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#300402 - 02/12/08 06:38 PM
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Porn Jesus
Registered: 04/19/04
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What's his full name again?
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#300403 - 02/13/08 06:37 AM
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That's a really telling picture you've got there... 
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#300405 - 02/25/08 01:33 PM
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Porn Jesus
Registered: 08/09/06
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#300406 - 02/25/08 02:23 PM
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Pretty fucking bad, but eblab's still gay for posting the one above.
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#300412 - 02/25/08 05:10 PM
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Porn Fucking Master
Registered: 05/18/06
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i spent half the morning listening to rush limbaugh and the other half jerking off.
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#300415 - 02/26/08 08:46 AM
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Porn Fucking Master
Registered: 05/18/06
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ha. you know i'm saving myself for kerkove and i'd never give away drugs like ever.
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#300416 - 02/26/08 01:40 PM
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Rob Black's Crack Pipe
Registered: 01/02/08
Posts: 143
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ha. you know i'm saving myself for kerkove and i'd never give away drugs like ever.
Ever have an odd moment were you completely misread something?
I saw kerkove and read kermitlove.
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#300420 - 02/27/08 08:00 PM
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Porn Jesus
Registered: 09/23/04
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If he can pull it together to win, I'm guessing that Obama will end up as a one-term president, like Jimmy Carter.
I think whomever wins this election is a one term President. I don't think it will be Obama. (And of course not Hillary).
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#300423 - 03/01/08 12:11 AM
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Bukkake Boy
Registered: 04/02/07
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elab i may have a shirt wrapped around my head and be singing along to the boys are back in town, but what the fuck is so appealing about a president who wants to tax us back into the 70's, dollar is already struggling which is why my familys been getting rich buying gold, but for f's sake, you read up about this guy he wants carter like taxes in an economy that is fucking falling apart, what real issue do you side with this guy on??
the yes we can is bullshit pal, (btw the BOyyyyyyssssss are back in town) im shirtless swinging a towel over my head deal with it
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#300424 - 03/01/08 08:21 AM
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Rob Black's Crack Pipe
Registered: 01/02/08
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elab i may have a shirt wrapped around my head and be singing along to the boys are back in town, but what the fuck is so appealing about a president who wants to tax us back into the 70's, dollar is already struggling which is why my familys been getting rich buying gold, but for f's sake, you read up about this guy he wants carter like taxes in an economy that is fucking falling apart, what real issue do you side with this guy on??
the yes we can is bullshit pal, (btw the BOyyyyyyssssss are back in town) im shirtless swinging a towel over my head deal with it
Um. Hi this is reality calling. Bush's tax cuts are what PUT us here. Giving the top 10% of the population more money doesn't stimulate the economy. They aren't the ones spending money.
In addition to that there is currently no check system functioning for the outsourcing of not only semi decent low income employment but the mid range employment is being hit as well. Tech sector jobs are being filled by non americans at a breakneck pace.
People laugh because call center jobs were the main ones being outsourced (at least until they had to deal with a tech issue and got a sing song indian they couldn't understand on the phone.) But for low income people those jobs were gold. They paid 3-5 dollars an hour more then minimum wage and would hire people with no experience. Most call centers were located in areas that were economically depressed so a 10.00 an hour job was crazy.
And those are the people spending money, the ones that were stimulating the economy.
Give people who earns 100k or more a year 10 grand it ends up in a bank, however you give someone earning 20k a year 5 or 10 more and they buy things. Like houses. Those are those things you keep hearing about being foreclosed left right and center.
The only thing that bush has accomplished is making the middle class disappear. There are more people living at poverty level or below in this country then there were even under reagan.
We went from having a budget surplus, btw the budget is what those taxes things pay for, to being in the hole again with fucking china bailing us out daily.
Yeah bush's taxes are working great.
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#300425 - 03/01/08 09:57 AM
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Porn Jesus
Registered: 04/19/04
Posts: 7888
Loc: Carpathian Mountains
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Obama will fix America
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#300426 - 03/01/08 09:59 AM
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Obama will fix America
If by "fix" you mean "neuter," you are correct.
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#300427 - 03/01/08 10:43 AM
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Rob Black's Crack Pipe
Registered: 01/02/08
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Obama will fix America
That implies he will be elected. Don't count on it. There are a lot of people opposed to a woman president, take that number and cube it and you have the number that oppose a black president. He has as much chance as nader. He'll grab more votes but he won't win.
Unless Hillary landslides soon, McCain will be moving into the White Horse next year.
And I don't want to hear the tired argument about how many blacks there are in America, it's a non issue because they have an 18% voter turn out historically. 18% ain't gonna do shit.
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#300429 - 03/01/08 11:54 AM
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AC Cream Wannabe
Registered: 10/26/07
Posts: 538
Loc: Canada
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it amazes me after the last eight years of hell any of the American public could even fathom having another republican in the white house for a long while. or even someone part of the same old establishment. it kind of reminds me of that whole typical scene on "COPS", when the abused woman is screaming at the police. Not to take away her boyfriend, who just got arrested for assault for beating on her. its almost as if some of you people seem to like getting shit on by your politicians. Ours are equally a joke but we have a tighter leash on the situation... i must be high to try and argue politics with americans. 
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#300432 - 03/01/08 08:22 PM
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Porn Jesus
Registered: 01/07/06
Posts: 4268
Loc: Portland
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Taxes.
The Republicans run on even more tax cuts. The same taxes they've been cutting since 1980 when our National Debt was $1 trillion.
Now, in 2008, the National Debt is $9-$10 trillion.
Those aren't tax cuts, dolts, those are tax deferments.
