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#325947 - 05/07/08 10:21 AM Steve Seidman: Florida is a Ruined Market, he Says
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Miami- Our long time friend in the business “Porno” Steve Seidman celebrates his 60th birthday today, May 7.

From the sounds of it, Seidman, after a few weeks in humid Miami, is ready to make a return to the relatively cooler climes of Porn Valley.

“And you can add a cul de sac or whatever it’s called, that I’m looking for a job,” states Seidman. We think he meant coda.

“This is fucking ridiculous," he continues. "There was supposed to be a load of shooting down here, and they’re not. It’s very simple.“

Based on some magnificent smoke blown up his ass, Seidman moved to Florida from Houston with the idea that he’d start a talent agency.

“I was told there are 60 to 70 companies shooting down here with plenty of girls wanting to get into the business,” Seidman explains. “I left a very secure position for this.”

“So if anyone’s looking for someone in sales or P.R., I can relocate,” states Seidman whose career began in the business in 1967. That makes him among porn’s longest active vets with the inclusion of Henri Pachard and Jane Waters.

“The modeling agency can work, but they’ve fucked up this market so bad, let other people handle it,” continues Steve.

“You can’t do the girls justice because some of these shooters are scumbags; and they’ve lowered the price so much they’re ruined the market here. It’s just got too fucked up here. Tampa if you can get $600 for a boy-girl shoot you’re doing well. Down here you’ve got a couple of companies that are doing decent shooting - Icy and Bang Bros.; and Scores is very particular right now because they can be.”

Seidman at one time was a male performer and got his start when his college roommate apparently saw his wang in the shower.

“He said my father has a job for you- you can fuck all the women you want and have all the drugs you want, and you get paid,” Seidman recalls.

Seidman won’t say who the roommate was other than the fact his father was shooting loops in New York.

“And they’re part of a family I won’t go into,” Seidman adds for effect.

“But I did Tina Russell, I did Linda Lovelace,” says Seidman.
“We’d get paid $25 a pop.”

“I was a P.A. on the Deep Throat, www.xxxdeepthroat.com set down in Miami,” Seidman continues.

“Matter of fact one of my exes [Seidman’s been married six times] was a dancer. Her name was Fifi Fondue. She was originally from Detroit. Two of those marriages were out in Vegas for business. I don’t even remember getting married I was so fucked up. I’ve lived a colorful life.”

“I’ve read by some accounts that Lovelace had a real stink-crotch,” I mention to Seidman.

“Let me tell you something,” says Seidman. “First of all, it was like fucking the Holland Tunnel. The blowjob was good but not that good. And if Chuck Traynor forced her to do these things I’d be shocked.”

[That’s the way the Lovelace story’s always been told.]

“All I know is that she did a donkey on a set that I was on,” continues Seidman. “This was in New York. They took her out to a fucking farm. You know why in the loops everyone was wearing black socks?”

“Because the floors were filthy,” I answer.

“Exactly,” says Seidman. “Because all the floors of the motels were so fuckin’ dirty.”

It was suggested that Seidman might have a book in him, but the way he talks, most of the names in the stories would have to be redacted.

“Anything I say, I’d have to say in a fictional way because I can’t name names,” he explains.

“The reason I went to prison is because I didn’t talk. But I got some good stories.”

Seidman served four years for drugs, two years Federal, two years state; but as of this past February, he’s 18 years clean.

“I had a major problem,” recalls Seidman. “John Holmes and I used to get high together in Florida.”

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#325948 - 05/07/08 03:04 PM Re: Steve Seidman: Florida is a Ruined Market, he Says
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You can’t do the girls justice because some of these shooters are scumbags; and they’ve lowered the price so much they’re ruined the market here. It’s just got too fucked up here.




So, Donkey 'fucked up' the market in Florida and went to LA to have a go at the porn market over there. Nice.
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#325949 - 05/07/08 03:28 PM Re: Steve Seidman: Florida is a Ruined Market, he Says
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You'd think at 60, he would want to stop babysitting whores. My dad is 64 and no way can I imagine him doing anything that would interrupt bowling or napping.
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#325950 - 05/07/08 04:25 PM Re: Steve Seidman: Florida is a Ruined Market, he Says
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You'd think at 60, he would want to stop babysitting whores. My dad is 64 and no way can I imagine him doing anything that would interrupt bowling or napping.




Didnt Jenna's Father get a little tired of all the trim she was allegedly bringing over to him from the clubs when she used to be in the realm of "normal" attractive looking and worked at the vegas clubs. This was naturally way before her porn career began.


