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#318451 - 04/22/08 03:06 PM Monica Foster plays the race card......
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Monica Foster [pictured] writes in her blog:

This trip out to L.A. has been completely different from the last. My initial trip out here for my "adult video career" was full of both positives and negatives, but I think that the positives outweighed the negatives due to the "newness" of it all.

On this 2nd trip out however, I feel that it's been an equal proportion of positives and negatives to the first trip, however due to the lack of everything seeming brand new and the transitions I've found that I've had to make, the negatives are feeling much heavier this time around. Overall I'm still optimistic about my choice to enter this world in this phase of my life though.

When I first arrived out to L.A. this time around, I had 2 scenes booked for my second day here. One with Jim Powers Media and another with Adam and Eve productions. Both scenes went VERY well and I enjoyed working with the male talents on each project: Seneca with the first scene and Ace with Adam and Eve.

Unfortunately though, I had a clash with a male talent I was paired with when it came to my 3rd booking which caused me to lose the $900 of which I would have been paid (also I was not given a "kill fee" by the director of the project).

I wasn't going to name names, but in this situation, I will because what happened was completely uncalled for.

The shoot was to be shot and directed by ex adult talent Alecia Silver and her husband Kenny. I had and continue to have a lot of respect for Alecia as she's achieved what I'm looking to get into - which is produce, direct, develop and distribute her own content.

However, after the incident I had on set with her husband and the male talent they'd selected, Eric Swiss - unless Alecia has someone else directing and videotaping/photographing future shoots, and her completely unprofessional and negative husband is about 1 thousand miles away, I won't be working with her in the future.

When I arrived on set for this shoot everything was cool. The hair/makeup artist was FANTASTIC! However I'm under the impression that Kenny isn't accustomed to being around many ethnic people being that the entire nature of his conversation was centered around race and ethnic people he's encountered/worked with.

Then, in walks Eric Swiss. Nice looking guy - I will give him that - unfortunately he has a very bad attitude. He didn't talk to me much prior to the shoot starting which I found unusual as every other male talent I've worked (with with the exception of a guy named Mark Ashley who walked off the set while in the middle of a Vouyer Media shoot) has been very talkative and friendly. However I brushed it off initially as him being shy. So wrong I was....

Anyways we begin shooting and after taking about 30 stills, the shooting stops, and Swiss goes to talk to Kenny about something. Then we start again and after the first set of still is COMPLETED Swiss and Kenny disappear again. I know something is up at this point but I'm not sure what.

About 10 mins later Kenny confronts me as to whether or not I have an STD (keep in mind that my medical paperwork is current and that I'm negative on all accounts of STDs). I say no, I don't. Kenny then further interrogates me as to who I'm sleeping with in my personal life that may have infected me.

At this point I felt like I was on trial in the twilight zone. If I had a personal sex life at this point in my life (which I don't) that would be one thing. If my medical paperwork wasn't clear, that would be another. If I was smelly, stinky or had something weird coming out of my vagina that would be yet another thing. However none of these situations were happening and it was becoming very clear very quickly exactly what was up.

I told Kenny that I currently don't have a personal sex life and that frankly it wasn't his business to begin with. I also told him that it's in black and white that I'm negative for STD's (and on medical record with the testing center). Kenny said that Eric Swiss felt that I have an STD and that my vagina, skin and breath all "smelled" like it. Kenny continued by saying he couldn't "put his male talent at risk" and canceled the shoot.

Now at this point Alecia TRIED to salvage the shoot by suggesting that I just do a solo. However KENNY said "no no no" and that was the end. When I left Alecia asked if I'd be returning Sunday for my solo shoot, but I didn't respond. Mainly because I wasn't sure and after everything that had happened I was upset.

I know for a fact that I don't have an odor or problem in the vaginal area (I even called one of the male talents I'd shot with the day prior to verify). but for proof I retested with AIM out here in L.A. so that I can show that I in fact do not have an STD - I should have my results Monday.

I truly in my heart feel that both Kenny and Eric Swiss have preconceived notions of black women who are in the industry and that Eric Swiss's attitude was based on the fact that he had a problem working with me to begin with simply because I am a dark skinned black woman.

Unfortunately Kenny followed Eric's lead which showed me exactly what type of person he is.

I never returned to shoot with Alecia or Kenny on Sunday. I can't and won't work with someone as biased and unprofessional as Kenny and I'll be damned if someone like that makes a PENNY off of my image. Fortunately my agency understood.

In conclusion, to all the male talents out there: if you don't want to do a scene with a girl for whatever reason (whether because you're a "porn performer snob/diva", secretly a racist, and/or not really into women to begin with), don't take the booking.

