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Great article by Claire Hoffman in Portfolio:

http://www.portfolio.com/culture-lifestyle/culture-inc/arts/2007/10/15/YouPorn-Vivid-Entertainment-Profile

2257s at Pornotube (AEBN) seem dodgy:

DVD sales are in free fall. Audiences are flocking to pornographic knockoffs of YouTube, especially a secretive site called YouPorn. And the amateurs are taking over. What’s happening to the adult-entertainment industry is exactly what’s happening to its Hollywood counterpart—only worse.

…Three years ago, 80 percent of Vivid’s income came from DVD sales. Today, Hirsch puts that number at about 30 percent, with the rest coming from a fragmented range of sources: subscriptions to Vivid.com, pay-per-view TV, internet video-on-demand, merchandising, and mobile-phone deals. Domestic DVD sales are down 35 percent this year alone. His revenue is flat, he says, but that’s mainly because he’s been cutting costs. Within five years, he claims, DVD sales will be close to zero.

…One of the items on Reeder’s to-do list [at AEBN’s PornoTube.com] is an age-verification complaint about a video called “Adriana Lima Blowjob.” It has no 2257 info. So Reeder cuts and pastes the name into a search engine and clicks through a few sites that say Adriana Lima was born in 1981. Reeder is about to move on when I point out to her that Adriana Lima is in fact a fairly well-known model and that the woman in the video is probably not she. Is PornoTube concerned about that? Knudsen, standing behind Reeder, tells her to take it down quickly. “We do the best we can,” Knudsen tells me repeatedly.

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...DVD sales are in free fall. Audiences are flocking to pornographic knockoffs of YouTube, especially a secretive site called YouPorn. And the amateurs are taking over. What’s happening to the adult-entertainment industry is exactly what’s happening to its Hollywood counterpart—only worse.

…Three years ago, 80 percent of Vivid’s income came from DVD sales. Today, Hirsch puts that number at about 30 percent, with the rest coming from a fragmented range of sources: subscriptions to Vivid.com, pay-per-view TV, internet video-on-demand, merchandising, and mobile-phone deals. Domestic DVD sales are down 35 percent this year alone. His revenue is flat, he says, but that’s mainly because he’s been cutting costs. Within five years, he claims, DVD sales will be close to zero.

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I've been saying this shit for years but nobody listens ever. This YouPorn & SexTV1 thing is the end of monetized pornography. Hollywood is in no way having as big a problem with piracy as porno is because they are willing to employ thousands of people to scour the web and get pirated product promptly removed. I see so much stolen XXX crap on these free sites that its sick, yet I've never even heard of one lawsuit to shut down one of these shady websites.

If the industry is really serious about making money then the first thing they will take a four step program:

1) Fire AEBN, Gamelink, or any other VOD provider they signed up for. Do you idiots realize they can cut up your product for promotional purposes and distribute it for free any way they see fit to get people to their websites to 'buy'?? These guys don't give a fuck, they're just surviving on volume.

2) Cut off the affiliate programs, stop producing cuts and photo galleries for 'webmasters' who take the shit and dump it on the web for free.

3) Then they'll stop allowing the downloading of full scenes from corporate websties to stop the bleeding.

4) They'll turn their websites into true marketing websites to sell DVDs (or whatever pops up next) either direct to consumer or via retailers.

Unfortunately none of this will ever occur because most of the idiots running porn studios aren't rocket scientists. Besides, we're in an age where the fuckin' butt ugly performing skank makes all the money - and for the most part these below-par chicks in porn are the type you wouldn't pick up while drunk.

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Luke, why are my comments no longer appearing on your blog?

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Same here dude! I've made about half a dozen over the past week and they're not there. I thought Luke was mad at me.

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August 14, 2007, 11:13 AM
Vivid Slowdown
By LUKE IS BACK |

Vivid used to shoot a dozen movies a month, but this year they’ve only been shooting three a month. They have a skeletal crew. Shylar’s shooting second camera.

I hear Vivid’s DVD sales are down by a third.

At one point, they asked the guy to shoot scenes for no more than $500. Folks such as Tommy Gunn and Evan Stone typically get $800 a scene.

Vivid has gotten rid of four contract girls — the Love twins, Brea Lynn and Cassidey. I don’t know about Kaden and Lanny Barbie.

Meanwhile, Naughty America is shooting 80 scenes a month with big crews. For internet players such as Naughty America and Bang Bros

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hey, I heard nick manning is a rocket scientist.

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hey, I heard nick manning is a rocket scientist.

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hey, I heard nick manning is a rocket scientist.

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DROPPING FUCKIN' PAYLOADS

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I'm glad to see some of us still killing it here.

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YES! Good choice.