Edited by D. Velvet (05/08/08 12:59 AM)

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#325951 - 05/08/08 06:52 AM Re: Steve Seidman: Florida is a Ruined Market, he Says
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Registered: 03/16/08
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I believe, and I said it before, the industry needs to take charge of it's own self-regulation and establish mechanisms that will purge it of the hucksters and con artists that lie their way through each day as agents and such. There's no reason for the industry to be dragged down by people who have nothing to offer the industry but trouble. I've met some very professional people who know their role and do their job well, and who know how to manage a model or performer for success. Having known at least one -pseudo-agent' who migrated to Florida to help drag it down as he has done, it's no surprise to me the industry there has suffered.

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#325952 - 05/08/08 06:56 AM Re: Steve Seidman: Florida is a Ruined Market, he
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There's no reason for the industry to be dragged down by people who have nothing to offer the industry but trouble.




True dat. You reading this, Donkey? Solidarity over slander.

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#325953 - 05/08/08 10:22 AM Re: Steve Seidman: Florida is a Ruined Market, he
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Steve Seidman thought he could come back and rescue Florida....from the evil people like Eli and Brian. But the have established a foothold in that local area and merely coming in to "save the day" is not as easy as he had once thought.

People like Steve must understand that even if Eli and Brian were out of the picture that there are a lot more people who just like Steve attempted to do….are finding girls for the companies down in South Florida. He also doesn’t understand the business model in general…….your not just going to walk back into you old “stomping ground” and declare victory without any girls or at least a website to promote your products and services.

There are a lot more Steve’s in South Florida then people think just as they are as well in LA…..they just fly below the radar…no websites…..using generic email addresses.

Vizzle should already know that the Donkey left Florida not because of a hurricane or BangBros not using him anymore it was because he wanted to play pimp…..and after he figured out that in LA they don’t play at least when it comes to talent being on time w/ current testing paperwork and ID’s…he decided to play producer/director……to where he is now, today…..begging people on most message boards to hire him to shoot their content and giving them back in return garbage……shitty sub par scenes with overexposed whores.

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#325954 - 05/08/08 12:50 PM Re: Steve Seidman: Florida is a Ruined Market, he
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Registered: 04/11/08
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D Velvet you sure know a lot about me have you been in my pants. BTW, the article really was just a birthday wish and all you experts out there have to make your 2 cent comments. This is bull. The reason I came back was to try and help some of these girls, yes the money is good. But scum like Eli and Brian are thieves and these girls just listen to their bull. Maybe when someone comes in that has an idea of what's really going on he will be able to help. Just because I'm 60 doesn't mean that I'm dead! I don't have to reply to all the idiots out there but guys give me a fuckin' break. As I said I didn't write the article for building my ego it was gene who wrote it and posted it. It was my birthday and with the years in the business I have earned some respect instead of getting bashed when ever I speak. Guys when you've seen the changes that I have maybe you'll be able to comment instead of hiding behind some idiotic avatar.

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#325955 - 05/08/08 02:52 PM Re: Steve Seidman: Florida is a Ruined Market, he
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Registered: 12/28/07
Posts: 4856
Loc: The 4th International
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D Velvet you sure know a lot about me have you been in my pants. BTW, the article really was just a birthday wish and all you experts out there have to make your 2 cent comments. This is bull. The reason I came back was to try and help some of these girls, yes the money is good. But scum like Eli and Brian are thieves and these girls just listen to their bull. Maybe when someone comes in that has an idea of what's really going on he will be able to help. Just because I'm 60 doesn't mean that I'm dead! I don't have to reply to all the idiots out there but guys give me a fuckin' break. As I said I didn't write the article for building my ego it was gene who wrote it and posted it. It was my birthday and with the years in the business I have earned some respect instead of getting bashed when ever I speak. Guys when you've seen the changes that I have maybe you'll be able to comment instead of hiding behind some idiotic avatar.




Who are you again? Sorry, didn't get your name.
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#325956 - 05/08/08 05:27 PM Re: Steve Seidman: Florida is a Ruined Market, he
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I love morons who put their DOB in their screen name.

