Good God Zen...I've seen birth first hand (a couple of times), and believe me when I say that there's absolutely NOTHING hot about it.
i believe he was strictly speaking about the degradation factor on this one. zen, i'll see you in the outer ring of the seventh circle
I figured as much, and I'm into degradation as much as the next guy, but giving birth is the equivalent of being stuck in the middle of a horror movie that goes on for 14hours.
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