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#314294 - 04/09/08 06:03 PM
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Porn Fucking Master
Registered: 09/19/05
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To Spunko and The Unknown Pervert, this type of shit didn't happen under the Clinton/Gore administration, and dudes, watch out lest you drown in De-Nile.
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#314297 - 04/09/08 06:37 PM
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Porn Jesus
Registered: 12/28/05
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It is no longer "we", it is now "John and Evil Angel". Good move.
I'll work at Evil Angel forever and stand behind Evil Angel movies forever.
I'm not a co-owner of the company, which is the reason I'm not also named in the indictment. Otherwise, I would have worded that post as 'we'.
For clarification, I will stand by John and the company 100% through this. I believe in the movies that I have a part of getting out to the public, and will do whatever it takes to help defend them, my husband and Evil Angel in court.
Very well said and you stand by your man and your company or your husbands company, I wish you guys nothing but the best of luck, honestly. 
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#314298 - 04/09/08 07:02 PM
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Luckily, Tipper Gore never really held political office, only the bully pulpit of, er, Vice Lady.
Actually, she was pretty quiet while she was "Vice Lady." She shot her big mouth off when she was nothing more than some Senator's wife. Cueball Carvile & Co. kept her on a pretty tight leash.
Of course, as noted above, with all of Bubba's troubles, they really didn't have much choice...
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#314299 - 04/09/08 10:01 PM
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Registered: 08/04/06
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Don't forget if Gore had become President then his Vice President would have been Joe Lieberman.
You know,the guy who thinks the government should be able to censor movies,music and video games....for the children,of course.
The only reason that Clintons' administration didn't try to score points with the Feminists by going after porn was because they were already up to their necks with partial-birth abortion and 'don't ask,don't tell'. Had the Whitewater investigetion not gone the hummer route then they would most likely have tried to score P.R. points for themselves and porn would have been an easy(and likely) target. Bothe the Feminists and the religous nuts would have applauded. Win/win with almostno downside. For the politicians anyway.
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#314302 - 04/10/08 09:45 AM
Re: J Stagliano, Evil Angel Charged 8 Obscenity Co
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Max Hardcore Prison Bitch
Registered: 07/28/07
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I find this whole thing strange. I don’t consider Evil Angel to be a high profile company in the realm of Girls Gone Wild. John’s success is known within the industry, but I doubt the man on the street knows anything about him. That said, industry jealousy creates strange bedfellows. Who is to say whether or not someone from another company sent some links to the feds to put things in motion. Or it could simply be an individual John met at a public function who got a wind of John’s success and decided to turn the screw.
Only John knows.
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“I'll be sending my check out first thing tomorrow.”-- Safado
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“$12.41”--Smokey
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#314303 - 04/10/08 10:33 AM
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Internet Tough Guy
Registered: 01/27/07
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Has anyone else heard that John is now making employees call him "Oh Captain, My Captain"? I think this kind of behavior combined with his silly sailor suit is causing confusion in EA's office.
Everyone is expressing sorrow for John, but what about Joey and Jay? Belladonna apparently got a free ride and EA took the hit for her poop trailer.
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#314304 - 04/10/08 10:39 AM
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Rob Black's Crack Pipe
Registered: 04/09/08
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There are two types of producers in the xbiz....Those who fight for their first amendment rights,, and those who hide behind the first amendment. Will Stagliano stand and fight, or will he cop a plea like most porners do in this situation and then claim they did it because the fight was too expensive. No need to speculate on which he will do. We will all see in the end. Good luck Mr. Stag, either way youre screwed. 
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#314305 - 04/10/08 11:30 AM
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Porn Jesus
Registered: 04/14/06
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In speaking about this to a friend who is a devout Christian and dislikes porn, he was offended by the name "Evil Angel".
While it's a far-fetched theory on why they may have been targeted, I thought it worth mentioning.
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#314307 - 04/10/08 03:23 PM
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Max Hardcore Prison Bitch
Registered: 07/28/07
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Saw this on the LIB message board. Can anybody verify the stuff about Max and Rob? I know that both still have cases pending. Max in Florida, and I don't believe Rob is out of the woods with the feds.
