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#273002 - 09/09/07 05:03 PM
Millionaire Pornstars
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Internet Tough Guy
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Luke Ford posts: "Lori (Michaels) left 3.7 million to her three little nieces and one nephew." How many pornstars actually manage to become millionaires? How do they accomplish that?
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#273004 - 09/09/07 05:33 PM
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Porn Jesus
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For the past 2 weeks, I keep getting 'your browser does not support...' when I click a lukeisback link.
And who is Lori Michaels?
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#273005 - 09/09/07 05:40 PM
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#273006 - 09/09/07 06:01 PM
Re: Millionaire Pornstars
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Gay For Pay
Registered: 08/30/07
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Luke Ford posts: "Lori (Michaels) left 3.7 million to her three little nieces and one nephew."
How many pornstars actually manage to become millionaires? How do they accomplish that?
First of all, until somebody like Luke Ford, Mike South, or AVN verify with the alleged lawyer that this chick is actually dead I would call any alleged "wealth" suspect at best. But the figure given isn't all that surprising. Investing in land is a no brainier and "millionaire" isn't that esteemed of a status in todays world. The fact is that their are more "millionaires" in the United Stated today than ever before.
My grand parents owned a Farm/Ranch of 600 acres and retired in 1980. At the time he had about 500,000 in the bank and sold his land for 300,000. My grand father passed along 15 years ago and My grandmother lives comfortably on what ever she has in her bank. She still owns 100 acres of land and somebody offered her mill or that. (all my Aunts and uncles seemed keen on her keeping it) Further more, just last year VERIZON offered to lease the 3 acres her house is on so they could put up a Wireless tower for 20 years there. They offered her 200k. If Lori were in fact dead she would only have had to buy ANY type of real estate to have accumulated a nice nest egg.
It should actually be an easy task for A named Porn star. Putting it on contemporary Terms. Established Performers Like Jenna Haze, Gina Lynn, and others on that level should come across substantial incomes with their Scenes, public appearances, feature club dancing, and various other net sources(ESCORTING>>>WINK>>>WINK).
How many of today's stars that are considered hot( Amy Reid, Bree Olson,)can reach that same level?
I remember a few yeas ago when Asia Carrera was all the rage for her "investing strategy" but that was the day of the "day trader tech stock luck boxes". They were "TRADERS" not "INVESTORS". When her hubby kicked the bucket recently she was all a muss about her pending financial demise and was BEGGING FOR DONATIONS ON HER SITE. It was only some "forgotten" life insurance policy that saved her from becoming a homeless waif(Nahh..she would have made a "comeback" and rented out her panache for Bella Models or something)
Lets face it, the phenomena that WAS Jenna Jameson is just not likely to happen EVER AGAIN. Today's market more than ever is flooded with fly by night "talents" that get sucked dry and have their bones picked clean by the industry in just weeks. So if a "smart" person like Asia Carrera could so poorly manage her income then to days girl like Mia Rose shouldn't have a prayer.
TO MUCH BLING in their lives.
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#273007 - 09/09/07 09:02 PM
Re: Millionaire Pornstars
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Porn Jesus
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I like this guy.
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#273008 - 09/10/07 02:15 AM
Re: Millionaire Pornstars
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Whoremaster
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But the figure given isn't all that surprising. Investing in land is a no brainier and "millionaire" isn't that esteemed of a status in todays world. The fact is that their are more "millionaires" in the United Stated today than ever before.
With the current weak dollar exchange rate, $1 million US is roughly £500,000 Sterling, which means even some one with a modest buy-to-rent property portfolio in the UK could very easily become a dollar millionaire...I've no doubt the same applies to the US if you have the right property in the right location.
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It should actually be an easy task for A named Porn star. Putting it on contemporary Terms. Established Performers Like Jenna Haze, Gina Lynn, and others on that level should come across substantial incomes with their Scenes, public appearances, feature club dancing, and various other net sources(ESCORTING>>>WINK>>>WINK).
How many of today's stars that are considered hot( Amy Reid, Bree Olson,)can reach that same level?
They can definitely earn the money...with scenes averaging out at about $1,000 a pop (sometimes more if more is required or the girl has a higher rate, like an Amy Ried), working 4 days a week and taking 3 off, that's a little over $200,000 per annum. More if they work more/do more.
