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#263502 - 07/30/07 11:16 AM Do I hear Jack boots on the Left?
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#263503 - 07/30/07 01:55 PM Re: Do I hear Jack boots on the Left?
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Dumbshits, nobody is going to pull their advertising when it is on the highest rated network. Get people to actually watch MSNBC if you want to do something about Fox's advertising.

These fucktards need to remember this little thing called freedom of choice. That means the decision about who or what to believe belongs to me, not MoveOn.org or Daily Kos.
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#263504 - 07/30/07 02:39 PM Re: Do I hear Jack boots on the Left?
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I should be amused by this, since I hate Kos about as much as I hate FOX. But it's not fun anymore watching both sides fove further to the extremes. Demolition Derby Drivers don't rubberneck.

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#263505 - 07/30/07 05:51 PM Re: Do I hear Jack boots on the Left?
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Kos didn't fire the first shots in this one.

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#263506 - 07/30/07 06:12 PM Re: Do I hear Jack boots on the Left?
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Kos didn't fire the first shots in this one.




I think it's a safe bet that the Daily Kos had fired a lot of shots at Fox News long before the Daily Kos showed up on Fox News's radar.
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#263507 - 07/30/07 07:24 PM Re: Do I hear Jack boots on the Left?
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The thing about Orally is that all you need to do is post his clips or quotes or sexual harrassment cases and he loses it. can't mute everybody's mike...

comparing KOS to FOX is silly...KOS is community driven and very grassroots while FOX is Corporate/Government Propoghanda. Orally is just funny and shouldn't be taken seriously. Shouldn't he be declaring war on a holiday or something?


oh yeah Ted Stevens hahaha hope there are tubes in prison
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#263508 - 07/30/07 07:48 PM Re: Do I hear Jack boots on the Left?
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Well by first shots I meant pulling advertising or sponsorship. O'reilly got Jet Blue to pull the plug on being involved with yearly kos. I don't believe Kos was trying to get any advertisers to bail on Fox before this happened.

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#263509 - 07/30/07 08:33 PM Re: Do I hear Jack boots on the Left?
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#263510 - 07/30/07 09:40 PM Re: Do I hear Jack boots on the Left?
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In think it was moveon.org that was behind the Fox thing. That said, its real funny that John Edwards was screaming "they" wanted to shut him up. Hey John, its your people dusting off the "fairness" doctrine.
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#263511 - 07/31/07 07:35 AM Re: Do I hear Jack boots on the Left?
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KOS is community driven and very grassroots while FOX is Corporate/Government Propoghanda.




While this is indeed true, it does not mean that "comparing KOS to FOX is silly." Far from it. The level of hysteria on both sides is about equal. Fox may be slicker, KOS more homespun, but in the end, both sides are moving further and further to the extremes as 2008 approaches. Ain't nobody with common sense left.

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#263512 - 07/31/07 10:10 AM Re: Do I hear Jack boots on the Left?
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Fox News is only extreme in the sense that it isn't run by corporate lefties like those in control of CNN, MSNBC, & most of the mainstream press & corrupt broadcast news media. Daily Kos are just far left anarchist wack jobs who parallel the nutcase fringe nazis on the right. TRUST NOBODY!

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#263513 - 07/31/07 10:13 AM Re: Do I hear Jack boots on the Left?
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The thing about Orally is that all you need to do is post his clips or quotes or sexual harrassment cases and he loses it. can't mute everybody's mike...

comparing KOS to FOX is silly...KOS is community driven and very grassroots while FOX is Corporate/Government Propoghanda. Orally is just funny and shouldn't be taken seriously. Shouldn't he be declaring war on a holiday or something?


oh yeah Ted Stevens hahaha hope there are tubes in prison




Neither one should be taken seriously by anyone over the age of 5.
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#263514 - 07/31/07 06:33 PM Re: Do I hear Jack boots on the Left?
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Every open forum is going to have it's rediculous posts but to call people at Kos Anarchist wack jobs is probably not that accurate. Markos is actually an ex military Reaganite.

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#263515 - 07/31/07 06:52 PM Re: Do I hear Jack boots on the Left?
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I'd call it an insult to Anarchists.

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#263516 - 07/31/07 07:31 PM Re: Do I hear Jack boots on the Left?
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that's crazy...Kos is just grassroot liberals and they focus on news items and comment a lot...now these can sway to the extreme sometimes because it is community driven and written but generally it is just more intensive coverage of things that are being brushed over by the major media (who are hardly lefties...GE owns NBC right?) and they organize and raise funds for candidates and try to get rid of fake Democrats like Lieberman.

