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#311581 - 03/27/08 09:21 AM How To Ruin A Trip To The Museum
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Those crazy Christians are at it again...nothing like lying to kids and avoiding scientific truths. You gotta see this video if you have a few minutes. These douchebags need to stopping taking the Bible so literally.


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#311582 - 03/27/08 10:36 AM Re: How To Ruin A Trip To The Museum
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Hey VOD ... did you see the Nova episode about the Intelligent Design text book trial that was brought by parents in a PA school district. I know that you said you live in PA so it might have been a hot topic though I think it was on the other side of the state from you.

It was a fantastic show. The parents & I think maybe some teachers protested that the reading of a statement challenging evolution and suggesting "intelligent design".

An interesting twist was that the case was heard by a judge appointed by "W" - so it seemed that there might be some leaning to the crazy right afoot.

They were able to prove the court that "intelligent design" was simply a substitution for Creationism ... partially since they actually showed that the text was "jondra-ed" in a mass replace from the original version of the textbook to the current version. [A bad misspelling synched it ... I don't remember what it was, but even Donny Long would have blushed - it was so obvious].

The judge slammed "intelligent design" as not science - and he's taken a bunch of shit for it from the right.

Link to info:
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/id/

Again: Great episode ... Brave Judge.
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#311583 - 03/27/08 10:46 AM Re: How To Ruin A Trip To The Museum
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Sad. Ignoring empirical evidence (like radiometry), because 'we don't have time to cover everything'.
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#311584 - 03/27/08 11:43 AM Re: How To Ruin A Trip To The Museum
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I used to think when they were talking about intelligent design, they meant Ikea. Sometimes I'm a stupid whore.
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#311585 - 03/27/08 12:15 PM Re: How To Ruin A Trip To The Museum
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I used to think when they were talking about intelligent design, they meant Ikea. Sometimes I'm a stupid whore.




In the past two weeks girl you have had about 10 sig worthy quotes. You must be in love or something.
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#311586 - 03/27/08 03:07 PM Re: How To Ruin A Trip To The Museum
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I used to think when they were talking about intelligent design, they meant Ikea. Sometimes I'm a stupid whore.




Here's a freaky story about Intelligent Design/Creationist numbnuts trying to take over the Texas State Board of Education. After California they have the biggest say about what textbooks are available, since publishers don't want to produce different versions of textbooks for different states.

http://search.dallasobserver.com/2008-03-20/news/battle-against-teaching-evolution-in-texas-begins/

And this quote is hair-raising!

"What really disturbs me most of all is how the average citizen doesn't really care. The entire education system is about to be subverted, because this isn't just about science. This is about a group of people who are trying to dictate what should be taught in every subject, not according to research or facts, but according to their own whims and personal beliefs."

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#311587 - 03/27/08 03:08 PM Re: How To Ruin A Trip To The Museum
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Sad. Ignoring empirical evidence (like radiometry), because 'we don't have time to cover everything'.




Empirisicm never bothered bible thumpers.
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#311588 - 03/28/08 05:35 AM Re: How To Ruin A Trip To The Museum
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Fatman - I did not see that episode, although it sounds very interesting. I actually haven't heard of this happening in PA either...that's pretty crazy. I was under the impression that church and state (who runs the schools) were supposed to be separate, but apparently that only applies some of the time.

I would be outraged if the school district tried to teach intelligent design/religion to my kids. Unless you enroll your kids in a private or church run school, there should be absolutely no mention of God or religious beliefs...what is this, 1952??
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#311589 - 03/28/08 08:06 AM Re: How To Ruin A Trip To The Museum
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IIRC, the incident Fatty refers to happened in SW PA, near the W. VA border. The Jeebus freaks lost in the 3rd Circuit.

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#311590 - 03/28/08 12:09 PM Re: How To Ruin A Trip To The Museum
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I was under the impression that church and state (who runs the schools) were supposed to be separate,





That really wasn't the question. Even the god-squaders conceded the point that Creationism is religion and religion can't be taught in public school.

The question was is "intelligent design" science or religion. The plantiffs, and the scientific community, believe that "intelligent design" is just Creationism is a quasi-scientific wrapper.

The judge found that the plantiffs proved "ID" was religion, and so textbooks that include "ID" cannot be used in public schools. Since the school board who put the books into the school was completely voted out of office, the case was not appealed, and it stopped there to be challenged again by another set of crackpots.


And, Jim ... Dover is in southeast/southcentral PA in York County between Baltimore and Harrisburg. But, it certainly is a very religious Christian area.
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#311591 - 03/28/08 12:37 PM Re: How To Ruin A Trip To The Museum
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... Dover is in southeast/southcentral PA in York County between Baltimore and Harrisburg. But, it certainly is a very religious Christian area.




That must be a little bible belt area there.
PBS (NOVA) had a good documentary some time back -"Intelligent Design on Trial." It covered the process by which creationists re-crafted themselves as ID'ers in order to skirt some court decisions barring them from promoting creationism in schools.

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/id/


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#311592 - 03/28/08 12:43 PM Re: How To Ruin A Trip To The Museum
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That would be the one Fatty linked to above.

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#311593 - 03/28/08 12:53 PM Re: How To Ruin A Trip To The Museum
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As you can see here Pat Robertson was very upset with the outcome of the school board election. He expects some time in the next thousand or so years that god will smite these people with a natural disaster because of it.
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#311594 - 03/28/08 01:04 PM Re: How To Ruin A Trip To The Museum
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As you can see here Pat Robertson was very upset with the outcome of the school board election. He expects some time in the next thousand or so years that god will smite these people with a natural disaster because of it.




Yesterday I looked for the clip on YouTube and couldn't find it.

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#311595 - 04/10/08 08:55 PM Re: How To Ruin A Trip To The Museum
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#311596 - 04/10/08 08:58 PM Re: How To Ruin A Trip To The Museum
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they were protesting at the museum before we left LA
too
they were pissed off about
get this
the butterfly thingy
theres this like, greenhouse thing where you can walk around wiht all these butterflies everywhere
they were protesting i guesss
bcecause it sdoesnt adhere to "intelligent design" and there were of course tons of school children
they were actualy pissed that the museum was teaching kids about evolution
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#311597 - 04/10/08 09:56 PM Re: How To Ruin A Trip To The Museum
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Considering that there are over 20,000 different Christian cults in the world, whose version are they suppose to teach? Then what about all the other crackpot organized religions who will want their shot?

Then these idiots have the gall to say that "America is a country founded in Christianity." Obviously they were too busy praying that the pregnancy tests showed up negative to pay attention in history class (that's a sideways dig at the Christian supported Abstinence Programs that are the only federally funded sex education programs available in public school).

I wonder how enthusiastic these American Taliban would be to tear down the separation of Church and State if the government was allowed interfere with their practice of religion as much as their religions interfere with the operation of government?

Hmmm, isn't that the reason people came here for in the first place? To avoid religious persecution. I'm not sure since I couldn't hear the teacher over the chanting fanatics outside the classroom.
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