The real trick is 1) Can they save any of it or invest it wisely and 2) can they manage their career with an eye on longevity, i.e., holding off on certain acts so that they have a fall back option if work in other niches/genres dry up?
The evidence to date would suggest 'No!'.
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I remember a few yeas ago when Asia Carrera was all the rage for her "investing strategy" but that was the day of the "day trader tech stock luck boxes". They were "TRADERS" not "INVESTORS". When her hubby kicked the bucket recently she was all a muss about her pending financial demise and was BEGGING FOR DONATIONS ON HER SITE. It was only some "forgotten" life insurance policy that saved her from becoming a homeless waif
Case in point...and Asia Carrera was no flash-in-the-pan, flavour of the month gonzo starlet either. Perhaps we need a new FLoP, or maybe a XXX Lexicon, because whenever I hear a girl say 'I'm saving all my earnings', it immediately translates to me as 'I'm spending it all on handbags, drugs, or stuff with Hello Kitty on it.'
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Lets face it, the phenomena that WAS Jenna Jameson is just not likely to happen EVER AGAIN. Today's market more than ever is flooded with fly by night "talents" that get sucked dry and have their bones picked clean by the industry in just weeks.
As I've stated before, another Jenna Jameson could definitely happen, and more importantly probably needs to happen. But that's something the studios need to work out amongst themselves...as it currently stands, whoever the 'Next Jenna' may be, she is not in the industry as we speak.
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#273010 - 09/10/07 12:35 PM
Re: Millionaire Pornstars
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Max Hardcore Prison Bitch
Registered: 07/28/06
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Loc: Malibu
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Lori Michaels iafd page. She was a Vivid Girl for most of her career.
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#273011 - 09/10/07 02:16 PM
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Porn Jesus
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I don't understand why Nick 'Wall Street Millionaire' Manning hasn't been mentioned yet.
Droppin' Fuckin' Stocks!
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#273015 - 09/10/07 06:16 PM
Re: Millionaire Pornstars
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Max Hardcore Prison Bitch
Registered: 07/17/07
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How many sex laborers, at any stage in their careers, actually shoot 200 scenes a year? And for how many years? It just seems unrealistic to me, but I'd be happy to be corrected...
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#273016 - 09/11/07 12:38 AM
Re: Millionaire Pornstars
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Porn Jesus
Registered: 08/03/03
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Loc: TX, USA
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If Lori were in fact dead she would only have had to buy ANY type of real estate to have accumulated a nice nest egg.
It's not that easy.
First of all there is this minor problem of property taxes. Secondly, the value of land doesn't always go up when you want to sell. Thirdly there can be a fair amount of "maintenance" even on idle land.
In 1999 I bought a weekend retreat from a guy who was selling then because it was the first time in 15 years he wasn't underwater on his loan. And when I had it appraised in 2005 it was worth exactly what I paid, not one penny more. I pay little property tax since I maintain it as a wildlife refuge but even that costs several thousand dollars a year, plus dealing with tree diseases, fires from neighbors doing (ahem) "controlled" burns, the crazy old man who sometimes shoots deer on my property from over the fence but can't see well enough to distinguish any large mammal such as me from a deer, and an endless procession of entities wanting easements, right-of-ways, etc, etc, etc.
Land is a good way to go since they aren't making any more it but it's not pain-free or a sure thing, and definitely not for short-term investors. Few porn stars fit the profile of a successful land investor...
Porn stars just don't make that much anyway. For a brief period they earn as much as a good engineer with some experience. They do it without spending four years in college and another 5-10 gaining seniority and experience but they also don't get to do it very long. An anal queen who works every single day will do a bit better, until her ass falls out anyway. But the performing years just don't last long enough to get into the "millionaire" status.
And if there are any millionaire porn stars it may not be easy to tell because they'll be among the ones who don't have a nice car, don't live in a fancy apartment/house, don't have nice handbags or shoes, etc... You can't spend your way to riches.
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#273018 - 09/11/07 01:03 AM
Re: Millionaire Pornstars
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Porn Jesus
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First, well said JRV.
Second. the ONLY sex workers (Escorts, Strippers, etc.) I know who are now "financially well off" (and by that I mean at least a nice home and a net worth over 750K) are the ones who ALSO had another, legitimate lucrative career or business on the side, like a stripper in Vegas who is also a Pediatric critical care Nurse down in San Diego, or a stripper in San Jose who is also a real estate agent. The only exception to this rule is the escort who does find the sugar daddy who loves the way she looks up at him while he whacks off into her mouth, and ends up marrying him and gets a couple mil (or more) from the pre-nup.