KOS is just organized partisans who are changing the way politics is done in this country. The Republicans are not as up to date with the current technology and are scared.

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#263517 - 07/31/07 09:44 PM Re: Do I hear Jack boots on the Left?
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Fox News is only extreme in the sense that it isn't run by corporate lefties like those in control of CNN, MSNBC, & most of the mainstream press & corrupt broadcast news media.




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Kos is just grassroot liberals and they focus on news items and comment a lot...now these can sway to the extreme sometimes because it is community driven and written but generally it is just more intensive coverage of things that are being brushed over by the major media (who are hardly lefties...GE owns NBC right?)




Here we have the problem in a nutshell: Two basically decent guys on a porn board decrying the extremism of each other's favorite news outlet while defending the excesses of their own faves as a necessary and proper reaction against the other guy.

Every News organization begins with a POV. From there, they develop an audience. Eventually, they begin to pander to that audience in order to maintain interest (like a whore eventually doing anal.)

The only realistic solution is to read from a wide variety of news sources, both in terms of viewpoint and location. Then draw your own conclusions. It does no good if you go to one of those sites that claims to cull the news from around the world, because it's still distorted by the filter of their editorial board: What gets posted, what doesnt. You have to do your own legwork.

Nobody thinks their point of view is extreme. Hitler and Stalin each thought themselves to be rational, far-seeing statesmen. They each thought the other guy was a homicidal maniac. And so it goes.

(Full Disclosure: I own stock in GE. And I do like NBC Nightly News. But it's not my only source of information. Not by a long shot.)

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#263518 - 07/31/07 10:01 PM Re: Do I hear Jack boots on the Left?
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Nobody thinks their point of view is extreme. Hitler and Stalin each thought themselves to be rational, far-seeing statesmen. They each thought the other guy was a homicidal maniac. And so it goes.






Godwin's Law right out tha Box! BOOOOM!!!!

Yes there are differing opinions but no one is mentioning collectives or puschts just yet...

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#263519 - 07/31/07 10:09 PM Re: Do I hear Jack boots on the Left?
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Godwin applies when one compares his opponents directly to the Nazis. Here, I use Hitler and his opposite number Stalin as examples of extremists who saw themselves as rational while seeing the other guy as the incarnation of evil.

The truth, as always, is somewhere in the middle.

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#263520 - 08/01/07 12:46 AM Re: Do I hear Jack boots on the Left?
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elaborator defending and supporting kos pretty much substantiates the general opinion of kos
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#263521 - 08/01/07 12:50 AM Re: Do I hear Jack boots on the Left?
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"They each thought the other guy was a homicidal maniac"

Actually, that's not true. At least Stalin admired Hitler's leadership qualities, and I think it's a safe bet that Hitler felt the same way about Stalin.
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#263522 - 08/01/07 03:04 AM Re: Do I hear Jack boots on the Left?
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I'd call it an insult to Anarchists.




Whenever I see ads for an anarchist bookfair in London, I have a recurring fantasy about going in there and flipping over all the tables, stealing books and screaming 'Anarchy! Smash the system!'.

I get the impression that these so-called Anarchists would suddenly become Capitalists when it's their money and property involved...

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#263523 - 08/01/07 04:44 AM Re: Do I hear Jack boots on the Left?
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elaborator defending and supporting kos pretty much substantiates the general opinion of kos




Not to mention Posting on Kos. But again, Kos is no better or worse than Murdoch. And now he owns the WSJ. God help us.


EDIT: Murdoch Buys Wall Street Journal.


Edited by Jim B. (08/01/07 06:53 AM)

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#263524 - 08/01/07 04:49 AM Re: Do I hear Jack boots on the Left?
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Quote:

"They each thought the other guy was a homicidal maniac"

Actually, that's not true. At least Stalin admired Hitler's leadership qualities, and I think it's a safe bet that Hitler felt the same way about Stalin.




To the extent that Stalin warmly approved of Hitler's liquidation of Roehm and the SA at the Night of the Long Knives ("Some fellow, that Hitler,") and went on to exceed him during the purges, you are correct. Hitler never had one kind word for Uncle Joe, though.

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#263525 - 08/01/07 07:25 AM Re: Do I hear Jack boots on the Left?
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Every News organization begins with a POV. From there, they develop an audience. Eventually, they begin to pander to that audience in order to maintain interest (like a whore eventually doing anal.)