"DROPPIN' FUCKIN' NUKES"
"DROPPIN' FUCKIN' ROCKETS"
"DROPPIN' FUCKIN' MOABS"
and
"DROPPIN' FUCKIN' BALLISTIC MISSILES"
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Is Jeff a rocket scientist??? That's yet to be seen.

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I have to agree with the bulk of xvod's first post, as I have been singing the same song for quite some time too.

As for Jeff, I would actually guess he is less affected than bigger companies. My reasoning is thus: 'Big name' companies have the sort of product that everyone wants to see, and more often than not this is due to the talent involved (who are often under exclusive contract or are brand new or new at that level, for which said company has paid a premium to the performer/agent).

The products of these companies are also fairly ubiquitous...every online retailer has them, and they are 'must-stock' items for brick-and-mortar retailers too.

Now let us contrast this with JM's business model: JM does not have some hot contract starlet that everyone loves (like Teagan), and with all due respect to Ashley Blue, she never had that sort of mass market appeal before, during or after her JM contract stint.

JM's products are very niche-oriented, and are not the kind of thing couples are going to buy/rent and watch (unless they are one seriously fucked up couple). They are not 'safe' or 'vanilla', and as a consequence, there are many outlets (both real-world and online) that won't stock them.

So it's curtains for Jeff, I hear you ask?

No...and here's why. In the times to come, I envision companies like JM that have only a small amount of popularity (compared to Wicked's, Vivid's, Digital Playground's and Jules Jordan's) will actually be less affected. JM doesn't spend 'Pirates' or 'Space Nuts' type money on the movies it puts out, and I would imagine that given the reluctance of certain stockists to actually carry their product, they also do fairly brisk business with direct mail order sales, and you don't have to be a rocket scientist to work out that copies sold at retail price are a lot more profitable than those sold at wholesale price.

When Sunny Leone's first boy/girl scene hits the streets, I would guess you will be able to download it for free within 48 hrs. (maybe less) of it hitting the shelves. Why? Simple...because it is something that everyone wants to see (or at least, the vast majority of people).

My point is that courting mass popularity makes you a bigger target for piracy, and I believe that in the near future we will see companies that try to be all things to all people will suffer more than those who only attempt to appeal to a smaller, hard-core fanbase.

Is it worth getting (for example) Teagan or Stefani Morgan on the cover of Maxim (or some similar publication) when all you might be doing is actually encouraging the demand for piracy? Will the readers of said publication think 'Damn! She's hot...I'm gonna order her DVD!' or 'Damn! Let me see what I can find when I type her name and 'Rapidshare' into Google!'?

Dare I say it, but companies that studiously avoid mass-market appeal and choose instead to fly under the radar, might just be in better shape for the battle that is to come. You can't hit a target you can't see, much less one you don't even know exists...

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and for the most part these below-par chicks in porn are the type you wouldn't pick up while drunk.

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Ergo, as I have repeated in the past, Holly reigns as the most erotic woman in Adult...

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Ergo, as I have repeated in the past, Holly reigns as the most erotic woman in Adult...

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So, you're saying Holly is a woman who you WOULD pick up while drunk?







I agree fully with the Da Burglar Principle:

Real "amateur" girls are ALWAYS sexier/hotter/better than their "professional" counterparts.

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DVD sales are in free fall. Audiences are flocking to pornographic knockoffs of YouTube, especially a secretive site called YouPorn. And the amateurs are taking over.

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And where is the paperwork for these sites? Huh? Exactly. Do a Google search and you'll find endless fuckers doing this kind of thing and then trying to charge memberships for it.

Some of these companies need a Federal visit, real quick. I love how the government are wasting their time with porn outfits who have all the right paperwork, while completely ignoring web companies who have none. What a fucking waste of tax dollars.

"Hey, we're visiting JM Productions this week. Let's blow a shitload of cash on a court case that never comes off instead of hitting up a bunch of fucktards we could easily prosecute."

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The product sucks ("Hey, wanna go see Porky's #37?")

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30 years ago if you had extra cash a teenage could go to a theater or buy by an 8-track, but now spare cash is now likely to go to a computer game, Second Life, etc.

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Porn has the same problem that the product sucks, plus comps (Vivid gets no sympathy here). And competition from both pirated and free or amateur is a big deal too.

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PS. The record industry's policy of killing off music stores has got to be the dumbest move ever. Stores that only sold music meant that a consumer wasn't tempted to leave with anything else. But now sales have been moved to retailers that only have music as a small part of the overall merchandise a consumer might buy. Do you think Best Buy cares if a consumers walks in the story to buy a CD and leaves with a game or such?

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Adult companies need to diversify to survive, and by diversify, I don't mean exploring new delivery channels for their media. If I were to invest money in any adult company today, it would be Adam & Eve, for the simple fact that you can't download a dildo off of Rapidshare. DVD sales can flatline tomorrow, but they'll still be alright.