The Colonel wrote:
Indictment is the fed’s dirty trick. Here’s is how it works: they target a scene, one line of dialog or a snapshot at the back of the box, go after the producer and distributer, and after years of building the case and anticipation,the case gets thrown out of court. Here is the twist: even though they know more likely they can’t get a guilty verdict and put a smut peddler behid the bars, but they’re doing it, because they know years of legal struggle, overwhelming stress and thousands of dollars attorney fees will eventually bring down the producer, and sometimes bankrupts him and puts him out of the business, and also draws and defines the red lines for everyone else, from top to bottom. Look at Max Hardcore for example. He thought he was the smart guy, he thought he could get away with fisting and traumatizing naive new commers and pissing on them.The feds went after him several times, he’s not in the jail, but he’s completely broke and fucked in the ass. He can no longer afford to produce content on a consistency level, he lives off his old content, the titles he puts out through JM Productions are re-releases of his old material, and he’s also on clips.com, selling his scenes for $5.00 each. Of course you know how clips.com shares the sales profit, right? It’s 60% for the site, 40% for the producer; in other words, he only makes 2 bucks on each of his scenes. Another example is Robert Black who thought his indictment was a blissing from the sky that will define him as the ultimate bad ass/saviour of the adult industry. Bullshit. Now he’s so fucked that he can’t even release anything on DVD, he shoots cheap scenes with retard skanks whom he picks up on craiglist and sexy jobs, gives them $100.00 in cash and a handful of pills to do a blow job scsne and put it on hotmovies.com. All in all, the feds don’t tend to put smut peddlers in jail and pay $40.000 a year for their expenses, they tend to cripple the industry, turn people against each other, and burn the whole house down. And looks like they’re winning.
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“I'll be sending my check out first thing tomorrow.”-- Safado
“How much money has come in till now from the fanbase?”-- Freestylah
“$12.41”--Smokey
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#314309 - 04/10/08 04:05 PM
Re: J Stagliano, Evil Angel Charged 8 Obscenity Co
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@ McCluskey: Both cases are still pending. I don't think Max is in anywhere near as bad a shape as the Colonel makes it out to be. Rob is pretty much fucked, though. As I understand it, he's flat broke and his case has been stalled since the Supreme Court refused to hear his appeal of the 3rd Circuit's December, 2005 ruling on the Lawrence issue.
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#314310 - 04/10/08 04:18 PM
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Porn Jesus
Registered: 04/17/04
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i'm bullshit i just finished sending uncle sam a check for a spartanly-optioned range rover and it's going to:
1-effectively ensure an domestic business that was presumably in the black when tons aren't will face some degree of interruption in actually employing americans AND being a nice addition to the tax base. same one that pays feds retire after working maybe a third of their life.
2-fucked over the people running the company who do helpful things-they're giving you top-bracket tax revenue that someone else either will be relieved from paying or if facing hardship have some of that come their way to address need. makes your life easier government.
3-wealthy people, even if they sell vile trannyporn, generally are ALREADY reinvesting their blood/semen-money to some schlub in kansas. in this case, their edifice-complex was a show that funneled cash AND employment(starving actors ate, sets built, etc.) into the nation's economy. so we have jobs in chatsworth and vegas that won't be there if you manage to convict john.
4-you're spending my money and i wasn't in on it being used to pay lawyers to make sure to eradicate a business and individuals that employ people and won't immediately be replaced if you imprison them and think there's going to be someone that will pay what they are next year when you collect to pay your salary and pay for fucking foodstamps and antibiotics for kids who were fucked enough to be born into an absence of means. fuck, daddy could have been a pornstar if you didn't ruin the job-opening that used to be there, now he's in the prison system and latrell's going to think gold teeth are cool.
wonderful. i love making fun of what i find repulsive about some of their movies but burning other people's money to take them to trial in hopes that other people's money might be needed again should you "win" by sending someone who created jobs that feed creepy sex offenders and keep them off of the streets?
that's the most-shortsighted thing possible. EXACTLY when did you catch ALL OF THE CHILD PORNOGRAPHERS AND NEATLY TUCKED THEM UP IN THE CELL YOU'RE PROPOSING TO PUT JOHN IN?
do your job with the pornographers EVERYONE but actual pedophiles find to be engaging in something harmful enough to be felonious INSTEAD of suing the above-ground ones you can actually find to serve with arrest. weak. incompetent. typical
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#314311 - 04/10/08 04:43 PM
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I'm going to need 18 hrs and A full cup of coffee to get with that post.
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#314312 - 04/10/08 06:09 PM
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Porn Jesus
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hey, a brotha gotta vent when the irs man be taking money. i should have just run hookers, claimed 14k and collected my welfare and a big block of that cheese ryan knox gets every month but is always too tweaked-out to eat.