Voting Republican is akin to carrying an ever-increasing balance on your Chinese bank-issued credit card whilst cowering in your basement-bunker awaiting the next Al-Qeada attack (they...are...EVERYWHERE!!!). As evidence of their inherent aptitude towards national threats, the Republicans gave us the Cheney Anti-Terrorist Task Force (did not meet until AFTER 9/11), "My Pet Goat", "Mission Accomplished", and the mercenary/privatization of the U.S. armed forces ("Iraq for Sale"...watch it; then watch "Why We Fight").
Voting Democrat is appointing intelligent, reasonable adults to try to incrementally fix the mess that the Reagen Revolution wrought. And they will fail due to Republican sabotage such as:
"House approves new taxes on big oil
Associated Press - February 27, 2008 6:23 PM ET
CAPITOL HILL (AP) - The House has approved $18 billion in new taxes on the largest oil companies. Democrats backing the legislation, noted record oil prices and rising gasoline costs in a time of economic troubles.
The money collected over 10 years would provide tax breaks for wind, solar and other alternative energy sources and for energy conservation.
It would cost the five largest oil companies an average of $1.8 billion a year. The companies earned $123 billion last year.
Senate Democratic leaders said they would put the bill on a fast track and try to avoid a Republican filibuster.
The White House says the bill is not fair to the oil industry. If it passes, President Bush is expected to veto it.
Republicans say watch out for higher prices at the pump if the higher taxes are imposed."
A $1.8 billion bite on $123 billion of earnings...
Ya, sounds like time for a rare Bush Jr. veto...
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#300434 - 03/01/08 09:11 PM
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Kurt Lackwood's Fluffer
Registered: 08/04/06
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Well,the Conservative philosophy is for lower taxes and lower spending.
Reagan got Congress to lower taxes but Congress went apeshit on the spending front. Budget increases,courtesy of a Dem controlled Congress went stratospheric,and the increase in Defense spending accounted for a minority of that increase.
With Bush however,he got some tax cuts but didn't get any real spending cuts to go with. Made worse because Congress was controlled by the Republicans. Seriously,first time in decades you have the ability to get the conservative agenda through easy and the Republicans turned into Democrats on crack. Morons.
The Republicans got the beating they deserved in '06 and Bush deserves all the criticism he gets for it. His leadership skills(or lack of them)are a joke.
That being said,it took him Six years to cost his party control of Congress. Clinton accomplished that feat in Two. I guess Bubba McHilljack really was a better President.
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#300435 - 03/02/08 03:26 AM
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Porn Jesus
Registered: 01/07/06
Posts: 4268
Loc: Portland
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Well,the Conservative philosophy is for lower taxes and lower spending.
Bullshit; in my lifetime, the Republicans have never spent less than the Democrats.
"The president had promised to cut taxes, and he did. Within six months of taking office, he pushed a trillion dollars worth of tax cuts through Congress.
But O'Neill thought it should have been the end. After 9/11 and the war in Afghanistan, the budget deficit was growing. So at a meeting with the vice president after the mid-term elections in 2002, Suskind writes that O'Neill argued against a second round of tax cuts.
“Cheney, at this moment, shows his hand,” says Suskind. “He says, ‘You know, Paul, Reagan proved that deficits don't matter. We won the mid-term elections, this is our due.’ … O'Neill is speechless.”"
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2004/01/09/60minutes/main592330.shtml
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#300437 - 03/05/08 06:57 AM
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Porn Jesus
Registered: 08/09/06
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#300440 - 03/05/08 09:51 AM
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Porn Jesus
Registered: 04/19/04
Posts: 7888
Loc: Carpathian Mountains
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Can someone make all these Obama pics a little darker?
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#300441 - 03/05/08 05:02 PM
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AC Cream Wannabe
Registered: 12/02/05
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Loc: the ATL
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CLINTON WINS!! CLINTON WINS!! CLINTON WINS OHIO,TEXAS,AND RHODE ISLAND!! FUCK YOU TO ALL YOU MCCAIN NEO-CON PIECES OF SHIT!! HE WILL LOSE TO CLINTON OR OBAMA
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#300443 - 03/05/08 06:03 PM
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Porn Jesus
Registered: 09/23/04
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A week and a half ago Clinton held 20 point leads in OH and TX and ended up squeaking by.
Her mention today of a "shared ticket" is all the proof you need that the Clintons have lost.
Hopefully going forward we are free of Clintons and Bushs.
edit: I deleted some words.
Edited by Bornyo (03/05/08 06:04 PM)
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#300444 - 03/06/08 07:29 AM
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Registered Sex Offender
Registered: 07/09/06
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Clinton didn't actually win Texas. Even though the popular vote went in her favor, Obama took more delegates. The Texas Dem Party apportions primary and caucus votes as it sees fit. In this election, they saw fit to award more delegates to affluent white suburbs and areas populated by blacks, while effectively disenfranchising the state's Hispanic voters.
With this kind of bullshit and the existence of superdelegates, who can really say that the Dem party is the party of the people?
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#300445 - 03/08/08 12:07 PM
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Porn Jesus
Registered: 06/09/03
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Clinton didn't actually win Texas. Even though the popular vote went in her favor, Obama took more delegates. The Texas Dem Party apportions primary and caucus votes as it sees fit. In this election, they saw fit to award more delegates to affluent white suburbs and areas populated by blacks, while effectively disenfranchising the state's Hispanic voters.
With this kind of bullshit and the existence of superdelegates, who can really say that the Dem party is the party of the people?
The Mexicans got fucked? Welcome to America. Superdelegates are meant to keep the peasants from going nuts and bringing up a candidate that's popular but too loopy to make it on the national stage and to keep them from hijacking the party, a la Chicago 1968. Almost like the electoral college keeps the hoi polloi from going too far and the senate keeps the house from diving off a cliff on every piece of legislation. Undemocratic? Probably, just as much as the electoral college sham.
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#300446 - 03/08/08 05:42 PM
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Porn Jesus
Registered: 01/07/06
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Loc: Portland
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I hope the Supreme Court somehow doesn't get involved again; if they do, Alan Keyes will become the Democratic nominee.