The only realistic solution is to read from a wide variety of news sources, both in terms of viewpoint and location. Then draw your own conclusions. It does no good if you go to one of those sites that claims to cull the news from around the world, because it's still distorted by the filter of their editorial board: What gets posted, what doesnt. You have to do your own legwork.






I agree with this but it does not solve the problem of when those news sources do not do any legwork of their own. All three of the network news divisions operate the same way. The head of the news division reads his copy of the New York Times, sees what stories they are focusing on and tells his reporters to do stories on those stories. The effort you make finding the truth in a story rarely goes deeper than the effort the networks make, assuming you do not have access to inside sources.
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#263526 - 08/01/07 08:08 AM Re: Do I hear Jack boots on the Left?
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That's why I read far more news than I watch, and from a much wider variety of sources than just the 3 Networks plus CNN & FOX. Variety meaning both in terms of political viewpoint and in terms of location. Only a multitude of perspectives can give you an idea of what's going on.

The fact that the Big 5 TV News outlets don't do any in depth, beneath the surface reporting is exactly what fuels this extremism, since the pablum they force feed the majority of news consumers is designed to either titilate or to enrage. Murrow is spinning in his grave.

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#263527 - 08/01/07 10:18 AM Re: Do I hear Jack boots on the Left?
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The answer to speech you don't like is more speech. Why don't the liberals start there own propaganda network. Oh yeah, that didn't work too well did it. I can just see the advertisers shaking in their boots as suporters of a bankrupt talk radio netowrk try to convincce them not to advertise on the highest rated news show.

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#263528 - 08/01/07 10:22 AM Re: Do I hear Jack boots on the Left?
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The answer to speech you don't like is more speech. Why don't the liberals start there own propaganda network. Oh yeah, that didn't work too well did it. I can just see the advertisers shaking in their boots as suporters of a bankrupt talk radio netowrk try to convincce them not to advertise on the highest rated news show.






Running the risk of getting controversial here, but the left really doesn't need a propaganda network as much as the conservatives. The core principles of leftist beliefs are all well represented within the mainstream media, although they certainly do not reign supreme. A lot of the stuff conservatives think (like it or not) is not represented. And I don't think it all comes down to something that can be summed up in a smear statement such as 'well that depends on the fact that the left is reality based while the right is bassed on religious mythology and fairytales!!!111!!!!!'.
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#263529 - 08/03/07 08:10 PM Re: Do I hear Jack boots on the Left?
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#263530 - 08/04/07 09:57 PM Re: Do I hear Jack boots on the Left?
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Fox News is only extreme in the sense that it isn't run by corporate lefties like those in control of CNN, MSNBC, & most of the mainstream press & corrupt broadcast news media. Daily Kos are just far left anarchist wack jobs who parallel the nutcase fringe nazis on the right. TRUST NOBODY!






HA! HA! HA!

I nominate the above quoted post as the stupidiest post of the week!

Now, I have to go into bizzaro world and try to figure out what "corporate lefties" mean, because, on first blush, this seems rather oxymoronic...

Also, will have to parse the "far left anarchist wack jobs who parallel the nutcase fringe nazis" statement as opposed to the current Executive Branch's shucking and jiving every time they are ask to testify before Congress...
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#263531 - 08/05/07 12:13 AM Re: Do I hear Jack boots on the Left?
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FOX is Corporate/Government Propoghanda




this is why no one takes either of you seriously
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#263532 - 08/05/07 04:49 AM Re: Do I hear Jack boots on the Left?
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#263533 - 08/05/07 10:50 AM Re: Do I hear Jack boots on the Left?
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this is why no one takes either of you seriously






yeah i did spell it wrong but...

FOXNEWS is to Corporate/government propaganda just as DAILYKOS is to Socialist Anarchists. Don't you find it interesting that KOS wasn't even an issue til Orally brought it up and all of a sudden so many of you are right along with it? How does that happen exactly? THe funny upshot of it tho is when Kos posts the funny all cap inane RightWingNut emails they are getting since Orally brought it all up...talk about Brain Dead Hate Mongers.


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#263534 - 08/05/07 12:05 PM Re: Do I hear Jack boots on the Left?
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I was well aware of Kos's absurdity long before Bill O got the memo about it from the White House.
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#263535 - 08/05/07 01:11 PM Re: Do I hear Jack boots on the Left?
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