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#331037 - 01/08/09 01:01 AM Re: What is the last Movie you watched?
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this one!




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#331038 - 01/08/09 02:28 AM Re: What is the last Movie you watched?
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I much rather see some new ideas. That's why you'll notice that many of my movies are either foreign, Bad but campy, or forgotten gems from the 70s to early 80s.




Damn straight...I'm on an Italian horror/giallo kick at the minute.

Also, this thread is called 'What is the last Movie you watched?', so I don't see why everybody is getting their panties in a bunch because MK-77 has the temerity to post about the last movie he watched. It's not like he's posting gaping anus pics in the 'I like titties' thread, is it?


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#331039 - 01/08/09 07:58 AM Re: What is the last Movie you watched?
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i think it's because he makes so many of these posts, mostly about this one type of movie. sometimes like two or three in a day, as though he spends every second immersed in horror films. maybe just my opinion, but it can easily be read as a type of posing. i don't really care, but i see where mr. node is coming from. there's way more egregious fronting going on in this place than some dude trying to pretend to be the super hardcore underground horror master.
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#331040 - 01/08/09 09:06 AM Re: What is the last Movie you watched?
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I'm not too into superhero flicks, but I finally got around to seeing The Dark Knight and I now know why it was hyped so much. Fantastic film and it didn't seem nearly as long as it really was because it kept my attention until the very end. The only criticism I have is that I was much more drawn to the Joker than Batman...Heath Ledger's performance definitely out shined Christian Bale's IMO.



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#331041 - 01/08/09 10:31 AM Re: What is the last Movie you watched?
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i think it's because he makes so many of these posts, mostly about this one type of movie. sometimes like two or three in a day, as though he spends every second immersed in horror films.




You say that like spending every second immersed in a horror film is a bad thing!

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maybe just my opinion, but it can easily be read as a type of posing. i don't really care, but i see where mr. node is coming from. there's way more egregious fronting going on in this place than some dude trying to pretend to be the super hardcore underground horror master.




I'd feel better/less envious if he was proven to be fronting, frankly, but given the access you folks in North America have to numerous horror conventions wherein people can pick up the coolest stuff at very reasonable prices, I'm not inclined to doubt him if he says he's got it or watched it...but I take your point, because in theory, this is the same thing I rail against Sasha Grey doing (Just thank your lucky stars we don't have her posting in the 'What have you watched/read/listened to' threads! ).

Maybe MK-77 could throw in a Ben Affleck movie for every ten horror movies to even things out?


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#331042 - 01/08/09 01:05 PM Re: What is the last Movie you watched?
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I'm willing to wager that no one on here has seen this little gem.

True indie horror at it's best (or worst), the video quality and acting leave much to be desired, but they're both so depraved that it makes them fun to watch. Meat For Satan's Icebox is definitely the better of the two.



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#331043 - 01/08/09 01:47 PM Re: What is the last Movie you watched?
John Doe Offline
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People are still derailing this thread? Funny thing is, I never knew that the people high fiving limpnode, ever had a problem with me. Why didn't you speak up sooner? Preferably in another section of the forum, instead of derailing this thread?

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i think it's because he makes so many of these posts, mostly about this one type of movie. sometimes like two or three in a day, as though he spends every second immersed in horror films.



I think you have me confused with someone else. I usually post one movie a day, 95% of the time. Unless it was a double feature, which isn't often. It's not difficult to find time to pop in one 90 minute DVD, and watch it, while I'm having dinner. It doesn't take every moment of a given day to do that. I have a job, and a mortgage to pay. So that wouldn't be possible.
As far as me only posting 1 or 2 types movie genres? So what? That's my preference of movies, so that's what I post about. The OP didn't specify any particular genre when he started this thread.
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maybe just my opinion, but it can easily be read as a type of posing.



Posing about watching movies on an Internet porn forum, where most of us are anonymous anyways? What would I possibly have to gain by doing that? We need to get back to reality here...

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i don't really care,



If you didn't care, then you wouldn't feel a need to post about it.

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but i see where mr. node is coming from.



That makes one of us. He compared me to people I've never heard of, and couldn't look up, due to username changes.
Mr node? Why is it that in every forum, there's always people that feel a need to kiss moderator ass? This is just the internet. There's nothing that you say or do in it, that anyone is gonna remember in a Hundred years. So give it a rest.

