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#290736 - 12/13/07 05:20 PM Is this Money Shot for Real?!?
RogueSpawn Offline
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Is the pic shopped?!?


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#290737 - 12/13/07 05:24 PM Re: Is this Money Shot for Real?!?
Handful Offline
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It's about as real as the cock in his hand.
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#290738 - 12/13/07 06:23 PM Re: Is this Money Shot for Real?!?
Tritone Offline
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Registered: 04/01/07
Posts: 1958
LOL. Handful is right. The money shot is "real", but it certainly is not semen - more like some kind of pina-collada mix. And its a fake dick too.



Edited by tritone (12/13/07 06:26 PM)

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#290739 - 12/13/07 06:45 PM Re: Is this Money Shot for Real?!?
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It's about as real as the cock in his hand.




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#290740 - 12/13/07 07:40 PM Re: Is this Money Shot for Real?!?
lance69 Offline
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Nice tits...
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#290741 - 12/14/07 01:05 AM Re: Is this Money Shot for Real?!?
The Ghost Is Toast Offline
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Registered: 10/21/05
Posts: 2710


Look at the plastic sheet on the floor...it's just like that scene in 'Goodfellas' where Joe Pesci thinks he's getting made but instead is getting whacked.

Someone should get one of these fake erect/ejaculating penises as Ryan Knox's Christmas gift. I think it could make a real difference in his 'career', but I'd only give it 48 hours max before it is horribly melted or warped after he has tried to use it as a makeshift bong or pipe.


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#290742 - 12/14/07 02:09 AM Re: Is this Money Shot for Real?!?
Malcolm Y Offline
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Registered: 10/01/07
Posts: 135
who the fuck likes this shit??

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#290743 - 12/14/07 03:53 AM Re: Is this Money Shot for Real?!?
Jigaloo Offline
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Posts: 7863
Tritone does.
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#290744 - 12/14/07 09:34 AM Re: Is this Money Shot for Real?!?
Tritone Offline
Zip Coon
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Registered: 04/01/07
Posts: 1958
Quote:

Tritone does.




Hah! Yeah, right.

Actually some girls who otherwise don't do IR scenes have appeared on this site (e.g. - Cody Lane). I guess this is so they can tell their racist families/boyfriends -- "Oh, it wasn't a real black cock -- it was just a prop!!!"



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#290745 - 12/14/07 10:18 AM Re: Is this Money Shot for Real?!?
bnlmike Offline
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Registered: 10/18/07
Posts: 40
Quote:


Actually some girls who otherwise don't do IR scenes have appeared on this site (e.g. - Cody Lane). I guess this is so they can tell their racist families/boyfriends -- "Oh, it wasn't a real black cock -- it was just a prop!!!"







You need to shut the fuck up. I'm black and I'm tired of your posts. I watch plenty of IR and I'm tired of your posts. No matter what the thread is or what the subject is, everyone can count on you and your particular brand of stupid to derail the conversation.

You reek of the kind of black guy who only dates white chicks and gets his undies in a twist when some broad he likes won't date him because he's black. Stop posting the ramblings of your fucked-up id in threads it doesn't belong.

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#290746 - 12/14/07 10:30 AM Re: Is this Money Shot for Real?!?
gia jordan Offline
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Registered: 09/07/05
Posts: 14160
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You need to shut the fuck up. I'm black and I'm tired of your posts. I watch plenty of IR and I'm tired of your posts. No matter what the thread is or what the subject is, everyone can count on you and your particular brand of stupid to derail the conversation.

You reek of the kind of black guy who only dates white chicks and gets his undies in a twist when some broad he likes won't date him because he's black. Stop posting the ramblings of your fucked up id in threads it doesn't belong.




HAHAHAHAHA!!!
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#290747 - 12/14/07 01:34 PM Re: Is this Money Shot for Real?!?
safado Offline
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Registered: 04/16/05
Posts: 329
Quote:

Quote:

Tritone does.




Hah! Yeah, right.

Actually some girls who otherwise don't do IR scenes have appeared on this site (e.g. - Cody Lane). I guess this is so they can tell their racist families/boyfriends -- "Oh, it wasn't a real black cock -- it was just a prop!!!"







I'm just curious but why is a woman automaticly "racist" if she's not into black guys?