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#314313 - 04/10/08 06:14 PM
Re: J Stagliano, Evil Angel Charged 8 Obscenity Co
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Max Hardcore Prison Bitch
Registered: 07/28/07
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Check this out. If you go to the third link below for the DOJ website you will be referred to Morality in the Media when you want to file an obscenity complaint.
http://www.usdoj.gov/criminal/optf/
http://www.usdoj.gov/criminal/optf/links/citizens_guide.html
http://www.usdoj.gov/criminal/optf/links/faq.html
Seems to me a real conflict of interest when the US Gov supports bias press releases written by the president of MIM
NEWS RELEASE from MORALITY IN MEDIA, Inc. NEW YORK (August 13, 2007)
Robert Peters, President of Morality in Media, had the following comments in response to an article by Neil Lewis, "Federal Effort on Web Obscenity Shows Few Results," which appeared in the N.Y. Times on August 10, and an op ed article by Stephen Bates, "Outsourcing Justice, That's Obscene," which appeared in the Washington Post on July 15.
Morality in Media (MIM) should be honored that a project it launched to combat Internet obscenity has been criticized in short order by two of our nation's leading left-leaning daily newspapers. We must be doing something right; or perhaps the fear is that we may do something right in the near future, if the liberal press doesn't come to the rescue of hardcore pornographers.
MIM launched the ObscenityCrimes.org website in June 2002 to provide citizens with a convenient means online to report possible violations of federal Internet obscenity laws. The site is patterned after www.cybertipline.com, which was also launched by private citizens and which allows citizens to report possible violations of sexual exploitation of children laws.
Complaints submitted to ObscenityCrimes.org are forwarded to each U.S. Attorney where a report originates and to the Justice Department in Washington. As of August 2007, over 66,000 reports had been submitted to ObscenityCrimes.org, despite very little funds to promote the site.
In 2002, MIM also retained the services of two retired law enforcement agents (with extensive experience investigating Internet pornography cases) to follow up on complaints submitted by citizens to ObscenityCrimes.org and to prepare their own investigative reports which describe in detail the promotional material and sexual conduct that the agents observe on various "adult" websites.
One might think, therefore, that the Times and Post would have long ago published articles highlighting Morality in Media's fine work in combating pornography, urging citizens to make complaints and urging the Justice Department to enforce Internet obscenity laws.
Instead, on July 15 the Post published an op ed article by Stephen Bates attacking Morality in Media for its views on a wide variety of subjects that have nothing to do with the ObscenityCrimes.org project and the Justice Department for delegating its authority to an "outfit" like Morality in Media.
If the Justice Department had in fact delegated to Morality in Media the authority to determine which cases will be prosecuted, Mr. Bates would have a point. But the Department hasn't done that. The Justice Department determines which citizen complaints (if any) it will investigate and ultimately prosecute. Like it or not, Morality in Media has no say in those determinations….
In the N.Y. Times article of August 10, Mr. Bates again bad mouths ObscenityCrimes.org. In particular, Mr. Bates says that MIM's "religious cast, the…constitutional issue of free speech and the outsourcing together made a mockery of the First Amendment, chilling freedom of expression."
While not all of our nation's founding fathers were devout Christians, most were certainly "religious." Abraham Lincoln and Rev. Martin Luther King were also "religious," as is Barak Obama. Jimmy Carter and Bill Clinton were "religious," as is Hillary Clinton….
And if obscenity is unprotected by the First Amendment and if the determination as to what is or isn't obscene is ultimately made by the Courts, how can a project that forwards information to the Justice Department make a mockery of the First Amendment and chill "freedom of expression?"
Mr. Lewis's article in the Times repeats another of Mr. Bates' misstatements - namely, the Justice Department is "outsourcing a search for obscenity."
ObscenityCrimes.org provides citizens with an opportunity to report websites that they believe are or may be violating obscenity laws…
Mr. Lewis's article did get two things right. First, I am concerned about the explosion of hardcore pornography viewed only by "consenting adults." Viewing pornography is linked to variety of harms, including sexual addiction, the breakup of marriages, the breakdown of morality, and sexual crimes against adults and children. The Supreme Court has also held that…"consenting adults" is not a defense to an obscenity prosecution.
And second, I am troubled by the fact that Justice has publicly praised ObscenityCrimes.org on a number of occasions, but to my knowledge has not initiated a single prosecution in response to a citizen complaint submitted to the site. I am hoping that will change soon…
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“My money is on the way.” -- Jim B
“I'll be sending my check out first thing tomorrow.”-- Safado
“How much money has come in till now from the fanbase?”-- Freestylah
“$12.41”--Smokey
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#314316 - 04/10/08 07:11 PM
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The search function is your friend.  But, personally, I'm a big fan of the I Love Titties thread. That one needs a resurrection. 