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there's way more egregious fronting going on in this place than some dude trying to pretend to be the super hardcore underground horror master.



I've never thought of myself as a "super hardcore underground horror master" but it's funny that you thought so. I really don't get what's so hard to believe about my movie postings. Most of my movies are easily accessible to anyone with a credit/Debit card who wants to order them from Amazon.com or Deepdiscount.com. They're also easily available to anyone with Vuze/Utorrent, a DVD burner, and a stack of DVD-Rs. It's all really easy, and doesn't take a lot of time and dedication on my part.

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#331044 - 01/08/09 01:50 PM Re: What is the last Movie you watched?
John Doe Offline
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Quote:

Quote:

i think it's because he makes so many of these posts, mostly about this one type of movie. sometimes like two or three in a day, as though he spends every second immersed in horror films.




You say that like spending every second immersed in a horror film is a bad thing!

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maybe just my opinion, but it can easily be read as a type of posing. i don't really care, but i see where mr. node is coming from. there's way more egregious fronting going on in this place than some dude trying to pretend to be the super hardcore underground horror master.




I'd feel better/less envious if he was proven to be fronting, frankly, but given the access you folks in North America have to numerous horror conventions wherein people can pick up the coolest stuff at very reasonable prices, I'm not inclined to doubt him if he says he's got it or watched it...but I take your point, because in theory, this is the same thing I rail against Sasha Grey doing (Just thank your lucky stars we don't have her posting in the 'What have you watched/read/listened to' threads! ).

Maybe MK-77 could throw in a Ben Affleck movie for every ten horror movies to even things out?





Would that make them happy?

I doubt it. Anyway, I'm off to run some errands. I'll be back to post about tonight's movie, later. That's IF limpnode doesn't recommend my banning, to the forum Administrator. If that's the case, Then those of you who haven't been assholes in this thread, have a good life.
Because I won't be back.

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#331045 - 01/08/09 02:08 PM Re: What is the last Movie you watched?
Vizzle Offline
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Now c'mon guys, let's not ruin an awesome thread. I like the kind of stuff MK-77 recommends and have even taken his advice on films a few times. Loop's a good guy too and he also has a great taste in film.

Personally, I don't see what the big damn deal is. Can everyone just step away for a few minutes, have a beer/bong, and chill out??? This is probably my favorite thread in this place because it usually avoids this type of nonsense.


Back to my previous post...has anyone here actually seen Meat For Satan's Icebox?


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#331046 - 01/08/09 03:09 PM Re: What is the last Movie you watched?
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Back to my previous post...has anyone here actually seen Meat For Satan's Icebox?




No, but it's gone on my list...Zombies vs. Wiseguys sounds like it could be fun too.

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#331047 - 01/08/09 03:13 PM Re: What is the last Movie you watched?
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Awesome, you'll have to let me know what you think. Like I said, they're both real low production value, but the "campyness" and the sick shit that happens in Satan's Icebox definitely make them worth the watch.
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#331048 - 01/08/09 04:03 PM Re: What is the last Movie you watched?
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Can everyone just step away for a few minutes, have a beer/bong, and chill out???




definitely...also I don't want mk-77 to stop posting

I just finished watching this after being annoyed by Mr. Bale in Dark Knight



fuck I hate Pantoliano
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#331049 - 01/08/09 05:08 PM Re: What is the last Movie you watched?
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The only complaint I have about this thread is that i wish people would throw a word or two in as to the movie being worth the watch or not. I actually like to see all of everyone's choices, some of it being some odd shit- but sometimes ( and I may guilty of this as well once in awhile) people forget to say whether or not the movie sucked.
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#331050 - 01/08/09 07:14 PM Re: What is the last Movie you watched?
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Fuckin Benjamin Button
2 hours 41 minutes

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#331051 - 01/08/09 07:25 PM Re: What is the last Movie you watched?
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Jerry Lewis in Ingmar Bergman's Scenes From an Idiot's Marriage....


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5A5OfaMlIto
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#331052 - 01/09/09 12:04 AM Re: What is the last Movie you watched?
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#331053 - 01/09/09 12:15 AM Re: What is the last Movie you watched?
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definitely...also I don't want mk-77 to stop posting

I just finished watching this after being annoyed by Mr. Bale in Dark Knight



fuck I hate Pantoliano





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#331054 - 01/09/09 07:41 AM Re: What is the last Movie you watched?
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Watched "Reign Over Me"... I really liked it, although I thought the ending pussed out a little.

