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#268913 - 08/23/07 09:32 PM
Re: Why Alektra Blue isnt as popular as Taylor Rai
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Porn Fucking Master
Registered: 05/18/06
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Alright, And I agree with a previous poster --
Umm..!You can call me Richard...
She looks like Hailey Young after about twenty-five cheese burgers and a bad tit job.
does anyone else see a striking resemblance to melissa lauren (when meliss is brunette, of course)...?
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#268914 - 08/23/07 09:41 PM
Re: Why Alektra Blue isnt as popular as Taylor Rai
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Porn Jesus
Registered: 03/22/06
Posts: 6557
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whenever I watch a scene with alektra her hair is so thin and wispy it looks like she's going bald. the tit job is a minus also, imo. I'm no fan of TMFR, but I'd watch her over alektra anyday.
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#268917 - 08/24/07 10:36 AM
Re: Why Alektra Blue isnt as popular as Taylor Rai
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Whoremaster
Registered: 10/21/05
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Hey Dan,
As someone who has been lurking on this board and the mm board for a couple years on an almost daily basis, I feel that I am pretty knowledgeable about both boards. Furthermore, as someone who has been on torrent, ptp, etc. for about 7 yrs I feel that I have a great grasp of the community. I would like to say your analysis of the mm board is a bit off. Mostly because a large percentage of the posters there are not that knowledgeable about filesharing snf go about it incredibly slowly and inefficiently in addition to rehashing the same topics frequently. St best, they rely on about 5-10 people on the board to post scenes occasionally and the majority of which are dated and are past their profit making shelf life.
If they are so dated, why do people want to watch them? Secondly, if people do still want to watch them, then that would suggest to me that their profit making shelf life is still going...if people were prepared to pay to watch them, that is.
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I can tell you as someone who dls porn freely that a greater percentage of revenue is lost on torrent sites each day than through that board for all genres, not just interracial. MM members tend to post dated scenes after the entire movie has been out in the torrent community for days to months. They are not the initial distributor of the pirated material, merely a tertiary and beyond pirate and inefficient ones at that. As someone who prefers recent interacial releases, I know better than to bother with that board. Mainly, I go there for the rare interesting topic or baffle at the tired refrain out out by them.
Whichever way you want to slice it, it's still piracy, although I do agree with you that torrent sites are just as big a problem.
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I do agree that it is silly for people to both complain of the lack of interest of performers to do that kind of scene and simultaneously limit the main reason that producers would make and distribute the film by stealing it in a sense.
No 'sense' about it...it is stealing. But you have grasped the nettle of the issue vis a vis how piracy will affect producers and thus the type of porn that gets produced.
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However, the accusation that the mm board is costing interracial porn makers millions is an exagerration.
How many views is the B5fan movie thread up to now? Must be close to 4 million, I would guess...do you think people look at that thread for the scintillating conversation? Rather than go worst case scenario and equate each page view with one lost DVD sale at either wholesale or retail, let me take it the other way and instead attribute a nominal, trifling 50 cent loss for each page view (averaged out...some will do more financial damge than others). That's getting on into the region of $2 million lost sales in the IR genre alone, and like I say, that's the best case scenario. If you cut it down to just 25 cents, it's still a cool million bucks.
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On the contrary, I would contend that a larger percentage of income was lost due to torrent sites that post day of the release and affects all genres than to that board. Moreover, I think that the actual amount lost to that board is minimal because of the long delay before anything is posted and the technological ignorance of much of the community.
That's just my two cents as a user of all of the current social networking technologies.
Piracy on a niche specific board is a lot more damaging because it is targeted. You want to watch an interracial scene for free. Let's say there are 1000 scenes available on the torrent site (a simplification, but bear with it)...what percentage of those scenes will be interracial, given all of the wonderfully diverse niches and genres that make up porn? Certainly less than 10%.
Now you go to a niche-specific site like the MM forum, and guess what...100% of what's available is what you're looking for. It's simple math.