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#300448 - 03/14/08 04:02 PM
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If that's his Christian Pastor, maybe he'd be better off admitting he's a muslim. 
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#300449 - 03/14/08 08:16 PM
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AC Cream Wannabe
Registered: 10/26/07
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or maybe its proof of how clownish modern american christian society is . lol
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#300451 - 03/14/08 09:53 PM
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AC Cream Wannabe
Registered: 10/26/07
Posts: 538
Loc: Canada
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fundamentalism.
its clownish, funny, kind of scary...leaves you feeling gross and afraid...
do you understand the statement now?
or shall i bust out my flash cards
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#300453 - 03/15/08 08:27 PM
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Porn Jesus
Registered: 01/07/06
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"Bush's Last Fans -- The Evangelical Right, the Facilitators of War and a Sadly Diminished McCain Frank Schaeffer Thu Mar 13, 11:22 PM ET President Bush was on my old stomping grounds this week. Back in the early 1980s I was also the keynote speaker at the NRB (National Religious Broadcaster's) convention. According to the New York Times, (March 12, 2008): President Bush delivered a rousing defense of the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan on Tuesday, mixing faith and foreign policy as he told a group of Christian broadcasters that his policies in the region were predicated on the beliefs that, freedom was a God-given right and 'every human being bears the image of our maker...' Calling freedom a 'precious gift,' Mr. Bush said: 'The liberty we value is not ours alone. Freedom is not America's gift to the world; it is God's gift to all humanity.' His words were punctuated by shouts of 'Amen.' *** On the same day as the NRB/Bush story quoted above was published the Times also happened to report that William J. Fallon, the commander of American forces in the Middle East whose outspoken public statements on Iran and other issues put him at odds with the Bush administration, is retiring early. Admiral Fallon upset the Bush administration with comments that according to the Times; "emphasized diplomacy over conflict in dealing with Iran, that endorsed further troop withdrawals from Iraq beyond those already under way and that suggested the United States had taken its eye off the military mission in Afghanistan." A senior administration official said that Fallon's comments, "left the perception he had a different foreign policy than the president." As he has for the last eight years Bush disregards the advice of his military leaders when they don't agree with him. (Disclosure: My son volunteered for the Marines in 1999 and served in Bush's wars so this is personal.) As if answering admiral Fallon In his NRB speech Bush said; "The decision to remove Saddam Hussein was the right decision... It is the right decision at this point in my presidency, and it will forever be the right decision." These days most Americans would have booed Bush's statement, but not the right wing evangelicals at the religious broadcasters convention. *** The rest of us, including many moderate Christians, aren't laughing. We know that we've had eight years of failed Republican/Bush misrule-by-fear that's produced a war in Iraq without end, and that risks losing the war in Afghanistan, and that has given us an American president instigating -- and even defending -- torture. After he was cheered Bush returned the favor. He praised the broadcasters and promised to veto any legislation that would reinstitute the so-called "fairness doctrine," which once required broadcasters to give air time to opposing views. Bush has also done what he can to slow a congressional investigations into the larceny that typifies the many "successful" religious broadcasters with their "nonprofit" twenty-thousand square foot homes, jets and fleets of luxury cars. *** The irony is that the people McCain is appeasing these days in order to "unite" his party, are the same people who in 2000, spread (and believed) the racist nonsense about his black adopted child being illegitimate etc. The people he must suck up to now undid his candidacy then. The sad truth is that the 2000 election was McCain's moment. The right wing evangelicals (and the Republican establishment) handed the presidency to Bush and the rest is history. Now McCain's moment has past, swept away by a river of needlessly shed blood and by the politics of fear. Any group that--post-Iraq five years on, and post-our failure to secure Afghanistan six years on -- is still being willingly influenced by the likes of the religious broadcasters such as James Dobson etc., along with their secular fellow travelers such as Rush Limbaugh, William Kristol, Ann Coulter and the rest of the proponents of global war without end, should be beyond the pale. Any candidate that must cater to the fundamentalists (some of whom belong to the National Religious Broadcasters) who are saying that Barack Obama is a Muslim and/or that he might even be the Antichrist! -- should be repudiated. This is the company that McCain now must keep. Independent voters, moderate evangelicals, other religious believers and nonbelievers, Democratic Party members and authentically conservative Republicans must work to make sure that either McCain stands up to the evangelical right or that he loses. It's long past time that McCain's old enemies and now his new "friends" -- inherited from Bush, and otherwise known as the "Republican base"--are sent packing. The rest of us have a job to do: undoing the damage done to our country by the born-again president whose miserable presidency was brought into existence by and aided and abetted by the religious right. Barring some unlikely radical reform of the Republican Party before November, the best thing that could happen to the Republican Party is to lose. Then they might have a chance to repent and change. The lesson is this: 4000 American war dead, 40,000 wounded, countless killed Iraqis and our country in hock to the Chinese (and other lenders) tells us that next time the religious right likes a presidential candidate vote for the other guy. And if you hear those religious broadcasters cheering be afraid, be very afraid." http://news.yahoo.com/s/huffpost/20080314/cm_huffpost/091266
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#300454 - 03/19/08 10:48 AM
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Porn Jesus
Registered: 09/23/04
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Obama is a long-legged mack daddy pimping 54d's and his mamma is a white woman So says this black preacher.I hate youtube links and I hate political discussion on pornboards but this is eye-opening.
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#300456 - 03/19/08 12:03 PM
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"I haven't trashed Obama. His African, in-heat father went a-whoring after a trashy white woman. He was born trash. I said he was born trash...