I know a few Black women who simply aren't into white guys and don't date them, never once thought of them as racist. It's something they simply aren't into, nothing more nothing less.

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#290748 - 12/14/07 03:59 PM Re: Is this Money Shot for Real?!?
Tritone Offline
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Quote:


I'm just curious but why is a woman automaticly "racist" if she's not into black guys?





You're right, it doesn't automatically make them racist. However, if you read my post again you'll see I am putting the "blame" on their families and/or boyfriends.

Sometimes girls won't do IR because they are afraid of how it will be perceived by family members. In their minds, the revelation that they are having sex with black guys would be more devastating to their family than finding out they are doing porn in the first place. Don't ask me why this is so... its just the fucked up race politics in this country (USA). Any color except black is fine. Black is poison -- nasty and degrading.

In other cases, starlets are directly forbidden to do black guys by their boyfriends/suitcase pimps. These BF can even be black guys that get particularly jealous when they see their ladies with other black guys. But most of the time I am sure its just non-black guys with racist tendencies.

...and then, a few ladies might just be RACIST. Like Vicky Vette or Felix Vicious, for example.

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I know a few Black women who simply aren't into white guys and don't date them, never once thought of them as racist. It's something they simply aren't into, nothing more nothing less.




Plenty of starlets can be not "into" their talent and still perform the scene. I think that in some cases, white girls are just intimidated by black guys and can't be comfortable doing scenes with them. Its bullshit because its all feeding off stereotypes that we are all big-dicked thuggs ready to split girls in two.

So anyway its just easier to say "no IR" than have to find the right black guy that they can click with it. And honestly, they can get away with it because most of the talent & power in the industry is white.


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#290749 - 12/14/07 05:58 PM Re: Is this Money Shot for Real?!?
christianxxx Offline
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actually bro, the stereotype in our business is that they get really high or drunk and are never hard for their scenes with a few notable exceptions, tee reel, sean michaels, mr. marcus...etc.
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#290750 - 12/14/07 06:15 PM Re: Is this Money Shot for Real?!?
safado Offline
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Registered: 04/16/05
Posts: 329
Quote:

You're right, it doesn't automatically make them racist. However, if you read my post again you'll see I am putting the "blame" on their families and/or boyfriends.

Sometimes girls won't do IR because they are afraid of how it will be perceived by family members. In their minds, the revelation that they are having sex with black guys would be more devastating to their family than finding out they are doing porn in the first place. Don't ask me why this is so... its just the fucked up race politics in this country (USA). Any color except black is fine. Black is poison -- nasty and degrading.

In other cases, starlets are directly forbidden to do black guys by their boyfriends/suitcase pimps. These BF can even be black guys that get particularly jealous when they see their ladies with other black guys. But most of the time I am sure its just non-black guys with racist tendencies.

...and then, a few ladies might just be RACIST. Like Vicky Vette or Felix Vicious, for example.

Plenty of starlets can be not "into" their talent and still perform the scene. I think that in some cases, white girls are just intimidated by black guys and can't be comfortable doing scenes with them. Its bullshit because its all feeding off stereotypes that we are all big-dicked thuggs ready to split girls in two.

So anyway its just easier to say "no IR" than have to find the right black guy that they can click with it. And honestly, they can get away with it because most of the talent & power in the industry is white.






Honestly, anyone as hung up on white girls and whether they fuck brothers or not as you are is a racist.

Every post you make concerns one thing and one thing only RACE

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#290751 - 12/14/07 06:41 PM Re: Is this Money Shot for Real?!?
Sergio T. Offline
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Registered: 07/20/03
Posts: 5256
Loc: CSW Wrestling - Gracie Academy
Quote:

...and then, a few ladies might just be RACIST. Like Vicky Vette or Felix Vicious, for example.




As always, dead wrong. I know Felix and she does have black friends. Just because she didn't do IR, makes her a racist? <----knocking sense into tritone
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#290752 - 12/14/07 10:55 PM Re: Is this Money Shot for Real?!?
The Ghost Is Toast Offline
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Registered: 10/21/05
Posts: 2710
Quote:

And honestly, they can get away with it because most of the talent & power in the industry is white.





...and how is this ever going to change if IR fanbois continue with the rampant filesharing, thus bleeding IR-friendly companies of their hard earned cash?

