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#277097 - 09/24/07 09:46 AM
Jim Powers & Stern..oh, & asshole MAX
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Just got done listening to the guys. I should of listen to KROQ for the Brady promo *I predict that Movie will WIN movie of the year @ AVN*, but I had to hear what pervert Max had to say. Is he from NYC? OMG! His voice is annoying along with all the F words every other word when he tried to talk about his 5 videos putting him in the big house. Anyway, Jim Power's, has a nice sounding voice! He was more "real". Just wondering how bad the 20 y/o was in looks. She sounded totally Stupid!
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#277098 - 09/24/07 10:33 AM
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Is he from NYC?
None of ya fuckin' buisness.
Don't you have teenagers to scold about STDs?
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#277100 - 09/24/07 10:49 AM
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I know, Charlie, I know. Time was, people respected us New Yorkers. Now even the VD Chick is taking shots. Da Noive.
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#277102 - 09/24/07 11:46 AM
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Don't be so sure, Spongey. There are many variables at play here. I expect him to lose round one, but his lawyers are smart enough to delay things long enough that there will be a new, presumably Democratic administration installed before this comes before the 11th Circuit Court of Appeals. I'm not so sure the new DOJ is going to want to persue this.
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#277105 - 09/24/07 03:13 PM
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Max Hardcore Prison Bitch
Registered: 01/30/07
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Don't be so sure, Spongey. There are many variables at play here. I expect him to lose round one, but his lawyers are smart enough to delay things long enough that there will be a new, presumably Democratic administration installed before this comes before the 11th Circuit Court of Appeals. I'm not so sure the new DOJ is going to want to persue this.
Why would you think there will be a Democratic adminstration installed? I don't believe this country will elect a woman or a nignog. It'll be Rudy or Fred and either one is liable to be much tougher on porn.
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#277106 - 09/24/07 03:25 PM
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I think a Dem will squeak by largely based on "Bush Fatigue," same as Bush squeaked by on "Clinton Fatigue."
Regardless, Rudy will NOT win the Republican nomination under any circumstances. It just won't happen.
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#277107 - 09/24/07 03:44 PM
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Registered: 04/17/04
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i think you overestimate a change in parties springing max loose. chicks vote dem,hil's a w'69 and that generation of women contribute and you may be suprised to see whether they hate paul little more than they care about 1st amendment stuff.
those cliffie's and such from the 70's made money and they're not manhaters, but max is pretty brazen about everything he does and that generation's not max's friend. that decade was their stand, we'll see if it takes precedence over protecting shit flipping off everything they worked for. frankly, democrats are just as likely to scream "look at the kids" if max doesn't tone down the tactless lobs he'sthrowing at the people in charge of his future.
it'd be a major coup for a lot of women to take down someone who's pretty easy to demonize, max's lawyers need to shut up max and realize even dems are willing to put the fix in if it makes hte right statement.
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#277108 - 09/24/07 04:09 PM
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Clearly, Max needs to shut the fuck up, as in yesterday, and his attorneys are doing him a disservice in allowing him to continue shooting his mouth off.
Nonetheless, it's not the Wellesley and Radcliffe crowd that matters; it's who's going to staff the Clinton DOJ that will make the call. I seriously doubt Max is on the radar of any but the most diehard Dworkinite contributors. Justice will be able to make the call relatively free of interference from the political folks. And I think what they'll do is very quietly let it drop.
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#277109 - 09/24/07 04:22 PM
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Internet Tough Guy
Registered: 07/14/06
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Clearly, Max needs to shut the fuck up, as in yesterday, and his attorneys are doing him a disservice in allowing him to continue shooting his mouth off.
I don't know, seems Larry Flint's lawyers tried the same thing (shut up Flint) and look how far that got them. No, sadly I feel Max's case has already been decided, the powers that be are just going through the motions. Max's only hope is to aggravate them into making more visible mistakes!
Max's rights aren't trespassed on until someone sees them do it.
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#277110 - 09/24/07 04:39 PM
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the guy's crusade may as well be your right to shoot pandas, most people are going to be repulsed to the point they don't care about championing his rights to be a bad person.
the money's coming from women's libs and their husbands right now, they're not dworkinish. not cut and dry by any means. mom mom's in that category and votes that way and she's absolutely convict max simply because she has a daughter, she realizes there were some vague rules in place and he couldn't even intelligently skirt them. she sees someone bent on wasting time and money and larry flynt beat him to it already without the sheer tastelessness. if he wasn't on a death wish with this thing and he could muzzle himself,i still don't think 50-60 y/o chicks with kids and degrees aren't going to be good democrats on the jury. he's everything they hate.