---Rev. Manning at 1:42
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I'm not afraid of Ted Kennedy, or that little Caroline, or anybody else. I'm here to tell you that you are an impossible group of people. You don't respond to honor or integrity. And for the people in this (African American) Community in particular, look out here at all these stores and condos and all this new construction that has gone on in this community over the last ten years. Bill Clinton Did That!!! (He put) $250,000,000 --- a quarter of a Billion dollars--- into this community as a departing gift from his presidency. He gave a quarter of a Billion Dollars to this community; up came all the new the restaurants, stores, financed the condos... (he) made this for you... and now you're trashing him??? You hypocrites!!! You spineless-you-know-what!!! You don't have enough sense to pour piss out of a boot and you're talking about Obama as your President. You're despicable. No honor. No integrity... If a man has done for you what he has done for you and then you trash him the way you do, you are less than a maggot. But that's how Black Men are...
---Rev. Manning 2:10 - 4:15
I had to stop there, I was laughing so hard. I'll come back to it later. 
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#300457 - 03/19/08 12:34 PM
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#300458 - 03/19/08 01:35 PM
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Porn Jesus
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re: McCain's Preacher and that article- the writer gets by with the normal anti-Christian bias up until his thesis: Quote:
Now, in the 2008 presidential election, John McCain has aggressively courted, and enthusiastically accepted, the political support of John Hagee, who calls the Catholic Church "the great whore" and a "false cult system" and McCain's accusation, in the 2000 election, has come back to haunt him ; by his own measure, John McCain has chosen the Sixteenth Century.
That's exaggeration and lies and it's hard to take him seriously afterwards.
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#300459 - 03/19/08 01:44 PM
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Max Hardcore Prison Bitch
Registered: 04/21/07
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re: McCain's Preacher and that article- the writer gets by with the normal anti-Christian bias up until his thesis:
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Now, in the 2008 presidential election, John McCain has aggressively courted, and enthusiastically accepted, the political support of John Hagee, who calls the Catholic Church "the great whore" and a "false cult system" and McCain's accusation, in the 2000 election, has come back to haunt him ; by his own measure, John McCain has chosen the Sixteenth Century.
That's exaggeration and lies and it's hard to take him seriously afterwards.
Also no one really gives a shit if someone bashes Catholic's , including most Catholics.
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#300462 - 03/19/08 04:47 PM
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Porn Jesus
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The only real difference between Catholics and Baptists is the Catholics will say "Hello" when they run in to each other at the liquor store.
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#300463 - 03/19/08 07:57 PM
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Porn Jesus
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Baptists frighten me and yet they give free soda
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#300464 - 03/19/08 09:39 PM
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soda is the Devil's drink
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#300465 - 03/20/08 01:34 AM
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Porn Jesus
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soda will make spaces in between your teeth.
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#300467 - 03/20/08 02:10 PM
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Registered Sex Offender
Registered: 07/09/06
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The only real difference between Catholics and Baptists is the Catholics will say "Hello" when they run in to each other at the liquor store.
The original joke is about Baptists and Methodists. Catholics drink like fish, so the joke really doesn't work with Catholics in it.
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#300469 - 03/21/08 04:04 PM
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The original joke is about Baptists and Methodists. Catholics drink like fish, so the joke really doesn't work with Catholics in it.
Hence the Catholics say hello to their fellow parishioners, whilst the Baptist duck and hide their faces in shame, but go to the liquor store none the less. 
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#300471 - 03/21/08 08:19 PM
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Liun's right on this one, H2C. It's a very old joke.
I was going to post a few examples, but ...
Just google the words: baptists methodists liquor store
You'll bring up more than enough hits to see it's true.
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#300472 - 03/21/08 08:22 PM
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Yes, but repressed Catholics share most of the same beliefs as the repressed Baptists, with the biggest exception being alcohol. Hence the hilarity in the hypocrisies. Methodists makes no sense in that joke.
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I don't give a shit about the way you heard the joke, I told it the way I've heard it, and it definitely sounds like you haven't run into the Methodists that I have. Fucking carpet baggers.
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#300473 - 04/08/08 03:53 PM
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The only real difference between Catholics and Baptists is the Catholics will say "Hello" when they run in to each other at the liquor store.
Alabama Baptists Butthurt Over "Wine Trail
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It's not just wine that draws scorn in conservative Alabama, where more than a third of the state's counties remain dry 75 years after Prohibition and Southern Baptist churches claim about a quarter of the state's population.
The state regulates all alcohol sales, and it drew criticism in October for opening a state-run liquor store in downtown Birmingham on a Sunday afternoon. The governor intervened, and the agency said it wouldn't happen again.
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#300474 - 04/11/08 03:55 PM
Those Pesky Polls...
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An Obama lead now won't mean a thing if, come the general election, he ain't got that swing. And polls show about 23% of white Democrats in Ohio, Pennsylvania and Florida would defect to McCain. Hil would lose just 11%. SOURCE
Ten bucks says that number's a lot higher when you factor in the Bradley Effect.