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#273019 - 09/11/07 01:15 AM
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I would not be surprised if Hannah Harper had accumulated a tidy sum. She's been at it a long time (for one in her profession), seems to stay out of trouble, and by all accounts, is level-headed and sane. She's kept her looks, works hard, and seems to have planned her career keeping in mind a long-term perspective.
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#273021 - 09/11/07 03:06 AM
Re: Millionaire Pornstars
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Whoremaster
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They can definitely earn the money...with scenes averaging out at about $1,000 a pop (sometimes more if more is required or the girl has a higher rate, like an Amy Ried), working 4 days a week and taking 3 off, that's a little over $200,000 per annum. More if they work more/do more.
At that rate, how long until they are shot-out and the phone stops ringing? How many would even reach a full year to make that $200k?
That's where this part comes in:
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2) can they manage their career with an eye on longevity, i.e., holding off on certain acts so that they have a fall back option if work in other niches/genres dry up?
Now, bearing in mind FLoP #1, I believe Aria AKA Marie Silva told Luke Ford she was making somewhere around that amount a year whilst she was in porn (of course, she didn't save or invest any of it, but that's not the point). If I'm being charitable, I wouldn't say she was anything particularly special to look at and was never one of the 'hot' gonzo girls of her day, but she obviously worked fairly steadily...as the saying goes, the candle that burns twice as bright burns half as long.
By the way, surely Peter North must be comfortably in the seven-figures-plus range by now?
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#273026 - 09/11/07 08:32 PM
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Max Hardcore Prison Bitch
Registered: 07/17/07
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You don't see many girls on IAFD with more than 400 films, and many with far fewer. So that's just 400K tops for a career. How much can feature dancing and all the extras add to this for a whore.
And how much does a career Vivid whore make, all told?
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#273027 - 09/11/07 08:39 PM
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Porn Jesus
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They do scenes that aren't in "movies" just on the web. Not that the number is going to double or anything. Just noting it as a fact and moving on ...
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#273028 - 09/11/07 11:19 PM
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Stormy's Lawyer
Registered: 08/19/07
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I think that everything is about timing...like the song says;
"I was in the right place, but it most have been the wrong time" There's isn't going to be another FTVgirls.com or another bangbus.com or another Jenna Jameson...they came at the right time and banked. This month is my first year in the industry and I shot a little over 100 scenes (of which only about 30 movies I am getting credit for) So it should give you a better idea on how many a girl like Roxy (who was mentioned earlier in the post) really might have. If it shows almost 300 movies she might really have 700 or 800 shoots...
...the only way to get a really good income is with a combination of; website, shoots, feature, and yes, for some, escorting is always an option! Now that adds up to a pretty penny, but not a millionaire yet... Another couple of years to go...
(Just fucking around guys...XOXO)
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#273030 - 09/11/07 11:37 PM
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#273031 - 09/11/07 11:48 PM
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Max Hardcore Prison Bitch
Registered: 07/17/07
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I think that everything is about timing...like the song says; "I was in the right place, but it most have been the wrong time" There's isn't going to be another FTVgirls.com or another bangbus.com or another Jenna Jameson...they came at the right time and banked. This month is my first year in the industry and I shot a little over 100 scenes (of which only about 30 movies I am getting credit for) So it should give you a better idea on how many a girl like Roxy (who was mentioned earlier in the post) really might have. If it shows almost 300 movies she might really have 700 or 800 shoots... ...the only way to get a really good income is with a combination of; website, shoots, feature, and yes, for some, escorting is always an option! Now that adds up to a pretty penny, but not a millionaire yet... Another couple of years to go... (Just fucking around guys...XOXO)
Gotta give you credit--that's just a great fucking picture.
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#273032 - 09/11/07 11:55 PM
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apparently you cheap fucks havent yet learned to make it rain on these hard working entrepeneurs
CMON http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EOcz0OcA83c
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#273033 - 09/12/07 08:40 AM
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Internet Tough Guy
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although i am not privy to some inside financial data, in the entire course of my porn career, i think i know 2 female performer including contract girls, gonzo girls, and male performers (excluding jules jordan and ben english of course) that meet the following criteria
1. an actual house that people have seen her in that she owns. many girls own houses in other states (allegedly).