Don Cheadle continues to be one of my favorite actors.
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#331055 - 01/09/09 08:27 AM Re: What is the last Movie you watched?
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Watched "Reign Over Me"... I really liked it, although I thought the ending pussed out a little.

Don Cheadle continues to be one of my favorite actors.


Very good movie.

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#331056 - 01/09/09 10:17 AM Re: What is the last Movie you watched?
Nugent Offline
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You'd think a movie where a really slender and cute Japanese chick gets drilled by two different guys on a desert island would be worth watching, right? Wrong. I'll never get back the 90 minutes I wasted watching this thing...
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#331057 - 01/09/09 07:08 PM Re: What is the last Movie you watched?
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Frontier(s), A french horror- ala hills have eyes,TCM but with Nazis. I liked this a lot for a horror movie. The fact that it is euro- gives it a little extra zip, because in my mind, like Hostel these things could happen there

http://www.amazon.com/Frontier-s-Joel-LeFrancois/dp/B0014VPFVS/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=dvd&qid=1231556696&sr=1-1



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#331058 - 01/09/09 07:30 PM Re: What is the last Movie you watched?
RenfieldGyps Offline
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Summer of Sam (Spike Lee), I love love this movie

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#331059 - 01/09/09 10:09 PM Re: What is the last Movie you watched?
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#331060 - 01/09/09 10:27 PM Re: What is the last Movie you watched?
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The Hustler is a great flick. I watched it at least 10 times. Newman is classy!




Indeed.

Back then, there was no such thing as reduced-size coin-op tables and "9 Ball."

One might play "8-Ball" to warm up, or, as a best of three match, to determine choice of break for a 150-ball round of Straight Pool.

The sound of balls falling and clanking around in a coin-op table to be locked up until the next batch of quarters is depressing...





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#331061 - 01/10/09 08:25 AM Re: What is the last Movie you watched?
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Doomsday - with Rhona Mitra. Not a bad post partial Armaggedon flick. The character who played Canaris should win the prize for "creepiest bureaucrat/security official" on the silver screen. I wonder if the original Canaris of WWII fame was similarly spooky.
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#331062 - 01/10/09 10:14 AM Re: What is the last Movie you watched?
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Summer of Sam (Spike Lee), I love love this movie




I always think about the scene where John Leguizamo kisses Mira Sorvino after dropping off her cousin [whom he fucked]. That questioned look when she puzzles over the taste and smell of her cousin's pussy on his lips is priceless!

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#331063 - 01/10/09 10:16 AM Re: What is the last Movie you watched?
Uomo Grassissimo!! Offline
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I watched the end of "The Soldier" with Kurt Russell. I like when the old soldiers throw that annoying colonel out to die.
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#331064 - 01/10/09 04:35 PM Re: What is the last Movie you watched?
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Word. Got all 4 here, and they get pretty regular play.

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#331065 - 01/10/09 05:21 PM Re: What is the last Movie you watched?
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Doomsday - with Rhona Mitra. Not a bad post partial Armaggedon flick. The character who played Canaris should win the prize for "creepiest bureaucrat/security official" on the silver screen. I wonder if the original Canaris of WWII fame was similarly spooky.





I tried watching this with some friends a week or so ago and had to turn it off about an hour into it, lol. I just couldn't get into it...it was almost like it was trying too hard to be Mad Max.
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#331066 - 01/10/09 11:23 PM Re: What is the last Movie you watched?
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Word. Got all 4 here, and they get pretty regular play.




I started watching the 2008 Rambo with low expectations....it ended up being better than I expected.

Saw this tonight.



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#331067 - 01/10/09 11:28 PM Re: What is the last Movie you watched?
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Don Cheadle continues to be one of my favorite actors.




He's way underrated. Be sure to check out Traitor.

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#331068 - 01/11/09 07:25 AM Re: What is the last Movie you watched?
Gigi Offline
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don cheadle
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#331069 - 01/11/09 09:11 AM Re: What is the last Movie you watched?
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don cheadle




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#331070 - 01/11/09 01:48 PM Re: What is the last Movie you watched?
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He's way underrated. Be sure to check out Traitor.




