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#29073 - 06/01/04 07:22 AM How Will Paris Hilton Profit From The New Tape?
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I predict she will sue her ex-boyfriend Rick Solomon. I bet she was in on this sex tape scam from the start and she's going to get her share of profits.

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#29074 - 06/01/04 07:30 AM Re: How Will Paris Hilton Profit From The New Tape?
Jeff Steward Offline
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I agree.She must have signed a modal release or else Red Light would be in violation of 2257.
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#29075 - 06/01/04 07:32 AM Re: How Will Paris Hilton Profit From The New Tape?
Kami Andrews Offline
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ya.. and I bet they have never done that before hahahaa

seriously I read she was behind it

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#29076 - 06/01/04 07:33 AM Re: How Will Paris Hilton Profit From The New Tape?
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since she is a publically known figure she doesnt need to sign a realase. Everyone knows who she is and her age. the 2257 is just so she isnt underage...

why do you think magazines can get away with posting pictures of sheer blouses and stuff like that of celebs? they never sign a release. I cant explain it well, but it has to do with celebrity. Its basically too fucking bad if they do something dumb and someone prints it since they are always in the publics eye.
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#29077 - 06/01/04 08:38 AM Re: How Will Paris Hilton Profit From The New Tape?
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Poo,

Being a public figure would probably only clear them on the whole "release of rights" type of thing, 2257 deals with record keeping and is required be her a public figure or not. But, as others have said, I'm sure she's in on it anyways and they have a copy of her IDs, etc.

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#29078 - 06/01/04 09:12 AM Re: How Will Paris Hilton Profit From The New Tape
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I have a feeling she's not doing it for the money.

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#29079 - 06/01/04 09:39 AM Re: How Will Paris Hilton Profit From The New Tape
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What if she gets nominated and shows up at the AVN awards, what will that do for her?

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#29080 - 06/01/04 11:16 AM Re: How Will Paris Hilton Profit From The New Tape
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Actually you do have to get a model release on her. Touchstone, MGM, and Disney all get model releases on you and they are not doing porn.
If you are not using the picture to promote something (i.e. commercial use - advertisement, service, etc.) you can 'publish' a picture taken in a public place without permission. other than that I am almost sure you do need one.
I think we need jrv on this. jrv, if you don't mind?
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#29081 - 06/01/04 12:37 PM Re: How Will Paris Hilton Profit From The New Tape
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Im just stating what i remember from the pamela and tommy lee case and how they lost...
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#29082 - 06/01/04 03:45 PM Re: How Will Paris Hilton Profit From The New Tape
Kami Andrews Offline
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you two turds should be working

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#29083 - 06/01/04 05:32 PM Re: How Will Paris Hilton Profit From The New Tape
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if she was in on it she really is a twisted capitalist. Once if by accident this would be seemingly risky or a career killer, but Paris totally made it hip. whatever the case, she blows pole damn swell.
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#29084 - 06/01/04 06:13 PM Re: How Will Paris Hilton Profit From The New Tape
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I like that she is shaved clean. I won't buy it but may rent it.

I don't know if she was "in" on it or not but what does she have to lose? Her trust fund isn't going anywhere.
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#29085 - 06/01/04 09:19 PM Re: How Will Paris Hilton Profit From The New Tape?
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#29086 - 06/01/04 09:21 PM Re: How Will Paris Hilton Profit From The New Tape?
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I wouldn't be surprised if she isn't trying to use the video as a springboard for a showbiz career. We know that there is no such thing as bad publicity.
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#29087 - 06/01/04 11:42 PM Re: How Will Paris Hilton Profit From The New Tape?
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Isn't it a coincidence that the video and the second season of her TV show come out around the same time?
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#29088 - 06/02/04 05:47 AM Re: How Will Paris Hilton Profit From The New Tape?
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#29089 - 06/02/04 05:45 PM Re: How Will Paris Hilton Profit From The New Tape?
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I heard that they already shot a sequal with her doing double anal with a couple of homies from Inglewood...

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#29090 - 06/02/04 05:55 PM Re: How Will Paris Hilton Profit From The New Tape
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I heard that they already shot a sequal with her doing double anal with a couple of homies from Inglewood...




So is she the next White Trash Whore?
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#29091 - 06/04/04 12:39 AM Re: How Will Paris Hilton Profit From The New Tape
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I think we need jrv on this. jrv, if you don't mind?



I don't know anything at all about model releases. I'm sure this has been thoroughly litigated over the years and RLD had no trouble getting good legal advice. I assume this is a purely civil matter between RLD & Paris and has nothing to do with the government.

I found one case that may apply for 2257: Sundance Associates vs. Reno. The statute defines “produces” as

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to produce, manufacture, or publish any book, magazine, periodical, film, video tape or other similar matter and includes the duplication, reproduction, or reissuing of any such matter, but does not include mere distribution or any other activity which does not involve hiring, contracting for, managing, or otherwise arranging for the participation of the performers depicted.




(that bizarre wording came about because they patched earlier unconstitutional language)

RLD could be relying on the fact that every activity of theirs “does not involve hiring, contracting for, managing, or otherwise arranging for the participation of the performers depicted.”

Regulations originally tried to include “any person who produces, assembles, manufactures, publishes, duplicates, reproduces, or reissues a book, magazine, periodical, film, videotape, or other matter intended for commercial distribution that contains a visual depiction of actual sexually explicit conduct.” The Sundance case threw this out as contradicting the statute.

The careful thing to do is of course to keep 2257 records if you “touch” the material in any way. RLD probably can’t but that’s not necessarily a show-stopper.

I didn’t try to find the 2257 regulations themselves to see what constitutes an ID. Also, these laws & regulations have been patched over and over and there might be something newer.
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#29092 - 06/04/04 03:45 PM Re: How Will Paris Hilton Profit From The New Tape
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Did they use a condom or did she take it bare like a good girl?
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#29093 - 06/05/04 12:00 AM Re: How Will Paris Hilton Profit From The New Tape
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Registered: 08/03/03
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dudes,
i know for a fact she signed a model release.
i know some people from the inside.

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