This thread is interesting, controversial, somewhat touching and somewhat gay, all at the same time...

It's full of irony too, that someone like Holly who makes her living devoted to capturing and celebrating this "transient, fleeting quality" harbors inside her such feelings as those she described above. Yet unlike most people who esposue such sentiments, I tend to think Holly is more sincere than most people on this subject, although I find Holly's own self-deprecating feelings about her own looks to be somewhat disingenous....Holly, you know you are totally fucking hot, more so than 90% of the girls you shoot, just admit it

However, as regards Mum Suze...and Holly KNOWS this to be true...I have long felt a compelling interest and affection for Suze, going back to my teen years whacking off to all Suze's Photo shoots in the Hustler/Penthouse/Club etc mags that my Grandfather used to have in his bookstore, that my Brother and I had a decent side business allowing our friends 25 cents a peek for 5 minutes at a time letting them in the back door mini-warehouse where they used to be stored before hitting the shelf. Plus, Suze was indeed totally fucking hott back in her day, and in fact, much of my interest and attraction to someone like Hiolly, as it were, is a vicarious retro-fantasy towards her mum. I just have this thing for English Female Beauties who are somewhat perverted...

But as for all this "SHARK!" bullshit, I can only hearken to my Spinal Tap associates degree.... "The review on Shark Sandwich was merely a two word review, it just said SHIT SANDWICH"