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Hey Dan,

As someone who has been lurking on this board and the mm board for a couple years on an almost daily basis, I feel that I am pretty knowledgeable about both boards. Furthermore, as someone who has been on torrent, ptp, etc. for about 7 yrs I feel that I have a great grasp of the community. I would like to say your analysis of the mm board is a bit off. Mostly because a large percentage of the posters there are not that knowledgeable about filesharing snf go about it incredibly slowly and inefficiently in addition to rehashing the same topics frequently. St best, they rely on about 5-10 people on the board to post scenes occasionally and the majority of which are dated and are past their profit making shelf life.




If they are so dated, why do people want to watch them? Secondly, if people do still want to watch them, then that would suggest to me that their profit making shelf life is still going...if people were prepared to pay to watch them, that is.

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I can tell you as someone who dls porn freely that a greater percentage of revenue is lost on torrent sites each day than through that board for all genres, not just interracial. MM members tend to post dated scenes after the entire movie has been out in the torrent community for days to months. They are not the initial distributor of the pirated material, merely a tertiary and beyond pirate and inefficient ones at that. As someone who prefers recent interacial releases, I know better than to bother with that board. Mainly, I go there for the rare interesting topic or baffle at the tired refrain out out by them.




Whichever way you want to slice it, it's still piracy, although I do agree with you that torrent sites are just as big a problem.

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I do agree that it is silly for people to both complain of the lack of interest of performers to do that kind of scene and simultaneously limit the main reason that producers would make and distribute the film by stealing it in a sense.




No 'sense' about it...it is stealing. But you have grasped the nettle of the issue vis a vis how piracy will affect producers and thus the type of porn that gets produced.

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However, the accusation that the mm board is costing interracial porn makers millions is an exagerration.




How many views is the B5fan movie thread up to now? Must be close to 4 million, I would guess...do you think people look at that thread for the scintillating conversation? Rather than go worst case scenario and equate each page view with one lost DVD sale at either wholesale or retail, let me take it the other way and instead attribute a nominal, trifling 50 cent loss for each page view (averaged out...some will do more financial damge than others). That's getting on into the region of $2 million lost sales in the IR genre alone, and like I say, that's the best case scenario. If you cut it down to just 25 cents, it's still a cool million bucks.

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On the contrary, I would contend that a larger percentage of income was lost due to torrent sites that post day of the release and affects all genres than to that board. Moreover, I think that the actual amount lost to that board is minimal because of the long delay before anything is posted and the technological ignorance of much of the community.

That's just my two cents as a user of all of the current social networking technologies.





Piracy on a niche specific board is a lot more damaging because it is targeted. You want to watch an interracial scene for free. Let's say there are 1000 scenes available on the torrent site (a simplification, but bear with it)...what percentage of those scenes will be interracial, given all of the wonderfully diverse niches and genres that make up porn? Certainly less than 10%.

Now you go to a niche-specific site like the MM forum, and guess what...100% of what's available is what you're looking for. It's simple math.

Personally, I couldn't give a shit either way...if IR fans want to put the producers in the poorhouse, so be it. I prefer features anyway. It's just having to put up with tritone's constant whining and inability to see the bigger picture which pisses me (and most of the rest of the board) off.