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#316638 - 04/18/08 02:27 PM
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Porn Jesus
Registered: 01/11/06
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Loc: Anchorage, Alaska
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Aids is not spread in porn by only black men.
I'm not going to weigh in on the racist/non-racist pornwhore part of this thread. Just going to play the devil's advocate with an anecdotal reference. I can think of at least 2 or 3 occasions where I've heard of a guy who purposely went out and tried to fuck as many women possible after he found out that he had AIDS. Each time, it was a black guy. I think there was also a nation-wide news story a few years back about a black guy who did the same thing.
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#316639 - 04/18/08 04:15 PM
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Porn Jesus
Registered: 04/14/06
Posts: 14755
Loc: Busy downloading [LEGALLY!]
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Picture the human race as a marathon. In America, each generation is 1 leg of the marathon. Well, the marathon started with white men running full speed at the start of the race while they held the black man from leaving the starting block. Eventually, the white men realized it was wrong and let the black man leave the starting block and enter the race. After a number of legs of the marathon, our generation now has the torch and we are running with it. Is it now fair to look back at the black man's team and wonder why they are so far behind? Is it fair to say "It is not fair to blame me for the black man being so far behind, I wasn't even born when they were preventing his team from starting the race?". Is it fair to say "that happened so long ago it no longer affects us"?
There's logic here. And, I could dwell too long on the flaws, but that is the nature of these things. No analogy is going to perfectly capture this problem.
I'm a member of a group which has been historically oppressed, segregated, denied local citizenship as they were banished from country to country for two millenia.
While I recognize and appreciate that history, I cannot allow repression be an excuse unless I'm facing it. I will not dwell on the crimes of the past when it comes to my position.
I have no patience when some ignorant white guy blames blacks and Jews for the wreck his ignorance made his life. I have no patience when some arrogant black man blames whites [and/or Jews] for the same thing.
Someone's discriminating against you in America in the 21st century? Don't whine and complain. It's against the law. Take them to court and prove it. That's the American way.
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#316640 - 04/18/08 04:25 PM
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Someone's discriminating against you in America in the 21st century? Don't whine and complain. It's against the law. Take them to court and prove it. That's the American way.
End of story.
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#316642 - 04/18/08 06:57 PM
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Porn Jesus
Registered: 04/14/06
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everyone should stop expecting black people to contribute to society in a positive way just because his or her ancient ancestors once bought and sold them.
That's an interesting point, H2C.
On Saturday I'll be reciting the following line:
"Once we were slaves unto Pharoah in Egypt."
Somehow we Jews survived.
There's no need to forgot American slavery. In fact, I think we need to remember it. But, there's no need to dwell on it as much as is done.
It's been a long time since slavery and I'd guess that almost all of the posters on this board are too young to have been directly impacted by Jim Crow segregation [which I believe is the source of America's racial problems, NOT slavery, but anyway ...].
How many Americans even have a blood relative who had anything to do with American black slavery or Jim Crow anyway? So many are Central American natives or Asian. A great many whites are descended from immigrants who came after the Civil War and had to deal with discriminations against their own groups.
I'm more than willing to fully recall slavery and Jim Crow. I validate all of the needless horrors they inflicted on people solely because of the color of their skin. But, I will not allow that memory to be used to mask failings of people who did not directly suffer. It's time to be responsible for one's own actions.
The people who engaged in slavery are all gone.
The people who enacted the Jim Crow laws are all gone.
The people who enforced these laws are slowly dying off.
Who's left to blame who was actually responsible?
My great-great-grandfather whose name I carry was killed in front of my great-great-grandmother and my 13/14-year-old great-grandmother while they were being raped by some Ukrainian thugs during one of the countless pogroms of 1905.
I don't see how I could find Gunker or Gigi responsible for this.
So, I don't see why I or anyone in my family is responsible for the plight of blacks.
Grow the fuck up.
