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None of the choices reflected my opinion on women.

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He forgot the poll option about women not liking cheap Windsock imitators.

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None of the choices reflected my opinion on women.

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my mistake. please, feel free to write in any other responses you might have. i should have wrote that at the beginning. it's all very good information.

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not to sound too much like the fatman, () but at least i irritate all the right people.

but please, elaborate on how i equals jim b. unless you're going to just be like, "you both suck". if that's all you can come up with, then, what's good, jack schitt?

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you attack the weak and the marginalized and call them faggots or poor or ethnic. apparently this is fun for you?

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Nothing irrates white trash more than the inability to get others to conform to their "standards".

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I think it's funny have2cit's been classified as "white trash" on the basis of his shotgun wielding avatar.

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Let me get this correct: a “supposed” Max Hardcore fan is calling me out for being demeaning to others? Oh pot thy kettle is black.

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Maybe I am a guard dog but at least I’m my own dog, I’m not trying to be Snoopy or Dynomutt.

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We are all tired of the “Being Windsock” crap and frankly can’t wait for you to tire of it.

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but good to see you know your own place.

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and mr. b, if they're not doing anything, please ask your army of alt-ids to vote in my poll. it's a fiasco, so far.

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I dig the Moose. He's never been afraid to voice an unpopular opinion. It's funny how the folks who don't give a fuck what people think are always labled as "conformists," and "desperately seeking attention" by the self-proclaimed guardians of iconoclasm.

I also think it's funny that any time someone acts a bit... "different", they're accused of trying to be Windsock. Just what the fuck kind of Dumbass Black-and-White, Yes/No/never-a-maybe world ane some of y'all living in? Any similarities between The Moose and Herr Sock are completely superficial.

Moose is good people. My "army of alts" can't stand the guy, but they're a bunch of skells who signed up for the free beer.

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Let me get this correct: a “supposed” Max Hardcore fan is calling me out for being demeaning to others? Oh pot thy kettle is black.

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this is a strange passage. what exactly is the point of questioning my max hardcore fandom? is there some defined amount of street cred i need? i watch his movies, i jack off to them. i had hoped this was enough. i apologize if i have fallen short of some imagined worldview you demand from your maxfan.

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Maybe I am a guard dog but at least I’m my own dog, I’m not trying to be Snoopy or Dynomutt.

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actually, my point was that you are their dog. but address this or don't, whatever you yourself would do, dog.

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We are all tired of the “Being Windsock” crap and frankly can’t wait for you to tire of it.

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look, i started posting one way. everyone cried "windsock". it frustrated me, but it was not a baseless complaint (though, again, i've always felt like i was plenty different from mr. sock, and people who are invested in claiming such are really just invested in generalities that allow them not to think about stuff too much- but that's just me). i changed the way i posted, months ago. i have also been accused of trying to be mr. hyde. now you say i'm mr. b. i accuse you of being a person who needs to clear his head.

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Why not focus on the heart of the question rather than the semantics of the text? But address this or don't, whatever you yourself would do.

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i felt like it was a faulty question. apart from the questioning of my fanhood, (by the way, you didn't need to put "supposed" in "quotation marks", unless you were trying to make us think that you didn't actually mean "supposed"- mr. 2cit, i think you are a "worthwhile" participant on this message board) you seem to be suggesting that my enjoying of max hardcore films somehow cancels out any other "contradictory" views i might express, and vice versa. i don't consider the two mutually exclusive. here we obviously agree to disagree.

and i felt like i defined their in my original response to you. their refers to the cool kids on here. they are their. and, lucky you, you do fit in- as their mutt.

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Why not focus on the heart of the question rather than the semantics of the text? But address this or don't, whatever you yourself would do.

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i felt like it was a faulty question. apart from the questioning of my fanhood, (by the way, you didn't need to put "supposed" in "quotation marks", unless you were trying to make us think that you didn't actually mean "supposed"- mr. 2cit, i think you are a "worthwhile" participant on this message board) you seem to be suggesting that my enjoying of max hardcore films somehow cancels out any other "contradictory" views i might express, and vice versa. i don't consider the two mutually exclusive. here we obviously agree to disagree.

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Listen if you want to keep harping on about the semantics, I’ll understand that’s best you have.

Can you tell me why demeaning a woman on screen is acceptable but demeaning someone on a message board is not? Do you even know? Is it the addition of the sex act that soothes your conscience?

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i wouldn't say it's "acceptable", and i most definitely do not feel good about it. but, somehow, when my dick is in my hand, i don't think about it the same way. or at all. i personally don't look at the world the same way when i'm jerking off as i do at other times. if you do, then that's super. it probably makes things less confusing for you. i choose to think critically about my jerk material. i'm allowed. and if your view of women, or the world at large, is reflected by what goes on in your porn, then that's fine as well. be a jerkoff at all times. you're allowed.

i do think it's less problematic to be a delusional macho cartoon on a message board than to jerk off over the abuse of women, but still, it's all allowed. you can even do both.

i don't know what that "not all dogs are leashed" comment is supposed to mean, or why i would be scared to admit it.

