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I love gun debates, warms my heart.
It's interesting to read the different perspectives from around the country re: floof and jim b. I totally relate with floof but Jim b's initial point is spot on.

That being said, a trained rifleman is the very definition of mass murder. Concealment goes out the window when someone can reach out and touch you from over 100 yards.
Now add the component of automatic feed for close up spray and pray which modern technology now affords us, and its easy to realize why automatic weapons should never be legalised. Licensed.... maybe.



Yeah, but Lou, what you're talking about is a sniper, which is pretty fucking rare in our society. The Lee Boyd Malvos and Lee Harvey Oswalds of this world are going to get their hands on those weapons no matter what safeguards are in place. Snipers are determined, usually demented and more often than not well above average in intelligence. They will always find a way, and it's usually the person you least suspect.

What I'm talking about is cheap, readily available hardware that the average 15-year-old can pick up without that much time or effort. I'm talking about poorly made handguns that have been rejected by most of the armies and police forces in the world, no matter how poor the country. These are the people who have hijacked the once-proud NRA: manufacturers of shitty "Saturday Night Specials," who don't put nearly as much thought into the craftsmanship of their weapons as they do into finding new ways to line the pockets of various members of Congress.

Determined fucks are going to find themselves weapons no matter what we permit or allow. But if we can choke the supply of $50 Gats to teenagers, we can cut the number of firearm deaths in this country considerably. No one ever hears of a liquor store being robbed with a Kalashnikov...