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#300475 - 04/18/08 08:53 AM
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Seems he took $$$ from a notorious Domestic Bomber:Fact check: Obama and former radicalSPRINGFIELD, Ill. - Democratic Sen. Barack Obama is defending his relationship with William Ayers, a college professor who was once part of the radical Weather Underground and spent years as a fugitive after a 1970 explosion that killed three members. Obama suggests he barely knows Ayers and shouldn't be held accountable for anything Ayers said or did. But others, including Democratic rival Hillary Rodham Clinton, say the relationship gives Republicans an issue to exploit against Obama. The spin:Obama was asked about Ayers as part of a discussion of his patriotism in a presidential debate Wednesday night in Philadelphia. Obama responded that Ayers is "a guy who lives in my neighborhood" but hasn't endorsed him and doesn't regularly exchange ideas with him... Clinton seized on Ayers as "an issue that certainly the Republicans will be raising." She pointed out that Obama and Ayers served on a charity board together and brought the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks into the mix by noting that an interview in which Ayers denied any regret for the radical group's bomb-making happened to appear on the day of the attacks. The facts:Ayers was part of the Weather Underground, a radical group that claimed credit for explosions at the U.S. Capitol, the Pentagon and more. Originally known as the Weathermen, the group took its name from a Bob Dylan lyric: "You don't need a weatherman to know which way the wind blows." In 1970, a bomb the group was making — to use against an Army base — exploded at a New York townhouse, killing three members. Ayers fled and spent years as a fugitive. He met and married fellow fugitive Bernadine Dohrn during that period. The two surfaced in 1980... Ayers now teaches at the University of Illinois at Chicago, and Dohrn heads the Children and Family Justice Center at Northwestern University. Ayers has advised Chicago Mayor Richard Daley on education issues. Ayers and Obama both served on the board of directors of the Woods Fund, a Chicago-based charity that focuses on developing community groups to assist the poor. A variety of business executives, journalists and academics serve on the board. When Obama was organizing his first race for the state legislature, the incumbent lawmaker he hoped to replace introduced him to her supporters and urged them to back Obama. One introductory event took place at the home of Ayers and Dohrn. Ayers contributed $200 to Obama's legislative campaign in 2001...SOURCE+ + + Today's New York Times also has this nifty little quote: (George Stephanopoulos and Hillary Clinton) also referred to statements by Mr. Ayers in an article in The New York Times on Sept. 11, 2001, that Mrs. Clinton said were “deeply hurtful to people in New York.”
“I don’t regret setting bombs,” Mr. Ayers said then. “I feel we didn’t do enough.”+ + + Indeed. 
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#300476 - 04/18/08 05:05 PM
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Ayers is an asshat but I'm not going to crucify Obama because Ayers donated $200 to his campaign.
$200 towards the cost of campaigning for the office of U.S. Senator=a drop of piss into a bucket approximately the same size as Yellowstone National Park.
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#300477 - 04/18/08 05:15 PM
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Yeah, but Bam-Bam is the one who's prancing around pretending to be Holier-Than-Thou.
More importantly, it's not like he got blindsided by the contribution: He knew full well who Ayers was when he took the money, and took it anyway. $200 or $2,000, he knowingly took money from an admitted domestic terrorist who, to this day, is unrepentant about his actions. In my book, there ain't no difference between him and Tim McVey.
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#300481 - 04/18/08 10:47 PM
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Obama has had no harm done to his poll numbers since this
Right. 'Cause that's all that matters is Bam-Bam's poll numbers.
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#300484 - 04/19/08 12:42 AM
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Sorry, Gunker, but to me, knowingly taking money from a terrorist who wishes he'd planted more bombs is a real issue. It's not a question of electibility, or elitism. It's a basic question of right or wrong, and Bam-Bam failed that test miseably.
But I give you credit, Gunker: At least you didn't try to make the inane arguement that it doesn't matter as long as it doesn't hurt the guy's poll ratings. Funny, I thought that's what Bam-Bam was always accusing the Clintons of doing.
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In my book, there ain't no difference between him and Tim McVey.
There is the minor detail that one still has a pulse while the other does not.
You can thank a Clinton for the fact that one of 'em is pushing up daisies. You know Bam-Bam wouldn't have the stones to do it.
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#300485 - 04/19/08 05:45 AM
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please stop calling him bam-bam. it was funny like once.
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#300489 - 04/19/08 10:39 AM
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when i said that it didn't hurt his poll numbers i meant blah, blah, blah...
Ummm... right. Whatever you say, eblab. Maybe you can help Bam --er, sorry GiGi-- Jughead "elaborate" upon the "bitter" comments, while you're at it.
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#300490 - 04/19/08 11:46 AM
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Ummm... right. Whatever you say, eblab. Maybe you can help Bam --er, sorry GiGi-- Jughead "elaborate" upon the "bitter" comments, while you're at it.
How about this as an explanation. He's the anti-Reagan.
Reagan picked up "Reagan Democrats" by telling the embitterred whatever they wanted to hear, as often as they wanted to hear it. Along with the pabulum of "morning in America" they were fed the nonsense of the Christian right until they equated the two just like Pavlov's dog and the bell.
Nearly 30 years after his election win, Republicans are still looking for a moutainside to carve Reagan's face into, and trying to exploit the same prejudices (yes, I said prejudices) that Reagan's handlers took advantage of.
Obama claims to be running a campaign on the basis that he is trying to break the paradigm of bullshit, often to his own detriment. One example is the unique way he LIMITS his own campaign contributions. Another way might be by telling the truth, even if it is not popular. Interestingly Romney tried to do the same thing (in a slightly different way), and is now on the sidelines because of it.
His comments in San Francisco were a "gaffe" in the true sense of the word - "Accidentally telling the truth".
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#300492 - 04/19/08 08:42 PM
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What exactly are we arguing about?
It comes down to a (more or less) continuation of the past 8 years (McCain) or something different (Obama/Clinton).
I prefer something different, and will go further, to insist upon voting Democrat for all seats of Representatives and Senate.
And then, once they are held accountable, hold the "conservative" Democrats accountable, and vote them out with young, progressive, Iraqi War vets in 2010.
And then, maybe nationalized health care will be established, preventing 50% of personal bankruptcies.
And then an establishment of a progressive tax rate, where, after your first five million, the additional millions are taxed at a high rate to fix up that $9 trillion national debt and pay for the airlifted coffins of the poor...
Some of those might have to dump their KBR/Blackwater/Titan holdings...so be it...
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#300497 - 05/06/08 09:00 PM
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yeah well i was refering to the present occupant 
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#300498 - 05/06/08 09:08 PM
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Great T-shirt doing the rounds in NYC, Eblab ... 01.20.09
Bush's Last DayIn red, white & blue, of course!  There's a whole websitte of stuff I found when I got home ...  I put 01.20.09 on my door and I'm going to write it on the back of every envelop I mail!  Click to see the countdown clock!! http://www.bushslastday.com/
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#300499 - 05/07/08 08:05 AM
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things were way worse under the last president...