I would post a link to Midas from EXP Exquisite going postal against the filesharers over at the Mr. Marcus forum, but since it got all those ads and stuff (giving full scenes and DVDs away for free will apparently boost your traffic, but not your income), it has starting to get a 'this site may damage your computer' warning, so I don't go there anymore. But one thing I do know...you never took me up on my challenge to front those guys up about what their actions would do to the niche you profess to love so dearly.

Similarly, I'm a big fan of Maria Ozawa, the breathtakingly beautiful JAV Idol. I've seen an interview wherein she professes that she prefers Asian men to Caucasians because white guys dicks are too big for her and she doesn't enjoy it as much. Maybe she's just playing to the Japanese marketplace, maybe she's telling the truth. One thing I do know for sure is that I for one won't be embarking on a tirade calling her 'racist', or clogging up various JAV forums with posts about why starlet x doesn't do white guys.

As I have told you time and time again, it's not about black and white, it's about green. Companies will do whatever is in their best financial interest, and cater to the whims of the audience that keeps them in profit. If interracial was the be all and end all that you seem to think it is, then every other movie that Wicked, Vivid, and Digital Playground released would be IR-themed. The reason these guys are the big names in the business is because they go after an audience that *gasp* pays for their products. Ultimately, some moron on the Mr. Marcus board or SOHH saying 'Dat shit wuz tite!' about your product (which they've just downloaded for free) is not as important as some guy plunking down $30 and actually buying the damn thing.

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#290753 - 12/15/07 12:57 AM Re: Is this Money Shot for Real?!?
K.R Offline
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Registered: 08/18/05
Posts: 285
Quote:

actually bro, the stereotype in our business is that they get really high or drunk and are never hard for their scenes with a few notable exceptions, tee reel, sean michaels, mr. marcus...etc.




Come on Christian, non-black talent fall in this category as well. Almost all the sets I've been on have had some type of contraband present.
As for Tritone...dude...for the love of god.....STOP!!!!!!!!!!!!

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#290754 - 12/15/07 04:48 AM Re: Is this Money Shot for Real?!?
Handful Offline
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Registered: 05/08/07
Posts: 1681
Quote:

Actually some girls who otherwise don't do IR scenes have appeared on this site (e.g. - Cody Lane). I guess this is so they can tell their racist families/boyfriends -- "Oh, it wasn't a real black cock -- it was just a prop!!!"








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#290755 - 12/15/07 01:11 PM Re: Is this Money Shot for Real?!?
Jigaloo Offline
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Registered: 04/17/06
Posts: 7863
Hi bnlmike.
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#290756 - 12/15/07 03:13 PM Re: Is this Money Shot for Real?!?
*L*G* Offline
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Registered: 06/05/05
Posts: 4468
Loc: Great America
Quote:



Look at the plastic sheet on the floor...it's just like that scene in 'Goodfellas' where Joe Pesci thinks he's getting made but instead is getting whacked.







that is meatcash studios..... you know khan tusion and the gang

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#290757 - 12/15/07 05:22 PM Re: Is this Money Shot for Real?!?
lance69 Offline
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Registered: 02/18/05
Posts: 1138
Loc: British Colombia
For the record I know what her titties taste like.
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#290758 - 12/15/07 06:05 PM Re: Is this Money Shot for Real?!?
Sergio T. Offline
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Registered: 07/20/03
Posts: 5256
Loc: CSW Wrestling - Gracie Academy
Quote:

For the record I know what her titties taste like.



Like chicken? *lame rim shot*

Shouldn't that be: for the record I know what her pussy taste like?
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#290759 - 12/15/07 06:14 PM Re: Is this Money Shot for Real?!?
Kingfish Offline
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Registered: 07/28/07
Posts: 1134
Loc: The Mystic Knights of the Sea ...
her pussy probably tastes like desperation and despair.
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#290760 - 12/15/07 08:49 PM Re: Is this Money Shot for Real?!?
*L*G* Offline
Porn Jesus

Registered: 06/05/05
Posts: 4468
Loc: Great America
Quote:

For the record I know what her titties taste like.




is she your canadian peep, hottie holly ?

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#290761 - 12/15/07 08:52 PM Re: Is this Money Shot for Real?!?
Jigaloo Offline
Porn Jesus

Registered: 04/17/06
Posts: 7863
Quote:

For the record I know what her titties taste like.