Also I now understand why not many black women get into/make it in the adult video world. You have many very ignorant racist people out there like that jerk Eric Swiss and his master Kenny who really do believe that the color of your skin somehow elevates or lowers where you are in the "human class system". Sick.

Everything happens for a reason though, and I'm glad overall that I didn't shoot a video scene with that Eric jerk, because I know for a fact that I'll have a longer and more notable career than his pattern baldness ass.

I hope that all works out for Alecia and that she wises up to how her husbands attitude will hold them both back.

The shoot would have been for a website that Playboy owns. I'm a little sad that I won't be on the site now, but I'm not too worried. Playboy is a huge company and I'm certain that they contract work out to other studios that will hire me.

I also am pissed I didn't make the money I would have from the shoots, but I'll take keeping my bit of pride, over caving in for a stupid dollar anytime and anyday.

Too many other great and legit people out there to work with
I was going to go home after this crap, but I've decided to stay in L.A. a few extra days. Stay tuned :P

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#318452 - 04/22/08 03:52 PM Re: Monica Foster plays the race card......
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In a nut shell, If you hire this whore and everything doesn't go perfect and the way she wants it to go then you are a racist.
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#318453 - 04/23/08 07:19 AM Re: Monica Foster plays the race card......
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maybe
i dunno
but maybe
the male talent that freaked on this particular shoot
didnt want to shoot with her
because of her previous shoot partners?
i dunno
but that could be it?
it might not have naything to do with race is all im saying
he couldve believed he was at risk
or really thought he saw or heard something questionable
maybe the dude was just being careful
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#318454 - 04/23/08 09:22 AM Re: Monica Foster plays the race card......
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Best drama since last night's Mexican telenovela is this one; a whore, a mope, a shot out whore behind the camera, and suitcase pimp husband orchestrating the whole fucking circus.


Edited by ivorenginedriver (04/23/08 09:23 AM)

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#318455 - 04/23/08 09:28 AM Re: Monica Foster plays the race card......
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I know for a fact that I don't have an odor or problem in the vaginal area (I even called one of the male talents I'd shot with the day prior to verify). but for proof I retested with AIM out here in L.A. so that I can show that I in fact do not have an STD - I should have my results Monday.





Apparently her results on Monday showed positive for chlamydia.
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#318456 - 04/23/08 10:23 AM Re: Monica Foster plays the race card......
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Everything happens for a reason though, and I'm glad overall that I didn't shoot a video scene with that Eric jerk, because I know for a fact that I'll have a longer and more notable career than his pattern baldness ass.





Thankfully, Monica Foster looks past the surface, but makes a stop at pattern baldness.

In an industry so heavily focused on looks that is fine, although she should not delude herself and think that to some she is more than a dirty nigger cunt.
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#318457 - 04/23/08 10:52 AM Re: Monica Foster plays the race card......
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Apparently her results on Monday showed positive for chlamydia.




Chlamydia blurb: http://adultfyi.com/read.php?ID=27724
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#318458 - 04/23/08 11:43 AM Re: Monica Foster plays the race card......
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I am not sure, but i think that guy can not be telling everybody her test results, HIPAA may apply in this case?

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#318459 - 04/23/08 01:48 PM Re: Monica Foster plays the race card......
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You would think they shouldn't have released that information. She will have their asses for that.

So, apparently the dude could smell the chlamydia in her twat and on her breath?
That's fucking nasty.

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#318460 - 04/23/08 02:21 PM Re: Monica Foster plays the race card......
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Where exactly did she play the race card?



I know, whores lie. However, if they really treated her unfairly on the set just because of her skin color, she has every right to feel wronged.
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#318461 - 04/23/08 02:30 PM Re: Monica Foster plays the race card......
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Quote:

So, apparently the dude could smell the chlamydia in her twat and on her breath?
That's fucking nasty.




Mitch should hire this guy in a heartbeat. Apparently he just waves around his magic wand and he can detect STDs.
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#318462 - 04/23/08 02:39 PM Re: Monica Foster plays the race card......
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Quote:

Where exactly did she play the race card?



I know, whores lie. However, if they really treated her unfairly on the set just because of her skin color, she has every right to feel wronged.





Common sense will prevail on this one…..if you don’t like working with women of color….then why was she contracted to do a scene in the first place anyway…….I am pretty sure that they saw her pics before hand……that’s where the producer or the “client” that they are shooting for gives the green light for the shoot.

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#318463 - 04/23/08 02:47 PM Re: Monica Foster plays the race card......
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Quote:

I am not sure, but i think that guy can not be telling everybody her test results, HIPAA may apply in this case?





I don’t think this rule applies to the "porn world"....your thinking of the "real" or square world.....

The porn world is under much higher scrutiny significantly more then the average joe in the general public.

Naturally I just could be totally off base....so a quote from porn law may be of assistance!