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#314319 - 04/10/08 08:51 PM
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I wish I could search for things within a given poster.
Now THAT would be nice.
But a simple search for "Morality in Media" got the two links I posted above, plus a few others.
You're right, though: It ain't perfect by a long shot.
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#314320 - 04/11/08 01:43 PM
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Rob Black's Crack Pipe
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Wow-- I'm crossing my fingers for you guys! It didn't bother me so much when Max and Rob were hit with this, but you and John are such nice people... 
This is exactly what I am talking about. I'm not here to give you a bunch of shit Holly. You and your mother are very talented and have done some great work for us.
But you make the type of adult entertainment the religious nuts are specifically after. We are just easier targets for the government right now....
Believe me, I know this. When Max was indicted I actually posted here on XPT that even though I didn't like his movies, I still supported him 100%. I don't make exceptions in regards to who I think should be prosecuted for obscenity. I was only expressing my regrets that the Staglianos have to face this because I consider them friends of mine, that's all.
Understood. My apologies and I wish you the best.
Paully
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#314321 - 04/11/08 02:16 PM
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AC Cream Wannabe
Registered: 09/07/03
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In speaking about this to a friend who is a devout Christian and dislikes porn, he was offended by the name "Evil Angel".
While it's a far-fetched theory on why they may have been targeted, I thought it worth mentioning.
It's interesting that your friend would be offended, since the Bible refers to Satan as an "Evil Angel" But in the upside-down corkscrew mentaility of the Bush DOJ, it would not be a surprise that, that could play a part in why they picked them to prosecute.
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#314325 - 04/11/08 06:37 PM
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Gay For Pay
Registered: 04/19/03
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Arraignment Date Set For Stagliano
Evil Angel establishing defense fund to fight federal obscenity charges
By: Mark Kernes
Posted: 04/11/2008
WASHINGTON, D.C. - John Stagliano, indicted earlier this week on eight counts of interstate transportation of obscene material, making content available to minors, as well as a forfeiture count, will be arraigned in U.S. District Court for the District of Columbia on Monday, April 21.
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The hearing will take place at the E. Barrett Prettyman United States Courthouse, 333 E. Constitution Ave. NW, Washington, D.C., before Judge Richard J. Leon.
"He's just going to enter a 'Not Guilty' plea," advised Karen Stagliano.
According to the D.C. District Court website, Judge Leon was appointed to the U.S. District Court in February, 2002, by President Bush. He received his A.B. degree from Holy Cross College in 1971, where he was a classmate of future Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas; was a full-time law professor for four years at St. John's Law School, and in 1987, he was the Deputy Chief Minority Counsel for the U.S. House Select "Iran-Contra" Committee. In 1994, Judge Leon was also Special Counsel to the U.S. House Banking Committee for its "Whitewater" investigation.
Stagliano will be represented by Allan Gelbard, who last year won a multi-million dollar piracy suit for Evil Angel Productions against Canadian distributor Kaytel, and a reliable source has informed AVN that Cincinnati-based First Amendment attorneys H. Louis Sirkin and Jennifer Kinsley will also be on the defense team. There will probably be a fourth attorney on the defense team as well.
But that's not the only development.
"We're going to be establishing a legal defense fund," Ms. Stagliano said. "We're moving forward with this on our own, but we've been receiving an amazing outpouring of support from fans and others just asking, 'Hey, we want to be a part of this. We want to help you fight this fight. What can we do?'"
"We're going to be talking to the Free Speech Coalition today," she continued, "about setting up the fund such that we will guarantee that any money that we receive that is above and beyond what we would need for this specific case will go to Free Speech or some other legal defense type situation."
Although the fund's Web page has not yet been created - it's expected to go live on Monday, with a comment section and information on how to contact legislators about the case - it will be linked from Evil Angel's home page, evilangel.com.
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#314326 - 04/11/08 08:04 PM
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Gay For Pay
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"We're going to be establishing a legal defense fund," Ms. Stagliano said. "We're moving forward with this on our own, but we've been receiving an amazing outpouring of support from fans and others just asking, 'Hey, we want to be a part of this. We want to help you fight this fight. What can we do?'"