Sorry for this rambling rant. Recently to stiffle a rant I've posted bunny pics. I think I'm going to return to that strategy.
By your logic we shouldn't acknowledge the 4th of July. All those White men that founded this great nation are dead. White man logic is to acknowledge all the good things of the past that allow us to live in this country, but ignore the bad.
WRONG. Read the BOLD. I said we should acknowledge slavery and Jim Crow. We should acknowledge everything our predecessors did incorrectly. I've felt for years that we should dump MLK day and make it a day that recognizes ALL of America's misteps.
We should acknowledge the genocide of the native americans. We should acknowledge the exclusion laws implemented against asians. etc etc etc The list is quite long.
We should not and MUST NOT forget our past - GOOD and BAD. We must learn from it.
Like when I celebrate July 4th, I recall what it achieved, and what it failed to achieve. I always read Frederick Douglass' Rochester speech, ""This Fourth of July is yours, not mine. You may rejoice, I must mourn."
But, we must not allow these unfortunate events to be used to excuse irresponsibility.
I CANNOT permit a person to blame the historic past misdeeds against groups for his/her current individual shortcomings.
If you aren't making it and want someone to blame - LOOK IN THE MIRROR. The culprit that's denying you your rightful place will magically appear.
I don't know how that trick works. Magic is fucking amazing!
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#316644 - 04/18/08 09:41 PM
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Porn Jesus
Registered: 09/07/05
Posts: 14160
Loc: NYC
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Both the donkey punch and the jackoff banana graemlins are still there.
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#316646 - 04/18/08 09:50 PM
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Bukkake Boy
Registered: 08/23/06
Posts: 635
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I CANNOT permit a person to blame the historic past misdeeds against groups for his/her current individual shortcomings.
you're killing me here, fatman. your argument hinges on the assertion that racism is ended, that it's no longer a thing we need to worry about in our brave new world. race-based discrimination is not a thing that holds people back anymore, and on the off chance that a freakish anomaly does occur, that our collective sense of righteousness will correct the problem, if only it is brought to our attention. (who's attention do you mean, by the way? i have to assume you're talking about white people here. judge joe brown, maybe?)
ideology is not a conspiracy, which makes it even more insidious. there is no secret cabal of old white men sitting in a room manipulating things to keep the black man down. it would be so much easier if it was. society itself is set up to perpetuate these ideas. we all grow up in the same america, and we all receive the same messages. it's extremely difficult to break out of the roles we are assigned to play. it's scary and uncomfortable to leave these comfort zones. (if you've seen the episode of the wire where bunny takes namond and them to the fancy restaurant) it feels wrong, because everything we've learned our whole life tells us who we are. (this is why, i'm sure, hav2cit can't even begin to fathom my argument. it goes against common sense- think of the example he brought up about black men coming out of college or prison, or why 50 cent or akon could be defined as "real", when all their so-called "realness" probably only relates to some white record executive's idea of what black people are "really like") try to imagine being black and everything you see around you, every single day of your life, tells you that you are nothing. black people are necessarily defined as "other" in american society. as in, not the norm, not the ideal. nothing. why do you think clueless white kids latch onto black popular culture? because it's other. it's a game for them to play, to be "the other." you can participate in the "exotic" lifestyle of the american negro, with none of the baggage that goes along with actually being black. i would submit that living in a country where you are "other" at best, and invisible at worst, is some fairly crushing racism to have to contend with.
but this is just my knee-jerk reaction.
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#316647 - 04/18/08 11:28 PM
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Porn Jesus
Registered: 03/22/06
Posts: 6557
Loc: 2004 - the glory days
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fuck history(bear with me for a second), jim crow and slavery, that shit only matters to academics and historians. when 70% of black babies are born out of wedlock it's a lose/lose for the black community and the entire country, that's fucked up and unacceptable. no amount of tax and spend is gonna save kids whatever color they are if they don't have a family/father.
shane diesel is my baby's daddy, btw.