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#318464 - 04/23/08 03:37 PM Re: Monica Foster plays the race card......
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So, apparently the dude could smell the chlamydia in her twat and on her breath?
That's fucking nasty.


agreed. what does chlamydia breath smell like, anyway? i'm guessing it smells like ryan knox.
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#318465 - 04/23/08 04:10 PM Re: Monica Foster plays the race card......
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You would think they shouldn't have released that information. She will have their asses for that.

So, apparently the dude could smell the chlamydia in her twat and on her breath?
That's fucking nasty.




Maybe he's a hound, like those dogs who can smell cancer in your breath, or like the cat at the senior home who comes to hang out with you a week or so before you croak.
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#318466 - 04/23/08 05:31 PM Re: Monica Foster plays the race card......
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Quote:

You would think they shouldn't have released that information. She will have their asses for that.

So, apparently the dude could smell the chlamydia in her twat and on her breath?
That's fucking nasty.




Yes is it usual for everyone to be informed of your test results?! I'm sure most talent would have had this at some stage and this would have been passed on to her by one of her male costars

Whenever this kind of thing happens it should be done really quietly and the female talent should get a kill fee which is why she would have swapped to a different agency

Its easy to treat so I hope she's back performing really soon

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#318467 - 04/23/08 05:41 PM Re: Monica Foster plays the race card......
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I don't know how medical confidentiality laws apply to porn casting agents or why it would be different than if a person openly shared confidential information with any other person not directly involved in health care.

While medical records are confidential, if a person openly shares his/her medical history in a non-confidential manner, then s/he has voluntarily given up that part of confidentiality.

So, if she shared the results of her confidential test with her agent and he is not a lawyer, I would tend to believe that conversation/exchange is not covered by confidentiality rights. Although it's kind of slimy for an agent, ex or otherwise, to do it.
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#318468 - 04/24/08 12:37 AM Re: Monica Foster plays the race card......
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Quote:

Quote:

Where exactly did she play the race card?



I know, whores lie. However, if they really treated her unfairly on the set just because of her skin color, she has every right to feel wronged.





Common sense will prevail on this one…..if you don’t like working with women of color….then why was she contracted to do a scene in the first place anyway…….I am pretty sure that they saw her pics before hand……that’s where the producer or the “client” that they are shooting for gives the green light for the shoot.




Eric Swizz ballz' had'; done' work'h with' nigga' whore'z

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#318469 - 04/24/08 01:21 AM Re: Monica Foster plays the race card......
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i called her the cookie monster months ago...

who would have known her cookie, was the monster.

or that "c" is for chlamydia

lol sorry . ....i feel vindicated
unfortunately, her vag had to be rife with rot for this to happen
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#318470 - 04/24/08 12:04 PM Re: Monica Foster plays the race card......
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Quote:

Quote:


So, apparently the dude could smell the chlamydia in her twat and on her breath?
That's fucking nasty.


agreed. what does chlamydia breath smell like, anyway? i'm guessing it smells like ryan knox.




Oh yes. Chlamydia breath you fucking genious. Are you thankful to look like a cross-eyed Tranny? Good for you. Must have a fucked up looking son.

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#318471 - 04/24/08 12:10 PM Re: Monica Foster plays the race card......
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Quote:

you fucking genious.





Priceless.

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#318472 - 04/24/08 12:12 PM Re: Monica Foster plays the race card......
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thats spelled wrong?
really?
shit
ive been spelling it like that...
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#318473 - 04/24/08 12:23 PM Re: Monica Foster plays the race card......
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Quote:

Quote:

you fucking genious.





Priceless.




Ain't it priceless. Priceless. How many times have you used that one on people? What are you the grammar fairy? It's getting old just as you are.

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#318474 - 04/24/08 12:32 PM Re: Monica Foster plays the race card......
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Cryin, I may be "old," but my dick works just fine, without viagra or staring at another mope's wood. Call me the day you can say the same.

Now if you'll excuse me, I've got to go cash my Social Security check and pick up some poly-grip.

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#318475 - 04/24/08 12:36 PM Re: Monica Foster plays the race card......
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I'm sure your dick works just fine when you jerk off, alone, behind your computer to your spelling corrections or whatever it is that gets you off. Too bad you never get to share it with a lady huh?

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#318476 - 04/24/08 12:39 PM Re: Monica Foster plays the race card......
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Sounds like you're gellus, sonny.

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#318477 - 04/24/08 12:45 PM Re: Monica Foster plays the race card......
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That's where you're wrong, dipshit. I'm not jealous of a fat old troll like yourself. You're roll is to kiss some Gia ass and poke fun at misspelled words. Get a life dude.

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#318478 - 04/24/08 12:51 PM Re: Monica Foster plays the race card......
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Quote:

You're roll is to kiss some Gia ass...