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#325957 - 05/08/08 06:50 PM Re: Steve Seidman: Florida is a Ruined Market, he
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D Velvet you sure know a lot about me have you been in my pants. BTW, the article really was just a birthday wish and all you experts out there have to make your 2 cent comments. This is bull. The reason I came back was to try and help some of these girls, yes the money is good. But scum like Eli and Brian are thieves and these girls just listen to their bull. Maybe when someone comes in that has an idea of what's really going on he will be able to help. Just because I'm 60 doesn't mean that I'm dead! I don't have to reply to all the idiots out there but guys give me a fuckin' break. As I said I didn't write the article for building my ego it was gene who wrote it and posted it. It was my birthday and with the years in the business I have earned some respect instead of getting bashed when ever I speak. Guys when you've seen the changes that I have maybe you'll be able to comment instead of hiding behind some idiotic avatar.




Looks like I have touched a nerve again….but don’t be too depressed since I dish it out to all the “so called agents” in Florida from time to time…..but the position of captin save a ho was abandoned many years ago due to the fact that most whores don’t really need saving…..no one put them in a position to be abused in any way ultimately but themselves. They could have “just said no” to a lot of the misadventures that they have had the unfortunate displeasure of receiving. The porn world is pretty tame to the levels of torture inflicted in other more plain “square” jobs.

Now its time to put your money where your mouth is.....what are these alleged improvements that you have made....and please don’t give us some dumb PR spin on it.....just the facts.

BTW...you may have earned some respect with Gene.....now its time to earn some over here.....

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#325958 - 05/09/08 08:12 AM Re: Steve Seidman: Florida is a Ruined Market, he
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The reason I came back was to try and help some of these girls, yes the money is good. But scum like Eli and Brian are thieves and these girls just listen to their bull. Maybe when someone comes in that has an idea of what's really going on he will be able to help.




Help them how? Seems like you have no clue what's really going on, gramps. Maybe you should've researched the market before moving there. With that kind of foresight, nobody needs your help, but yourself. Oh yeah, that's right, you're looking for a job.
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#325959 - 05/09/08 09:16 AM Re: Steve Seidman: Florida is a Ruined Market, he
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Registered: 04/11/08
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All seem to be experts on this site so this is my last post. By helping girls means they all know what they will be doing with no surprises from some of the so called producers. Make sure that all girls are on time with test and ID's ready. My commission is only 10% just below the state approved 12% and yes I'm a licensed booker. The girls are treated like ladies not some pieces of meat that you fuckin idiots treat the ladies like, remember no matter how ditsy they still have feeling. If I'm a fool well be it, but at least I give them the respect they deserve. BYE

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#325960 - 05/09/08 09:34 AM Re: Steve Seidman: Florida is a Ruined Market, he
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All seem to be experts on this site so this is my last post. By helping girls means they all know what they will be doing with no surprises from some of the so called producers. Make sure that all girls are on time with test and ID's ready. My commission is only 10% just below the state approved 12% and yes I'm a licensed booker. The girls are treated like ladies not some pieces of meat that you fuckin idiots treat the ladies like, remember no matter how ditsy they still have feeling. If I'm a fool well be it, but at least I give them the respect they deserve. BYE




but that seems to contradict what is stated on Eli's website..."fresh faces, reliability and no surprises".

how dare you!!!!

I do know what you theme song should be for your "agency".....Tom Jones "shes a lady"!

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#325961 - 05/09/08 09:02 PM Re: Steve Seidman: Florida is a Ruined Market, he
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Registered: 10/29/03
Posts: 9489
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All seem to be experts on this site so this is my last post. By helping girls means they all know what they will be doing with no surprises from some of the so called producers. Make sure that all girls are on time with test and ID's ready. My commission is only 10% just below the state approved 12% and yes I'm a licensed booker. The girls are treated like ladies not some pieces of meat that you fuckin idiots treat the ladies like, remember no matter how ditsy they still have feeling. If I'm a fool well be it, but at least I give them the respect they deserve. BYE




Sorry Steve, nothing personal, but you sound as naive as the girls you want to represent. There's nothing wrong with showing 'em respect, but most of these girls have no self respect, not that it means they should be preyed upon by vultures. That being said, the fact you moved to Florida w/o a clue to what you were getting into just shows that it'd be unwise for somebody to use you as an agent. It ain't the same game as it was back in the 70's. Plus, what does a guy who's been divorced 6 times know about respecting women? Bye.
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#325962 - 05/10/08 02:30 AM Re: Steve Seidman: Florida is a Ruined Market, he
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Registered: 12/28/07
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Loc: The 4th International
Smutmutant wrote:
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{Nice, respectful arguments}... Plus, what does a guy who's been divorced 6 times know about respecting women? Bye.




That's what I call a finishing touch! Gold.
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