What exactly are we arguing about?

It comes down to a (more or less) continuation of the past 8 years (McCain) or something different (Obama/Clinton).

I prefer something different, and will go further, to insist upon voting Democrat for all seats of Representatives and Senate.

And then, once they are held accountable, hold the "conservative" Democrats accountable, and vote them out with young, progressive, Iraqi War vets in 2010.

And then, maybe nationalized health care will be established, preventing 50% of personal bankruptcies.

And then an establishment of a progressive tax rate, where, after your first five million, the additional millions are taxed at a high rate to fix up that $9 trillion national debt and pay for the airlifted coffins of the poor...

Some of those might have to dump their KBR/Blackwater/Titan holdings...so be it...