Personally, I couldn't give a shit either way...if IR fans want to put the producers in the poorhouse, so be it. I prefer features anyway. It's just having to put up with tritone's constant whining and inability to see the bigger picture which pisses me (and most of the rest of the board) off.
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#268918 - 08/24/07 05:45 PM
Re: Why Alektra Blue isnt as popular as Taylor Rai
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Porn Jesus
Registered: 01/25/06
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I reject this argument because a midget is different enough from a normal-height person that such objections may be understandable.
Which is EXACTLY why you're a race baiter. You don't believe anything is wrong with the act, only the girls who refuse to perform in it.
So, if you're not a racist, are you some kind of free-love asswipe who believes that people should fuck anyone & everything? Or, is it that race should be totally disqualified from the why & why nots of the grown adult decisions people make regarding whom they fuck?..and therefore shouldn't be an issue of sexual attraction whatsoever?
Get a fucking clue, toolbag.
Nigga pleez! I beez votin' fo' da affirmative actions in porn, who be wif me?
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*EDIT: What if she doesn't wanna fuck a BLACK MIDGET???
VOD, it MUST be because the little fucker is black.
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Mostly because a large percentage of the posters ... in addition to rehashing the same topics frequently.
Yeah, Tritone whines about ONE of those same topics here.
I don't think DanG said ANYWHERE that the users of the Mr. Marcus forum are costing anyone "millions of dollars". He basically said that piracy as a whole (which costs millions in sales) is accepted there, and whatever spook runs the forum, allows it - as I interpreted it.
BTW, is "download" too long a word to spell in it's entirety? Your typing is worse than someone who prefers to TXT rather than using the fucking phone to make a call!
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#268919 - 08/24/07 08:46 PM
Re: Why Alektra Blue isnt as popular as Taylor Rai
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Registered: 02/24/06
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I,m fuckin stumped...What the fuck are you people talking about...????
Edited by Richard Hungwell (08/24/07 08:47 PM)
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#268920 - 08/25/07 01:52 AM
Re: Why Alektra Blue isnt as popular as Taylor Rai
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Whoremaster
Registered: 10/21/05
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I don't think DanG said ANYWHERE that the users of the Mr. Marcus forum are costing anyone "millions of dollars". He basically said that piracy as a whole (which costs millions in sales) is accepted there, and whatever spook runs the forum, allows it - as I interpreted it.
No, I am explicitly saying that there is one thread on the Mr. Marcus forum which by itself will have deprived the industry out of at least a couple million bucks.
A quick check of the first 12 pages of that forum at 9.20 am GMT shows the following threads, all dedicated to pirating scenes and/or full movies:
B5fan 3,876,019
Doga 805,997
Jennifer Bush 654,318
ataxx 116,432
Classic 1,219,761
Buttman 270,405
Alcaponi 102,103
misanthrope 802,366
LWCBBMD 211,984
exploited moms 209,321
There are a ton of others that are under the 100,000 views, but most of them have at least 40,000 views.
Just totting up the ones listed above gives us a total of 8,248,706 views. Bearing in mind that most views will result in a download, the worst case scenario is that each download constitutes a lost DVD sale or VOD sale.
If we attribute a nominal loss value of just one dollar to each page view (when in reality it is probably much larger), these ten threads account for just over $8 million dollars in lost revenue/sales in one particular niche.
Now, even if you halve the nominal value 3 times until you get down to each page view representing just 12 and a bit cents, it's still going to be over a million bucks gone bye-bye. That's a hefty chunk of change in anyone's language. And that's from just one forum, and there are plenty of other threads and posts I didn't bother to count.
The reality is that those page views and subsequent downloads are actually a damn sight more costly than a buck. But don't tell tritone that...
Oh, by the way, I believe the 'spook' running the Mr. Marcus forum is actually a white guy.
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#268921 - 08/26/07 12:25 AM
Re: Why Alektra Blue isnt as popular as Taylor Rai
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AC Cream Wannabe
Registered: 10/04/06
Posts: 522
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they're both ugly no talent skanks. who the fuck cares if one is more popular than the other?
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