"We're going to be talking to the Free Speech Coalition today," she continued, "about setting up the fund such that we will guarantee that any money that we receive that is above and beyond what we would need for this specific case will go to Free Speech or some other legal defense type situation."
Although the fund's Web page has not yet been created - it's expected to go live on Monday, with a comment section and information on how to contact legislators about the case - it will be linked from Evil Angel's home page, evilangel.com.
Is EA already out of money? The case hasnt even started yet and the are already asking for donations. 
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#314327 - 04/11/08 08:05 PM
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Please correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't recall Jeff shilling for "contributions," and the charges against him were far more likely to stick, being tried in Arizona and all.
Just sayin.
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#314328 - 04/11/08 11:16 PM
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Rob Black's Crack Pipe
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Arraignment Date Set For Stagliano
Evil Angel establishing defense fund to fight federal obscenity charges
Damn. Why didn't we think of that. Oh wait, we did and everybody said you had it coming. Good to see people in this industry realizing we need to protect each other now. Better late then never.
Shit, we've got a court date in just over a month. It would of been nice to have everybody support us all along the way but instead.... oh fuck whats the point.
BTW We have already set up, dealt with and researched a great argument through Sirkin and Kinsley, they are our attorneys. You should get a pretty good deal since this aint there first rodeo.
Thank the Crazy Cowboy, The yellow couch and the Fucking Constitution. Oh and Lil baby Jesus too.
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#314329 - 04/11/08 11:21 PM
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Charges against Max are far more likely to stick as well. Northern District of Florida, ya see.
So I ask you... WHO needs those donations? I guess John really got taken to the cleaners by Judge Wapner.
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#314330 - 04/12/08 01:32 AM
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Someone sm*rter than me please explain this:
If the Miller case established that speech ruled obscene was not protected under the 1st amendment... and "obscene" speech was essentially defined as anything that didn't pass the SLAPS test, or conform to community standards of decency...
then why exactly do we have a 1st amendment? To "protect" serious scientific, literary, artistic, and political speech that conforms to community standards?
And it's a fucking tragedy that so many short-sighted producers are content to see their unsavory competitors fed to the lions, without any eye on the bigger picture. Hang together or you'll all hang separately dipshits.
Best of luck to John and Karen.
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#314331 - 04/12/08 02:27 AM
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Is EA already out of money? The case hasnt even started yet and the are already asking for donations.
I can't recall who was saying it (it sounded like bitter sniping at the time, so I didn't make a note of the name), but I do recall someone saying that John Stagliano had taken a rather expensive bath on the Fashionistas live show in Las Vegas.
There seems to be the occasional piece on Luke's site about certain EA directors not being too impressed with the money they are making through EA, and taking on work elsewhere under an alias...but then you have to consider the source.
All told, I very much doubt that the departure of Jules Jordan and his emergence as a direct competitor has done EA's bottom line any favours either...we're talking both eagerly-awaited new product and a very profitable back catalog that has just gone bye-bye there. 
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#314332 - 04/12/08 04:04 AM
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Porn Fucking Master
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Paully-I really do wish you the best of luck in your case, and believe that industry people ought to support the defense of your right to prevail against the heavy hand of the Feds. Hope that isn't the real you in the videos, though, even whores are human beings.
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#314338 - 04/13/08 03:06 PM
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if you know that things like Squirting *cough* *piss* and milk enemas are gone to get you in problems with fucking Feds, why you do it? is like cross the railroad when the train is passing
We're talking about a guy calling himself "Buttman".
Is that how they will address him in court?
Judge: Mr. Butman or is it Butt (first) and Man (last)? Or is it Man (first) Butt (last)?
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#314340 - 04/13/08 06:03 PM
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if you know that things like Squirting *cough* *piss* and milk enemas are gone to get you in problems with fucking Feds, why you do it? is like cross the railroad when the train is passing
We're talking about a guy calling himself "Buttman".
Is that how they will address him in court?
Judge: Mr. Butman or is it Butt (first) and Man (last)? Or is it Man (first) Butt (last)?
I think based on the "Wopner precedent", they'll call him Mr. Stagliano.
Judge: Ok, Mr.Stagliano...
Mr. Stagliano: Buttman. Call me Buttman.
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#314342 - 04/13/08 06:23 PM
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I think based on the "Wopner precedent", they'll call him Mr. Stagliano.
Judge: Ok, Mr.Stagliano...
Mr. Stagliano: Buttman. Call me Buttman.
You didn't watch that People's Court episode, I presume.
No, I didnt.
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