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Jim, no one, I repeat NO ONE on this planet takes this place more seriously than you. And the fact that you put everything you have into it and you’re still not accepted is more amusing to me than you could possibly know.

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i wouldn't say it's "acceptable", and i most definitely do not feel good about it. but, somehow, when my dick is in my hand, i don't think about it the same way. or at all. i personally don't look at the world the same way when i'm jerking off as i do at other times. if you do, then that's super. it probably makes things less confusing for you. i choose to think critically about my jerk material. i'm allowed. and if your view of women, or the world at large, is reflected by what goes on in your porn, then that's fine as well. be a jerkoff at all times. you're allowed.

i do think it's less problematic to be a delusional macho cartoon on a message board than to jerk off over the abuse of women, but still, it's all allowed. you can even do both.

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I think it's funny have2cit's been classified as "white trash" on the basis of his shotgun wielding avatar.

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I agree, its very funny. I wonder what my avatar classifies me as?

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again, it never occurred to me that acknowledging, you know, reality, is a form of hypocrisy. i could be less full of shit, like yourself, and indulge in the alternate reality of this board, where men are men and women are whores and there are hard and fast rules i can use to judge every single one of them. but i think i'd rather be a hypocrite.

it doesn't matter, anyway. my painstakingly crafted and very scientific poll has been totally ruined.

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Again, with a verbal runaround of the issue? Plenty of people here hate women, so just come out and say how much you hate them too. You’ll feel better once you have. Think of it in terms of Jim B., as being a sort of hand washing for your soul. Look at me I have absolutely no problem expressing how much I hate sanctimonious douche bags.


As for avatars, I kind of liked this one too, but went with the shotgun instead.

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here's a question; when you talk about "windsock impersonators", do you mean people who try to literally steal the man's style and particular obsessions, wholesale, or just posters who are little more than a collection of idiosyncrasies and affectations, but who are not able make them gel into a compelling character like windsock? maybe i haven't been here long enough, but i've never seen anyone who falls into the first category.

well, maybe one.

edit: i am addressing mr. node with this question

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Again, with a verbal runaround of the issue?

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that's not what i'm doing at all, but you're very persistent at attempting to define the issue and the stakes within a disagreement. this type of "say yes or no!" attempt to discredit a person, and therefore invalidate everything they say, makes my head hurt. i'm not going to address your "do you hate women?" question because it's fucking dumb.

do you hate women? of course you don't, you only hate whores.

i'm not sure how much further this argument can go as it is.

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that's not what i'm doing at all, but you're very persistent at attempting to define the issue and the stakes within a disagreement. this type of "say yes or no!" attempt to discredit a person, and therefore invalidate everything they say, makes my head hurt. i'm not going to address your "do you hate women?" question because it's fucking dumb.

do you hate women? of course you don't, you only hate whores.

i'm not sure how much further this argument can go as it is.

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Of course that's what you're doing because you're afraid of the truth. The choices you’ve made answered the question for you. I’m just trying to get you to man up and admit it, but I understand if you don’t have the balls. Me? I only hate douche bags, as I have openly admitted. However some whores, women, and others do belong in this category.

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i guess i'm just not ready to man up and admit to myself that other people are the problem (douchebags). you and i obviously have conflicting views of "reality", and it seems pointless to continue this discussion when we both clearly are operating under the assumption the other is an oblivious moron or a sanctimonious douche, respectively. i'm going to fuck off now, and i invite you to do the same.

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i'm going to fuck off now, and i invite you to do the same.

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I really thought you would have picked up my meaning by now...Oh well I’ll just spell it out then.

You enjoy the demeaning of others as do I.

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actually, i appreciate your spelling it out for me. let me do the same for you-

i am indeed like you, in that i enjoy the demeaning of women in max hardcore movies.

the difference i'm getting at is that i consider this a personal flaw. it's my problem, and i have no interest in trying to justify it by pretending these women are just irresponsible, stupid whores who deserve what they get.

damn, now not only is my poll ruined, but i just crapped up my pretty good line.

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Reading this thread, I can barely even skim the Big Moose posts. Too many $3 adjectives and long-winded garbled sentences for me to even know how sound his argument is. Get to the fucking point, dude.

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I've almost completely forgotten what the hell they were arguing about in the first place.

Have2: You're wasting your time...how about a good ol' fashioned war with ElG? Much more entertainment value.

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actually, i appreciate your spelling it out for me. let me do the same for you-

i am indeed like you, in that i enjoy the demeaning of women in max hardcore movies.

the difference i'm getting at is that i consider this a personal flaw. it's my problem, and i have no interest in trying to justify it by pretending these women are just irresponsible, stupid whores who deserve what they get.

damn, now not only is my poll ruined, but i just crapped up my pretty good line.

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We all can tell just how broken up about it you are, your posts are always dripping with angst, let me however restate my proposal that you cut yourself up over it in a way that no longer involves me.