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Martin Amis "honoring" katie price with a character bearing some of her traits
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#277111 - 09/24/07 04:43 PM
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Sex Slave Trader
Registered: 01/10/06
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I seriously doubt Max is on the radar of any but the most diehard Dworkinite contributors.
I agree with most of what you've written here Jim, but I believe a Clinton administration will have a healthy helping of New Dworkinites, on bureaucratic/philosophical and DOJ levels. These will be the people who had virtually no voice during the Bill years. Just wait...the feminist outlashing is nigh. (I "worked" with or, rather, listened to, The Dworkin herself in the early 90s. Heh-heh.)
And I think Rudy could get the nomination, simply for fear of Romney/Thompson losing to old Wellesley '69.
Max could be a goner under Dems OR Repubs.
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#277112 - 09/24/07 04:44 PM
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Max Hardcore Prison Bitch
Registered: 01/30/07
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the guy's crusade may as well be your right to shoot pandas, most people are going to be repulsed to the point they don't care about championing his rights to be a bad person.
Exactly. I defy you to find me a jury, even from California (hell, even from porn valley), that won't be horrified by any one of his videos (pick one at random). Especially if they have children themselves (or ever was a child). I'll say it again, he's done. I'm only amazed he got away with it as long as he did.
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#277113 - 09/24/07 04:52 PM
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Hell, with any jury in the Northern District of Florida he'll lose. No question. They could get twelve blind child molesters and he'd still lose. Juries run with their emotions, plain and simple.
But I never said Max could win at trial.
Where Max can win is at the appellate level, IF a less theologically based DOJ were to be ensconced by the time the case makes it's way to the 11th Circuit. That's where you definately could see an amicable deal worked out. Because in the scheme of things, I don't see Max, or Obscenity in general, being so high on Clinton DOJ's list of priorities tht they'ed want to fight it all the way to the Supreme Court. And you know Max would.
So, again, the best thing for Max's lawyers to do, besides muzzling him, is to delay trial as long as they can, thus pushing the appellate rounds into the next administration.
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#277114 - 09/24/07 05:21 PM
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Registered: 05/16/07
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Loc: Sun Diego
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it'd be a major coup for a lot of women to take down someone who's pretty easy to demonize, max's lawyers need to shut up max and realize even dems are willing to put the fix in if it makes hte right statement.
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if he wasn't on a death wish with this thing and he could muzzle himself,i still don't think 50-60 y/o chicks with kids and degrees aren't going to be good democrats on the jury.
James, you gave me shit in the other thread that no one cares about FSC...yet your bring up Max's lawyer for doing such a shitty job...
The same Jeffrey Douglas who's Max's defense lawyer and did not put the kibosh on this appearance (if you feel it was so detrimental) is also Board Chair of Free Speech Coalition. A number of people in the past have commented that these interests conflict quite a bit, not always for the better, or that FSC business gets clouded up whenever Max is in the news.
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I don't know, seems Larry Flint's lawyers tried the same thing (shut up Flint) and look how far that got them.
There's one difference between Flynt and Max; Flynt never gave up and (not until rather recently) rarely gave into plea bargains. Flynt's most sizable legal victories were because he always felt right and would rather spend a million bucks in legal fees than pay a judgment a fraction of that; Flynt v. Falwell could have been settled ten different times in lower courts (and saved millions in legal fees for him) but it would have never reached the Supreme and been the monumental judgment it was.
Max didn't get off scott free in Los Angeles in 2004; after the jury split in 2002 he settled to pay a fine and not distribute said titles in California for three years (which was similar to what JM had accepted previously for similar charges, right?) Flynt would have never settled for that and would have fought that up the courts for certain. Max settled though and missed an opportunity for an obscenity case to go up the legal system if he had exhibited Flynt's stubbornness and maybe have a stronger legal precedent going into the current shit storm given it originated out of liberal old California and not po-dunk North Florida like today. Remember, the Miller case which has defined all this legal obscenity bullshit came right out of Newport Beach, California back in the early 70s (my home town out of coincidence); Max could have attempted that same hat trick thirty years later.
There's a billion variables in Max's case right now; I wouldn't be at all surprised if still being debated prior to the next Presidential election...of 2012. 
I'll try and catch the interview on Stern tonight; stupid Sirius car radio means I gotta drive my ass around for an hour at $3.25 a gallon to catch it. 
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#277115 - 09/24/07 09:08 PM
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[quote I don't believe this country will elect a woman or a nignog.
Deadlocked convention, lots of media coverage, locked door sessions with delegates split evenly...door opens....out walks Al Gore to accept nom and unite the party.
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