Meh. If they'd had a plan, one that worked, nobody would give a shit, Saddaam would be gone, Iran would be surrounded and Cheney would've had a shitload of cheap oil to play with. Everybody would've been happy. But they didn't listen: To Gen. Shinseki, to Iraqi ex-pats and opposition leaders, to Poppy Bush's people, to ANYONE. The only one who had any luck in his sector was Petraeus, when he commanded the 101st Airborne. He listened to his subordinates, listened to the local chieftains in his sector, and won the hearts and minds of most Iraqis in his sector. That's why I say give the guy a chance. He's the only one with a clue.