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#316650 - 04/19/08 01:32 AM
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AC Cream Wannabe
Registered: 10/12/07
Posts: 571
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There should be a forum section here just for the racism crap and racial views . Either that , or make racial posts and comments only to be posted in the Cage forum only .
I haven't been here long , and i know you guys(and girls) like to argue , but this is really stupid and boring to see every thread turned into black white issues .
I think the mods should delete or ban the people who keep making posts that try to start racial hate or racial opinions .
Just my opinion . Not that it matters anyway .
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#316651 - 04/19/08 06:42 AM
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Porn Jesus
Registered: 08/09/06
Posts: 9113
Loc: red dirt state of mind
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Any thread tritone posts in becomes racially charged, because he is always racially charged. Most of the time it isn't even discussed here. It takes a real professional race baiter like him to bring it on.
It's more complicated than just slavery, Jim Crow, and the destruction of the black family. Those are factors, but no one solution is going to work and they will accept no solutions offered by whites. It's up to them and them alone to fix what is wrong.
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#316652 - 04/19/08 08:25 AM
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Porn Jesus
Registered: 06/09/03
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Any thread tritone posts in becomes racially charged, because he is always racially charged. Most of the time it isn't even discussed here. It takes a real professional race baiter like him to bring it on.
It's more complicated than just slavery, Jim Crow, and the destruction of the black family. Those are factors, but no one solution is going to work and they will accept no solutions offered by whites. It's up to them and them alone to fix what is wrong.
Can the admin create a new forum - IR and Racial Issues ? Let Tritone post there like mad.
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#316655 - 04/19/08 03:14 PM
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Bukkake Boy
Registered: 04/01/07
Posts: 717
Loc: Off the mortal coil
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Seriously, I hope tritone's intelligent enough to realise his race baiting is tearing the XPT apart...
Tritone, by all outward appearances, does seem intelligent. He just can't see past color and racial issues.
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#316660 - 04/20/08 01:31 AM
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Whoremaster
Registered: 10/21/05
Posts: 2710
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^^He's truly ugly.
1) Mistake cardboard cutout dog for real dog. 2) Mistake Simi's natural wonders for a boob job. 3) Mistake sculpture for real people.
Verdict: Time to lay off the drugs.
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#316661 - 04/20/08 06:03 AM
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Porn Jesus
Registered: 06/09/03
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I wouldn't say it's tearing XPT apart. I look forward to him derailing threads and then getting attacked by everyone. Sometimes it makes my entire week.
I admit it. I like pounding on Tritone, but not in IR Style. We could add a forum section called - Sociological Phenomena. We can put the IR, racism, whore group behavior, etc, in that forum. Have a fix for rescividism among black youth! Bam! Post to that forum. Object to your favorite slut sucking on VDiesel's tater? Bam! You gotta forum! All separate and equal.
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#316664 - 04/20/08 08:59 PM
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ADT regular
Registered: 04/18/08
Posts: 13
Loc: Los Angeles
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My fiance (Alisandra) are both in the industry (marginally, we both have other means of support) & have a beautiful relationship despite how we choose to supplement our income. As we see it, it's just work... Performing is aloof & mechanical & we both remain detached & professional at "work"...
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#316666 - 04/21/08 02:38 PM
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Porn Jesus
Registered: 12/28/05
Posts: 4726
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^^He's truly ugly.
1) Mistake cardboard cutout dog for real dog. 2) Mistake Simi's natural wonders for a boob job. 3) Mistake sculpture for real people.
Verdict: Time to lay off the drugs.
Interesting how you keep reading all my posts though.
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#316667 - 04/21/08 02:38 PM
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Porn Jesus
Registered: 12/28/05
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^^He's truly ugly.
It's a sculpture, but he's a pretty ugly one. The artist's name is Ron Mueck.
Sorry for derailing the derail.
Thanks I didnt stare at it to notice it was a sculpture, I glanced and noticed how ugly he was. Enough said about that.
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