judaism.

Hinduism, Buddhism and Sikhism all dwarf Judaism in their numbers of followers/believers.

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...because this sounds like complete BS to me.

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As do ALL spiritual belief systems

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Put simply, I don't want someone telling me what I should and shouldn't believe in. I'll listen to someone else's beliefs and have philosophical discussions with them about it, but I will not be preached to, and I don't need to be "saved".

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Put simply, I don't want someone telling me what I should and shouldn't believe in. I'll listen to someone else's beliefs and have philosophical discussions with them about it, but I will not be preached to, and I don't need to be "saved".

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So you chose Wicca as the most offensive religion to piss off your Evangelical Christian parents.

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If I understand Ceara's point properly, it is that to do the right thing causes one to feel good. My favorite relaxation is to walk along an abandoned railroad line along a peaceful river. A few evenings ago, I found a cell phone, and later that evening the owner called the cell from a landline, and I answered, and she came over to my house and picked up her cell phone. It feels good to do a good deed,

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You didn't say you let her leave.
Is she in the potato cellar?

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So you chose Wicca as the most offensive religion to piss off your Evangelical Christian parents.

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Isn't Christianity a Judeo-Christian religion based in Wiccan beliefs?

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Isn't Christianity a Judeo-Christian religion based in Wiccan beliefs?

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Not really...

Christianity borrows heavily from the Pagans when it comes to its holidays though.

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I don't understand people who believe in karma.

Why does it have to be a cause and effect situation where it keeps you from mistreating someone just to prevent bad things happening to you? Why can't you just treat someone well for the sake of being a decent person? There shouldn't be an incentive.

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So you chose Wicca as the most offensive religion to piss off your Evangelical Christian parents.

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