You mean the current president, right?
Forget it, Fatty. The cocksucking cheerleader doesn't have a clue what he's talking about.
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#300500 - 05/07/08 08:34 AM
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speaking of not knowing what one is talking about...i noticed you changed the title to "Laughing in November" so are we to take it that you believe the American people will elect McCain...the senile GWB 3rd termer? You sir are clearly not paying attention to reality...but go ahead...call me a gay cheerleader or whatever...but don't even PRETEND your fake lawyering ass understands what is going on in American politics. btw happy birthday...it has been a year since you crawled back with a new name after being thrown off the board and 11 months since everyone figured out you were Raul hahaha 
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#300501 - 05/07/08 08:37 AM
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One hundred dollars says Obama loses in November. You on? I'll wait until you check and see if your wretched, alley-dwelling alki ass can scrounge up that kind of scratch.
BTW: As for paying attention to reality, which candidate was it who broke all spending records in Pennsylvania history, was on TV 24/7 and still got mugged by 10 points?
Crow all you want about Jughead winning in a contest with a majority black electorate. The fact remains that he cannot win in Oio, Pennsylvania and Florida, and without those states, he's toast.
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#300503 - 05/07/08 12:31 PM
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I don't like McCain either, Fatty, but I'm certainly not going to vote for a wet-behind-the-jug-ears Pollyanna who thinks it's wrong to let Iran know that if they nuke Israel (or any of our allies) that we will obliterate them. Seriously, what world is this guy living in that he fails to grasp that the mullahs look upon diplomatic efforts as weakness. He's Jimmy Carter with a really deep tan, right down to the Dumbo ears and goofy, toothy grin. I may end up casting a write-in ballot. I did that for Rudy-Dinkins II, when I couldn't bring myself to vote for either of them.
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#300505 - 05/07/08 01:05 PM
Re: Laughing in November
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I think the economy is going to tank, and the mid-east is only going to get far, far worse.
Agreed. If Clinton was the opportunist people claim she is, she'd bow out now "for the good of the party," sit back and watch Jughead go down in flames, then spend three years savoring McCain's discomfort trying to clean up GWB's various messes, until the fourth year, when the Richardsons and the other fair weather friends come courting her. That's if she was smart, mind you. Somehow, I don't see her doing it.
But, back to your other point: Obama can register all the new voters in Florida he likes and it won't make a bit of difference. We've all seen that state's history of using subterfuge and legerdemain to disenfranchise Blacks. And I don't think the current Supreme Court will be any more sympathetic that the one in 2000.
Even if he does manage to pull off Florida, he still needs Ohio and Pennsylvania, and the numbers simply aren't there for him. This election is going to be as one-sided as the Six-Day War, and it's going to leave Obama just as bloodied as the arabs he thinks can be reasoned with.
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#300507 - 05/07/08 02:07 PM
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Sorry, Paddy. This is a private bet with Li'l eblab. See, unlike Gunker, Malice, and even Grizz, whose opinions on the subject I respect because they come by them honestly, eblab is just a cheerleader who likes to shake his pom-poms at whomever he thinks is winning a particular argument. I'd like, for once, to see him have the courage of his convictions and put his money where his mouth is.
Of course, it's been almost six hours and he's avoided the challenge like PowDarth, so I'm not sure if it's going to happen. Maybe he's still out trying to scrounge up a measly C-Note from his skid row buddies?
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#300508 - 05/07/08 03:18 PM
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Jim if you want him to accept your bet you should post your proposition on YouTube. Tag it with the name of some overrated angst filled punk wannabe band.
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#300509 - 05/07/08 05:20 PM
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Sorry, Paddy. This is a private bet with Li'l eblab. See, unlike Gunker, Malice, and even Grizz, whose opinions on the subject I respect because they come by them honestly, eblab is just a cheerleader who likes to shake his pom-poms at whomever he thinks is winning a particular argument. I'd like, for once, to see him have the courage of his convictions and put his money where his mouth is.
Of course, it's been almost six hours and he's avoided the challenge like PowDarth, so I'm not sure if it's going to happen. Maybe he's still out trying to scrounge up a measly C-Note from his skid row buddies?
I'm hurt but I understand Jim;but I'm a fucking degenerate gambler. You are a politically savvy guy and I may be just pissing in the wind with Obama, but I would take action on ANY bet....
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#300510 - 05/07/08 05:33 PM
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Next one, buddy. Truth is, I'm NOT at all happy with the notion of a McCain Presidency. But with 25% of Clinton voters in Ohio and PA saying they'll stay home if Obama wins, and another 17% saying they'll vote for McCain, there's no way he can overcome the deficit. And those numbers do not take into account the Bradley effect.
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#300512 - 05/07/08 10:50 PM
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this thread is turning completely ridiculus... why must every thread turn into Jim B talking to Fatman
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#300513 - 05/08/08 12:04 AM
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Personally, after 20 years of Bush, Clinton, Clinton, Bush, and Bush, I really don't want to see another Clinton in office.
Isn't it about time someone else had a shot at the dynasty?
McCain scares me. Yeah he's a war hero, but tell me spending 5 and a half years as a POW of the Viet Cong doesn't fuck up your head. Now give the nuclear button to this old man with nothing left to lose. Fuck no!
At least Obama hasn't been in politics long enough to owe too many people favors. I'm voting for the amateur.
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#300514 - 05/08/08 02:36 AM
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Obama is just telling you stupid crackers exactly what he thinks you want to hear.
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#300518 - 05/08/08 03:54 AM
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And which elected politician doesn't? Even Churchill's "Blood, toil, tears, and sweat" speech was what the British people wanted to hear at that time.
Then difference is some belief in what is said. I don't think he buys a word of his unity bullshit and that his belief system lies closer to his reverends than to anyone else.
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#300519 - 05/08/08 06:11 AM
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this thread is turning completely ridiculus...