Those girls are only five feet tall. I think that's Rob Longshot in your avatar.
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#290762 - 12/15/07 09:03 PM Re: Is this Money Shot for Real?!?
lance69 Offline
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Registered: 02/18/05
Posts: 1138
Loc: British Colombia
Quote:

Quote:

For the record I know what her titties taste like.



Like chicken? *lame rim shot*

Shouldn't that be: for the record I know what her pussy taste like?



That I do. But more importantly she knows what I taste like.



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Edited by lance69 (12/15/07 09:04 PM)
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#290763 - 12/15/07 09:11 PM Re: Is this Money Shot for Real?!?
lance69 Offline
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Registered: 02/18/05
Posts: 1138
Loc: British Colombia
Quote:

Quote:

For the record I know what her titties taste like.




is she your canadian peep, hottie holly ?



Yes she is. She's from Montreal but oddly enough she's not french.
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#290764 - 12/15/07 10:02 PM Re: Is this Money Shot for Real?!?
spiderman Offline
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Registered: 04/03/07
Posts: 27
Loc: Boston
Quote:


...and how is this ever going to change if IR fanbois continue with the rampant filesharing, thus bleeding IR-friendly companies of their hard earned cash?

I would post a link to Midas from EXP Exquisite going postal against the filesharers over at the Mr. Marcus forum, but since it got all those ads and stuff (giving full scenes and DVDs away for free will apparently boost your traffic, but not your income), it has starting to get a 'this site may damage your computer' warning, so I don't go there anymore. But one thing I do know...you never took me up on my challenge to front those guys up about what their actions would do to the niche you profess to love so dearly.

As I have told you time and time again, it's not about black and white, it's about green. Companies will do whatever is in their best financial interest, and cater to the whims of the audience that keeps them in profit. If interracial was the be all and end all that you seem to think it is, then every other movie that Wicked, Vivid, and Digital Playground released would be IR-themed. The reason these guys are the big names in the business is because they go after an audience that *gasp* pays for their products. Ultimately, some moron on the Mr. Marcus board or SOHH saying 'Dat shit wuz tite!' about your product (which they've just downloaded for free) is not as important as some guy plunking down $30 and actually buying the damn thing.




That's BS. What's your reason for believing that ir fans are stealing more than any other group. There are thousands of messageboards, with massive amounts of Vivid, Wicked content, and all that other shit crackers watch.


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#290765 - 12/16/07 04:22 AM Re: Is this Money Shot for Real?!?
The Ghost Is Toast Offline
Whoremaster

Registered: 10/21/05
Posts: 2710
Quote:


That's BS. What's your reason for believing that ir fans are stealing more than any other group. There are thousands of messageboards, with massive amounts of Vivid, Wicked content, and all that other shit crackers watch.






I don't deny that there are, but people who gravitate towards features AKA 'That shit crackers watch' tend to want the whole bells-and-whistles package, which means they buy the product, not download it.

Also, I don't have any reason for believing that IR fans are pirating more content than fans of any other gonzo-type niche (nor do I believe that I have stated anywhere previously that I do). But this is always my standard response to tritone whenever he pitches up with his usual schtick. I continue giving this response because I know tritone is too gutless to actually do anything about it.

Maybe if IR producers had the kind of money to throw around that the Wicked's, Vivid's and Digital Playground's do, then you might start to see these girls you want to see doing IR actually start doing it.

I'm not denying IR is a popular niche, but just like tritone you seem to want to bury your head in the sand and blame someone else rather than address the problem. Spider-man, maybe you would like to pick up the gauntlet I threw down for tritone, and take the folks over at the Mr. Marcus forum to task for the rampant piracy? Or maybe you'd just like it to continue unabated and just blame 'the man'?

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#290766 - 12/16/07 10:53 AM Re: Is this Money Shot for Real?!?
Tritone Offline
Zip Coon
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Registered: 04/01/07
Posts: 1958
Quote:


Maybe if IR producers had the kind of money to throw around that the Wicked's, Vivid's and Digital Playground's do, then you might start to see these girls you want to see doing IR actually start doing it.





If they can continue to make money without doing IR, then the existence of new IR gigs, even "high profile" ones, will not change their minds. Some starlets will only turn to IR when their normal bookings start drying up. Others remain popular and busy enough to never reach this contingency, so they continue to dodge IR.