2. more than 1 automobile that she has owned for more than the length of a lease contract.
3. never talks about owing money, or paying bills. she just pays them and moves forward.
4. makes actual sense when talking about investment strategies and longterm financial security decisions. and has a financial planner that i have physically met.
anything outside of this constitutes the blustery musings of someone who believes their own bullshit stories. i get a lot of flack sometimes for being too negative toward believing things that people say about their wealth. after living in vegas, i realized that 95% of people lie about their success. there are 2 sayings in vegas....
Vegas wasnt built on winners
Whatever someone tells you they won, cut in half. Whatever someone tells you they lost, double it.
ChristianXXX are you a millionaire yet? The only thing you spend money on is WoW membership at $20/month, a gym membership at $29.95/mo, a $250 car lease, and a $1200/mo apartment. You don't do drugs. You don't smoke. You rarely drink. Derek takes you places for free or even pays you to hang with him. Most of your scenes you get paid above average (for male talent) for because of their specialty. You never have a girlfriend to spend money on. You don't need to pay for dick or pussy because you are getting it all the time on camera.
All that said, and with you working 20 times a month, you really must be close to a millionaire status by now. In fact, I can't see how you couldn't become a millionaire in this business - even at 8% interest. You are like a Jewish Mr. Clean who likes things inside his butt. What is even better, is even if you were a millionaire by now, you would keep it a secret and not tell anyone how much money you had. You wouldn't want to become a target.
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#273035 - 09/12/07 12:59 PM
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ChristianXXX are you a millionaire yet? The only thing you spend money on is WoW membership at $20/month, a gym membership at $29.95/mo, a $250 car lease, and a $1200/mo apartment. You don't do drugs. You don't smoke. You rarely drink. Derek takes you places for free or even pays you to hang with him. Most of your scenes you get paid above average (for male talent) for because of their specialty. You never have a girlfriend to spend money on. You don't need to pay for dick or pussy because you are getting it all the time on camera.
All that said, and with you working 20 times a month, you really must be close to a millionaire status by now. In fact, I can't see how you couldn't become a millionaire in this business - even at 8% interest. You are like a Jewish Mr. Clean who likes things inside his butt. What is even better, is even if you were a millionaire by now, you would keep it a secret and not tell anyone how much money you had. You wouldn't want to become a target.
You forgot his addiction to replica soccer shirts...those things aren't cheap.
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#273037 - 09/12/07 07:51 PM
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Internet Tough Guy
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i didnt make jackshit for 7 years after college.
Mr. Clean, Mr. Clean, Mr Clean.... cleans up.
"clean up" 1. To make clean or orderly. (check) 2. To make oneself clean, neat, or presentable. (check) 3. To dispose of; settle: cleaned up the unpaid bills. (check) 4. Slang To make a large profit, often in a short period of time: cleaned up during porn career. (check)
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#273038 - 09/12/07 09:26 PM
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Internet Tough Guy
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I am very rich from porn myself. It pays to be an insider. In fact, I think I can make a statement about who is and who isn't rich in porn. Give me some time to contemplate it. Tricia - what is your prenup? I will write that into my assessment.
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#273039 - 09/13/07 12:48 PM
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Max Hardcore Prison Bitch
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Christian,
What about Stormy Daniels? Is she a millionaire?
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#273041 - 09/13/07 08:24 PM
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Internet Tough Guy
Registered: 01/27/07
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Loc: Snottsdale, Arizona
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I would love to fuck Katarina in the ass. She is a dirty looking whore.
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#273042 - 09/13/07 08:44 PM
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Stormy's Lawyer
Registered: 08/19/07
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I would love to fuck Katarina in the ass. She is a dirty looking whore.
You wanna fuck this ass babe? Careful don't hurt yourself, this is for illustration purposes only...lol...
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#273048 - 09/13/07 09:03 PM
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Stormy's Lawyer
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Katarina do you know Natalya?
Which one babe????...lol...I know quite a few but they are all circus performers, none in porn...
Vanessa, thank you...that was very sweet of you...and of course, much more flattering! XOXO
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#273049 - 09/13/07 11:41 PM
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Pervert
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Christian,
What about Stormy Daniels? Is she a millionaire?
puhleeze
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#273051 - 09/14/07 12:15 AM
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