Then stop posting.
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why must every thread turn into Jim B talking to Fatman
Because, unlike you, we actually have something of substance to add to the conversation. As do Gunker and the others who have taken the Pro-Obama position. All you do is stick out your tongue like a three-year-old girl and say "u r teh stoooopid," then add a bunch of meaningless graemlins because you're too inarticulate to express a grown-up opinion.
If you insist on using the name "elaborator," please start umm... elaborating on the subject. ANY subject. And NOT, for the love of God, with a fucking YouTube clip. Thanks.
BTW: way to duck a challange... Powder.
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#300520 - 05/08/08 06:19 AM
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The biggest concern I have with Obama is that he has never had a position of policy responsibility at any level - he's never had to *do* anything, just talk about it. I see no reason he can't, but I'm not sure the Presidency is the right place for someone that green. There's no way to decide my vote based on how he'll handle surprises or emergencies because he's never faced them anywhere. I'd prefer to see him as a Cabinet Secretary or something for a couple of years and then run for President.
How true. But, if his handling of the Wright/Ayers episodes is any indication, he'll likely try to paper it over with pablum and platitudes. As for experience, as I've said repeatedly, in a dozen years, both he and the country might be ready for an Obama Presidency. But not now.
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And this goes to experience. A savvy politician would have danced with the man for some time before accepting the proposal. My prediction: Big Digs II, III, IV and V.
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My concern with McCain is that he's awfully comfortable with pork-barrel politics and lobbying money, and he was in the thick of the S&L scandal a generation ago. Is this the guy to really change things in Washington?
It is cause for concern, but his subsequent actions (like the well-intentioned but fatally flawed McCain-Feingold bill) seem to indicate that he's learned from the past. Like Fatty, I'm far more concerned about his relationship with Rudy.
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I take the contrarian view that her attacks on Obama are good experience for him so that he's not totally unprepared when he faces the Republicans in the general election.
I took the same view during Gore-Bradley 2000, and I worked on Gore's campaigns in NH and NY. While it did have some benefit, ultimately, they were both making their cases to Democrats. What he, Obama or any Democratic candidate needs is to learn how to make their case to the undecided voter. And, if PA and Ohio are any indication, he hasn't learned that lesson yet. Based on his record with Wright, Ayers and the "bitter" comments, I'm not sure if he will by November.
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The difference is some belief in what is said. I don't think he buys a word of his unity bullshit and that his belief system lies closer to his reverends than to anyone else.
I think that, at core, he's an ivy-league educated snake-oil salesman selling hope to a disparate group of disillusioned people. He's going to end up disappointing millions, whether he loses to McCain or wins and becomes the next Jimmy Carter.
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#300521 - 05/08/08 06:30 AM
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I voted for Obama in the PA primary. A lot of good that did, right?
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#300522 - 05/08/08 08:28 AM
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Raul there just is no point really in debating with you about this because you are just regurgitating talking points and you have such a dickish demeanor that there is no fun even in taking contrary positions. Powder? haha you are mixing up your XPT Cliches again.  (graemlins for raul)
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#300523 - 05/08/08 08:42 AM
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Raul there just is no point really in debating with you about this because you are just regurgitating talking points and you have such a dickish demeanor that there is no fun even in taking contrary positions.
Project much?
Once, JUST ONCE, I'd like to see you actually articulate a position. You never have and you never will. If it's not "u r teh stooopid," it's the old "I know you are but what am I?" schtick like you pulled above.
Talking points? I'd be thrilled if you actually were able to parrot Obama's talking points instead of the inanity you spout. Debating? Puh-Leeeze. Before you can debate someone, you have to have a clear idea of the issues. And you simply haven't demonstrated that you do. All you've done is shake your pom-poms and chant "Sis-Boom-Bah!!! Rah-Rah-Rah!!!" You've never once "elaborated" upon why you think Obama's the best candidate.
In any event, you should show some gratitude, since I'm the only one here who's even responded to your childish antics. Otherwise, you've been roundly ignored. You're welcome.
And you're still ducking the challenge like Darth. I guess no one on skid row thinks you're a good enough credit risk.
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#300524 - 05/08/08 08:50 AM
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raul...debating with you would involve reading your posts and that is something i, like many here, try to avoid. What a quick reply tho... you are averaging 10 posts a day...EVERY DAY. Stop polluting and diluting this board. 
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#300525 - 05/08/08 08:55 AM
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Why don't you actually take the time and articulate a position? Are the big words too much for your widdle head? Christ.
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Thank you for proving your idiocy.
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#300527 - 05/08/08 02:16 PM
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He is the most mainstream American on the ticket (which I know isn't saying much) so hopefully he will be more realistic to the needs of America then his predecessors have been.
With pals like Wright and Ayers, you seriously consider him "mainstream?" No wonder folks are "bitter."
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We've already had the Son trying to out-do his father (and failing miserably). Do we really need the Wife trying to out-do her husband?
The difference here is that the Son is an Idiot. Even "Poppy" Bush wanted Jeb to follow in his footsteps, not Shrub, if recent reports are to be believed. The Bull Dyke has many, many faults, but stupidity ain't one of them. My guess is that she'll have learned form his mistakes. That doesn't mean she wouldn't make plenty of her own.
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#300528 - 05/08/08 10:30 PM
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With pals like Wright and Ayers, you seriously consider him "mainstream?" No wonder folks are "bitter."
Other than the fact that he's not been in close contact with the Rev for years, yes it does make him more like mainstream America. How many privileged politicos do you think actually know a street level lunatic. Or experience ANYTHING that the average American experiences on a daily basis. He's not nearly as far removed from it as any of the other choices we've been given.
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The difference here is that the Son is an Idiot. Even "Poppy" Bush wanted Jeb to follow in his footsteps, not Shrub, if recent reports are to be believed. The Bull Dyke has many, many faults, but stupidity ain't one of them. My guess is that she'll have learned form his mistakes. That doesn't mean she wouldn't make plenty of her own.