The best starlets simply pick their bookings based on the sexual acts/situations they are expected to do -- not the race of their partner. If a girl is sexy, reliable, and a dick-pleaser, then she can continue to get IR and non-IR gigs and make everyone happy!

Thank god for:

Katja Kassin, Jasmine Byrne, Ava Devine, Jayna Oso, Lauren Phoenix, Ryan Conner, Brianna Love, Flower, Gianna, Bobbi Starr, Eva Angelina, Hillary Scott, Monica Sweetheart, Angel Dark, and the host of other IR-friendly ladies who have enjoyed "success" in this industry by performing with all races of partners!

note: EDITED to add Katja Kassin (love you, babe!)

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#290767 - 12/16/07 02:35 PM Re: Is this Money Shot for Real?!?
Dick Dastardly Offline
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Registered: 01/25/06
Posts: 4470
Quote:

Is the pic shopped?!?




Nice questions. However, I have a better one...

ARE YOU FUCKING RETARDED?

Please answer at your earliest convenience.
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#290768 - 12/16/07 02:37 PM Re: Is this Money Shot for Real?!?
Jigaloo Offline
Porn Jesus

Registered: 04/17/06
Posts: 7863
All in favor of someone with a baseball bat cracking Tritone in the head a few times say aye.
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#290769 - 12/16/07 04:35 PM Re: Is this Money Shot for Real?!?
Sergio T. Offline
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Registered: 07/20/03
Posts: 5256
Loc: CSW Wrestling - Gracie Academy
Aye
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#290770 - 12/16/07 04:55 PM Re: Is this Money Shot for Real?!?
gia jordan Offline
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Registered: 09/07/05
Posts: 14160
Loc: NYC
Quote:

All in favor of someone with a baseball bat cracking Tritone in the head a few times say aye.




Is it a black bat?
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#290771 - 12/16/07 05:07 PM Re: Is this Money Shot for Real?!?
Jigaloo Offline
Porn Jesus

Registered: 04/17/06
Posts: 7863
No it is caucasian. This bat is stepping up to the challenge because people call it a dodger.
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#290772 - 12/16/07 05:09 PM Re: Is this Money Shot for Real?!?
Jigaloo Offline
Porn Jesus

Registered: 04/17/06
Posts: 7863
Gia's question reminded me of a joke.

What's the difference between Batman and a black man?
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#290773 - 12/17/07 05:57 AM Re: Is this Money Shot for Real?!?
have2cit Offline
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Registered: 08/09/06
Posts: 9113
Loc: red dirt state of mind
Quote:

That's BS. What's your reason for believing that ir fans are stealing more than any other group. There are thousands of messageboards, with massive amounts of Vivid, Wicked content, and all that other shit crackers watch.





How dare you call me a cracker! You will refer to me as a cracka from now on or I will stomp your racist ass into the ground!

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#290774 - 12/17/07 06:25 AM Re: Is this Money Shot for Real?!?
Jigaloo Offline
Porn Jesus

Registered: 04/17/06
Posts: 7863
I like to believe that most white people have taste and don't watch the crap Vivid and Wicked put out. 95% of people who watch them are black guys who like to bitch about the girls not doing interracial and/or who like the guys in the movies. 90% of them get the movies from the Mr Marcus board.
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#290775 - 12/29/07 06:13 PM Re: Is this Money Shot for Real?!?
Gunker Offline
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Posts: 4268
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Quote:

Similarly, I'm a big fan of Maria Ozawa, the breathtakingly beautiful JAV Idol.




Check it out:

http://www.mariaozawa.us
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#290776 - 12/30/07 04:24 AM Re: Is this Money Shot for Real?!?
frankie Offline
Rob Black's Crack Pipe

Registered: 12/18/07
Posts: 103
whos dick did lance and ryan knox suck to get into porn?

this japanese bitch is cute but looks like shes part white.i like my asian girls alot more asian looking.






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#290777 - 12/30/07 02:08 PM Re: Is this Money Shot for Real?!?
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Posts: 1138
Loc: British Colombia
Quote:

whos dick did lance and ryan knox suck to get into porn?



My dick gets hard and I can cum multiple times during a scene in front of people. That, and I gave up on my dignity a long time ago.
Are you mad cause you took a shot in the mouth and didn't get in?
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