It is in my NetFlix queue... right after Sukiyaki Western Django.
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#331071 - 01/11/09 05:17 PM Re: What is the last Movie you watched?
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The Wrestler.

Great film, Micky Rourke nailed the character.

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#331072 - 01/11/09 06:13 PM Re: What is the last Movie you watched?
RenfieldGyps Offline
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7LBS with Will Smith, it sucked ass big time....

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#331073 - 01/11/09 06:36 PM Re: What is the last Movie you watched?
inebriated kiwi Offline
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7LBS with Will Smith, it sucked ass big time....




Has he ever made a good film??

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#331074 - 01/11/09 07:00 PM Re: What is the last Movie you watched?
Jigaloo Offline
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Aww hell no!
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#331075 - 01/11/09 07:30 PM Re: What is the last Movie you watched?
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Quote:

The Wrestler.

Great film, Micky Rourke nailed the character.



I thought is was awesome too. I just thought the ending was weak. Rourke sure did nail the character though.
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#331076 - 01/11/09 09:33 PM Re: What is the last Movie you watched?
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malcolm x

originally, not one of my favorite spike lee joints, but i find myself liking it better every time i watch it.
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#331077 - 01/11/09 09:47 PM Re: What is the last Movie you watched?
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I always liked Lee's "Malcolm X".
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#331078 - 01/11/09 10:30 PM Re: What is the last Movie you watched?
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Religulous. A mixed bag, but the priest outside the vatican makes the whole thing worth it...
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#331079 - 01/11/09 11:12 PM Re: What is the last Movie you watched?
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Quote:

Quote:

The Wrestler.

Great film, Micky Rourke nailed the character.



I thought is was awesome too. I just thought the ending was weak. Rourke sure did nail the character though.




Yeah, the end wasn't satisfying for me. Nothing was brought to a conclusion.


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#331080 - 01/12/09 06:58 AM Re: What is the last Movie you watched?
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Alligator, i love this old flick.





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#331081 - 01/12/09 11:39 AM Re: What is the last Movie you watched?
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another double feature weekend


Meet Dave was even worse than expected.
Kung Fu Panda was good bit of escapist entertainment after a hellacious weekend.
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#331082 - 01/12/09 02:32 PM Re: What is the last Movie you watched?
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Good (not great) flick that succeeds despite Cruise mugging for the camera with the eye patch. Serious, but not overbearing. Definatly not an action thriller.


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#331083 - 01/12/09 02:43 PM Re: What is the last Movie you watched?
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Quote:

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The Wrestler.

Great film, Micky Rourke nailed the character.



I thought is was awesome too. I just thought the ending was weak. Rourke sure did nail the character though.




Yeah, the end wasn't satisfying for me. Nothing was brought to a conclusion.






the end was the best part, what to you want? a digested end?

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#331084 - 01/12/09 03:12 PM Re: What is the last Movie you watched?
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Great movie by Guy Ritchie. Same concept (more or less) as Lock, Stock, but very well done. 9/10.


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#331085 - 01/12/09 04:30 PM Re: What is the last Movie you watched?
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Definatly not an action thriller.




HOW could it be an action thriller? HOW!!!

We know the ending don't we? The bomb doesn't succeed as planned [outside instead of inside, the moved briefcase, the strong table, not including the second packet of explosive, yadda yadda yadda]. And, most of the plotters are caught and executed, some after sham trial, some without even that.


It reminds me of when my stepsisters got beyond mad at me when I "revealed" that Pompey would get killed upon arrival in Egypt when we watched "Rome".


It's history. How much of it can you fudge anyway?

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#331086 - 01/12/09 05:29 PM Re: What is the last Movie you watched?
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Yeah, but that's what they're calling it. Or "suspense" thriller, which is even more laughable.

I meant that the only real "action" scenes are at the very beginning where he gets shot up in North Africa and when the bomb actually goes off.

They do get the timidity and indecision of the most of generals down pat though. Although I think they made Beck a bit more resolute than he really was. The guy had been talking about doing away with Hitler since '36, IIRC. And that's all it was. Talk.

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It's history. How much of it can you fudge anyway?




Quite a bit I'd think. It's Hollywood.

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