And the Clintons are liars and murderers (how soon we forget Whitewater) and the other side gives as a psyche damaged POW warhawk already well past the the national average for life expectancy.
Let's see.... a lying murder, a deathbed madman, and a disgruntled black from my generation upset by the social ills of this country. Tough choice, not at all.
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#300535 - 05/09/08 05:25 AM
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Other than the fact that he's not been in close contact with the Rev for years...
Years, huh? Dude, Obama and Wright hid out in the basement of the Illinois State House and prayed together right before Obama announced his candidacy. Wright was originally to deliver the invocation, but that invite was withdrawn because Obama knew that Wright was going to cause him trouble. (Sources: NY Times; Chicago Sun Times) So he hides the guy in the basement??? That, right there, clearly demonstrates that Obama was aware that his super-close relationship with Wright would be an albatross around his neck. Obama's about to learn, as Richard Nixon did before him, that it's not the deed that will kill you, but the cover-up.
To be honest, I can sort of understand Wrights "Why hast thou forsaken me" schtick at the National Press Club; if my protégé of twenty years decided to throw me under the bus, well, I'd be a little... ummm... "bitter," too.
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How many privileged politicos do you think actually know a street level lunatic.
And besides Rev. Wright, exactly how many "street level lunatics" does Obama know?
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Or experience ANYTHING that the average American experiences on a daily basis. He's not nearly as far removed from it as any of the other choices we've been given.
Right. Because boarding school in Hawaii and the Ivy league are just the kind of things that define the average American.
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And the Clintons are liars and murderers (how soon we forget Whitewater)
You Bamists are always so quick to denounce the Clintons for "Republican" tactics, but embrace them fully when they suit your purpose. Like citing a discredited, paranoid conspiracy theory that led to one of the biggest boondoggles in American History. Or how about Obama's refusal to debate Clinton after the PA primary? Or, for that matter... ahh, forget it. I've already made that point.
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#300536 - 05/09/08 04:46 PM
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You Bamists are always so quick to denounce the Clintons for "Republican" tactics, but embrace them fully when they suit your purpose. Like citing a discredited, paranoid conspiracy theory that led to one of the biggest boondoggles in American History. Or how about Obama's refusal to debate Clinton after the PA primary? Or, for that matter... ahh, forget it. I've already made that point.
And some good points they are. Suffice it to say, with a two party system (both of which are private organizations that set their own rules outside of any democratic process) we are screwed as American voters, being left with only the ability to chose the lesser of all evils.
Being a politician is supposed to be a public service, not a self enhancing career with the bill footed by taxpayers. I would sooner have Joe Blow, the struggling but successful small business owner, in charge of the country then any of the self-inflated talking heads that have been placed in front of us.
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#300537 - 05/09/08 05:01 PM
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Suffice it to say, with a two party system (both of which are private organizations that set their own rules outside of any democratic process) we are screwed as American voters, being left with only the ability to chose the lesser of all evils.
Being a politician is supposed to be a public service, not a self enhancing career with the bill footed by taxpayers. I would sooner have Joe Blow, the struggling but successful small business owner, in charge of the country then any of the self-inflated talking heads that have been placed in front of us.
Indeed. I have no numbers to back this up, but I'd guess that less than 10% of the electorate truly votes "for" a candidate. The rest, as you said, vote for "the lesser of all evils."
Sometimes you'll see "Joe Blow the shopkeeper" run for City Council or some other local/state office. But the guys who run for President have almost without exception been running since they busted out of the womb.
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#300538 - 05/09/08 05:27 PM
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That's the thing if more people "wasted" their votes and chose a third party candidate, we could break the two party system.
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#300539 - 05/09/08 05:42 PM
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That's the thing if more people "wasted" their votes and chose a third party candidate, we could break the two party system.
I think a lot more people would be inclined to "waste" their vote if the third party candidates weren't wackos like Perot or douchebags like Nader. That seems to be the real stumbling block.
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#300540 - 05/09/08 06:14 PM
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Compared to the douche bags the dems and repubs put up? Six in one hand and half a dozen in another. If you want decent third party candidates it needs to be a viable enough option for the non-crackpots to run.
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#300541 - 05/09/08 06:30 PM
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I would have liked to have seen a self-financed, independent run by Mike Bloomberg. The fact that he's quit both major parties is telling. Yeah, he can go nanny-state at times, like with the smoking ban. But it would have been an acceptable trade-off knowing that he wouldn't have been beholden to most of the special interests the Ds and Rs have to court.
But he seems determined to go the "Carnegie Philanthropist" route. Can't say I blame him.
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#300546 - 05/09/08 10:43 PM
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10.19 posts a day....everyday. no holidays. no weekends. that is a sad record Jim B (for future mathmaticians: 3720 divided by 365 = a wasted life)
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#300547 - 05/09/08 10:48 PM
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Let's see. You don't read 'em, but you count 'em?
You're not only an idiot, but a liar. And a bet ducking coward like Darth/Powder.
Once again, your refusal to add anything substantive shows just how vapid you really are. Now you're reduced to crying like, well...
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#300549 - 05/10/08 11:02 AM
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Bloomberg may be vying for Obama's Vice Pres. I think it's Obama's best bet especially since his "sitdown" comments with Iran are really shaking the Jewish folks up a bit. Daily News Article Executive Intelligence Review Link
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#300550 - 05/10/08 02:52 PM
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If Obama wins, Jim B/Raoul/Duff can never post on XPT again. The same applies to Gunker and Elab if McCain wins.
Fuck $100 dollars. Anyone with a half a working brain knows this place is more important to all three of you than $100. Put up or shut up.
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#300554 - 05/11/08 05:43 AM
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Who said I was going to vote for McCain? I haven't made up my mind but the more I see the more I want to "waste" my vote again this time.
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