I don't know what's funnier: The fact that you can't tell who's who any more, or the fact that I'm being told to "get a life" by an unwashed pissmop who keeps logging in and out because he doesn't want ankybody to know that he spends his entrie day lurking to see who's going to say something derrogartory about him. When he's not out blowing bums for crack money, that is.

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#318479 - 04/24/08 01:02 PM Re: Monica Foster plays the race card......
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Speak for yourself Troll.

All you do is Lurk on xpt day and night, looking for ways to kiss up to "baby g." You're signature move is to make bold your impish punch lines and Jesus. How fucking old are you?

Bickering with a Porn Stud that's half your age. You outta be ashamed, I'm sure you are.

Don't worry Jim, you'll always have the last word.

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#318480 - 04/24/08 01:27 PM Re: Monica Foster plays the race card......
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porn Stud




I hate to be a Nazi about it, but I'm arguing with a porn Dud. Makes all the difference.

And, yes. I freely admit that I'd much rather stare at a picture of Gia than scope out some other dude's junk. Guess I'm just funny like that.


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#318481 - 04/24/08 01:30 PM Re: Monica Foster plays the race card......
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Jeff Steward offers every loser the means to live the Ryan Knox "dream" thru American Bukkake casting calls.

Popping a load without getting wood? That's a gift from God.

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#318482 - 04/24/08 01:36 PM Re: Monica Foster plays the race card......
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Wow. An old joke by an old joke. What a suprise.

Can't wait to see what other recycled posts you have up your sleeve.


Edited by RyanKnox (04/24/08 01:41 PM)

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#318483 - 04/24/08 01:47 PM Re: Monica Foster plays the race card......
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Here's a picture for you

Old Troll Fuck.

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#318484 - 04/24/08 01:54 PM Re: Monica Foster plays the race card......
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Cryin, what's your mom got to do with this? Did she catch you masturbating again? You know how angry that makes her.

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#318485 - 04/24/08 02:05 PM Re: Monica Foster plays the race card......
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Good one. You are so witty. I'd love to see you in a yo' mama's so fat contest with some 6th grade minorities. I think you'd do really well.

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#318486 - 04/24/08 02:12 PM Re: Monica Foster plays the race card......
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And I'd love to see you pass the 6th grade. But we all know it ain't happening.

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#318487 - 04/24/08 02:14 PM Re: Monica Foster plays the race card......
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Now why do you always feel the need to bold or italic the keywords in your posts to tell a joke? Do you feel that the humor is not strong enough on its own? Or do you consider that other posters won't get it if you don't do so?

Troll on old timer.

It's been nice owning ya'.


Edited by RyanKnox (04/24/08 02:19 PM)

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#318488 - 04/24/08 02:27 PM Re: Monica Foster plays the race card......
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Quote:

Now why do you always feel the need to bold or italic the keywords in your posts to tell a joke?




It's because he knows your mind is drawn to bright shiny things and he doesn't want you to miss out.

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#318489 - 04/24/08 02:32 PM Re: Monica Foster plays the race card......
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Good one, Kind of.

Quote:

Or do you consider that other posters won't get it if you don't do so?




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#318490 - 04/24/08 02:34 PM Re: Monica Foster plays the race card......
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Quote:

Good one, Kind of.

Quote:

Or do you consider that other posters won't get it if you don't do so?








You just quoted yourself.
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#318491 - 04/24/08 02:35 PM Re: Monica Foster plays the race card......
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Quote:

Here's a picture of you

Old Troll Fuck.




Corrected. JimB style.

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#318492 - 04/24/08 02:37 PM Re: Monica Foster plays the race card......
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Ryan's losing it ...

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#318493 - 04/24/08 02:42 PM Re: Monica Foster plays the race card......
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You just quoted yourself.




Its a little over your head Fatman. All I can say is, Clever stuff.

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#318494 - 04/24/08 02:58 PM Re: Monica Foster plays the race card......
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Quote:

Quote:


You just quoted yourself.




Its a little over your head Fatman. All I can say is, Clever stuff.




Can't be too clever. You're involved.
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#318495 - 04/24/08 03:33 PM Re: Monica Foster plays the race card......
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Quote:

I'm sure your dick works just fine when you jerk off, alone, behind your computer to your spelling corrections or whatever it is that gets you off. Too bad you never get to share it with a lady huh?




at least his dick work behind a computer, yours didn't work in front of hot chicks

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#318496 - 04/30/08 08:23 PM Re: Monica Foster plays the race card......
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its always the race card, and its so pathetic knowing that we live in such a politically correct society. she needs to be kicked in the stanky cunt. honey your black its not a handicap, and if your pussy was stankin what did u expect him to do? follow thru with the scene so you could pass it on to him. get a life and some common sense....and some meds for that stank.

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