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#311800 - 03/28/08 08:09 PM Long Island looks to secede
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Sawicki presents 51st state proposal for Long Island

Looking to whack Albany with a political two-by-four, Suffolk Comptroller Joseph Sawicki and Dowling College agreed to launch a new feasibility study on the economics of Long Island seceding to become the 51st state.

Sawicki and Martin Cantor, director of Dowling's Long Island Economic and Social Policy Institute, announced the six-month study at a breakfast Friday on the Oakdale campus before local business and government leaders.

Both Sawicki and Cantor acknowledged such a split may be tough to sell politically to the rest of the state, but it is important to raise the issue to underline how much the region contributes to state operations and how much less it gets back -- a gap of $2.9 billion.



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#311801 - 03/28/08 08:35 PM Re: Long Island looks to secede
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Somehow I get a feeling that the City and Upstate will breathe a sigh of relief if this occurs. While they are at it, can they take Staten Island?

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#311802 - 03/28/08 11:16 PM Re: Long Island looks to secede
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If we give angry Muslims (and Tritone) Long Island + Florda, will they then shut up and be happy about selling the Middle East's oil to Exxon/Shell/BP?

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#311803 - 03/29/08 02:20 PM Re: Long Island looks to secede
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Somehow I get a feeling that the City and Upstate will breathe a sigh of relief if this occurs. While they are at it, can they take Staten Island?





I used to live on Staten Island and I'd say it's more like Jersey than anything else.
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#311804 - 03/29/08 02:24 PM Re: Long Island looks to secede
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Dina Lohan for Senator if L.I. becomes its own state.
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#311805 - 03/29/08 03:59 PM Re: Long Island looks to secede
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Somehow I get a feeling that the City and Upstate will breathe a sigh of relief if this occurs. While they are at it, can they take Staten Island?





I used to live on Staten Island and I'd say it's more like Jersey than anything else.




Yep. Only raised it because a few years ago there was a movement to secede from NYC but I don't know what came of it. Last big news I heard out of there was the ferry crash in 2003 or so (and that was on the Manhattan side if I remember right).
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#311806 - 03/29/08 04:49 PM Re: Long Island looks to secede
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Yep. Only raised it because a few years ago there was a movement to secede from NYC but I don't know what came of it. Last big news I heard out of there was the ferry crash in 2003 or so (and that was on the Manhattan side if I remember right).




The movement went nowhere and, in any event, would have been a fucking disaster for the Island had it happened. (Taxes WAY up, services way down.)

The crash happened on the Island side, when the Assistant Captain blacked out and the Captain was off studying for some Coast Guard exam the next day.

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#311807 - 03/29/08 05:00 PM Re: Long Island looks to secede
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The State of Lawn Guyland....it does have a ring to it.
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#311808 - 03/29/08 05:05 PM Re: Long Island looks to secede
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Just raise the price of black leggings, Louis Vuitton bags, scrunchies, and hairspray. Problem solved! No need to increase taxes.
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#311809 - 03/29/08 05:06 PM Re: Long Island looks to secede
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The State of Lawn Guyland....it does have a ring to it.




I have an idea for the state symbol.



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#311810 - 03/29/08 07:04 PM Re: Long Island looks to secede
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The State of Lawn Guyland....it does have a ring to it.




I have an idea for the state symbol.






Ah, sweet LIE. I parked a car on thee once.
Now, the GSP and NJT, those are roads you gotta love.
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#311811 - 03/29/08 09:51 PM Re: Long Island looks to secede
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What is the GSP? Did you mean GCP?
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#311812 - 03/29/08 10:00 PM Re: Long Island looks to secede
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What is the GSP? Did you mean GCP?




The GSP is the Garden State Parkway. It runs the length of NJ, near the shore in the south and more central in the north, and becomes part of the NY Thruway when it enters NY state.


It can be a traffic NIGHTMARE of biblical proportion.


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#311813 - 03/29/08 10:06 PM Re: Long Island looks to secede
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The State of Lawn Guyland....it does have a ring to it.




I have an idea for the state symbol.






Ah, sweet LIE. I parked a car on thee once.
Now, the GSP and NJT, those are roads you gotta love.





That is NOT the LIE. The LIE is NEVER that wide and has no tolls except where it begins/ends for the Midtown tunnel. There it has only 3 lanes breaking out to 7-8 toll booths with 100 ft or so of the entrance ... with never more then fucking 4 or 5 working/open.




EDIT: The other tell-tale sign that it's not LI ... there are NO CARS darting in and out from lane to lane when the smallest gap appears to possibly get ahead of someone.

Everyone is content with their lane and behaving in an orderly fashion.

THAT IS NOT HOW LONG ISLAND WORKS!!



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#311814 - 03/30/08 09:44 AM Re: Long Island looks to secede
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Damn and I thought Dallas traffic is bad...man I bet road rage accidents must be commonplace there.
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#311815 - 03/30/08 10:57 AM Re: Long Island looks to secede
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That is NOT the LIE. The LIE is NEVER that wide and has no tolls except where it begins/ends for the Midtown tunnel. There it has only 3 lanes breaking out to 7-8 toll booths with 100 ft or so of the entrance ... with never more then fucking 4 or 5 working/open.




Where could it be? Canada? Europe somewhere? This picture has piqued my interest.
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#311816 - 03/30/08 11:27 AM Re: Long Island looks to secede
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Damn and I thought Dallas traffic is bad...man I bet road rage accidents must be commonplace there.




Not really. The only people I've ever seen real "road rage" from were outsiders. It's more a competition in which you don't acknowledge the guy you just passed; there's no "owning", if you will.

And, once you're past him, his interest shifts to the guy he's going to pass, and yours to holding your position or your next victim.
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#311817 - 03/30/08 11:57 AM Re: Long Island looks to secede
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The only people I've ever seen real "road rage" from were outsiders. It's more a competition in which you don't acknowledge the guy you just passed; there's no "owning", if you will.

And, once you're past him, his interest shifts to the guy he's going to pass, and yours to holding your position or your next victim.




Fatty speaks truth here. If I've ever seen any kind of "road rage," its from somebody outside the tri-state area. The natives all have a kind of tunnel vision. It's a New York thing, I suppose.

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#311818 - 03/30/08 02:01 PM Re: Long Island looks to secede
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Where could it be? Canada? Europe somewhere? This picture has piqued my interest.




I´m pretty sure it´s not in Europe. Two reasons:

1. Type of vehicles (lot of van-type vehicles)
2. I count at least 14 lanes going in one direction. No highway/motorway in Europe is that big (as far as I know).
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