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#263081 - 07/29/07 09:56 AM
ASPIRING ADULT DIRECTOR SEEKS ADVICE
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ADT regular
Registered: 05/15/07
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Hi everyone,
I'm a New York based 33 year old professional in mainstream film and TV post-production. I have always fantasized about making adult films. I believe that my creativity and perverted mind combined with my vast technical knowledge of video and film making lend me some potential. However, there are a lot of things I need to figure out. I'm going to post a series of questions here and I'm hoping that people will be kind enough to reply with info and feedback.
THANKS IN ADVANCE!
1. What are some talent agencies that might be willing to work with a new kid on the block such as myself? And what other ways have people had success in finding women willing to perform in adult video? I've looked at sexyjobs.com but it's mostly ugly girls that live in East Buttfuck.
2. I want to work with AIM tested people but I don't live in LA or have money to fly people out from LA. Is there anything like AIM in NY or on the East coast? If not, how do I make sure people are clean?
3. Does anyone have a template of a release form that they can send me?
4. What else do I need besides a release form and 2 valid forms of photo ID (over 18) to make it legal?
5. What are the standard rates for the following:
A. Rough gagging BJ W/ facial?
B. Blow bang.
C. Gangbang.
D. B/G W/ facial
E. B/G W/ facial and anal.
G. B/B/G.
H. B/G/G
I. Girl solo W/ toys.
J. G/G
6. Is it legal to make porn in CA or is there just an unspoken agreement that cops in the San Fernando Valley don't try to arrest pornographers? What about NYC?
I realize these are amatuerish questions and I won't be surprised if I endure some ridicule and sardonic responses. I appreciate anyone taking the time to try and help me.
-n
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#263082 - 07/29/07 10:00 AM
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Porn Jesus
Registered: 06/05/05
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Loc: Great America
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#263083 - 07/29/07 10:12 AM
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Here's some advice: Move to California, which is the only State in the Union where shooting porn is legal, and where all the resources like AIM, agents, and above all, Talent, are located. (There's 18 y/os getting off the bus everyday.)
I'm from New York, know of people who shoot (or claim to shoot) here, and believe that Bloomberg, Kelly and the NYPD wouldn't give a rats ass. But better to be safe.
I think I remember seeing a sample Model release posted a couple of months back. Use the search function.
As for the 2257 requirements, go through the posts of a guy named Pornlaw. His real name is Michael and he's a good guy, very knowledgable as his username would suggest.
Good Luck
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#263085 - 07/29/07 06:49 PM
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Porn Jesus
Registered: 03/28/04
Posts: 4450
Loc: The Planet Houston
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Here's some advice: Move to California, which is the only State in the Union where shooting porn is legal,
What's funny is there are so many people on myspace and the like, claiming their little porn production companies and i'm thinking...do these cats even have a clue? probably not...
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#263086 - 07/29/07 07:25 PM
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Here's some advice: Move to California , which is the only State in the Union where shooting porn is legal, and where all the resources like AIM, agents, and above all, Talent, are located. (There's 18 y/os getting off the bus everyday.)
BINGO!!!! We have a WINNER!!! BTW the unspoken rule is called California v. Freeman.
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#263087 - 07/29/07 09:10 PM
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Porn Jesus
Registered: 09/07/05
Posts: 14160
Loc: NYC
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Don't build a website. Build a TIME MACHINE and go back to the late 90s/early 2000s.
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#263088 - 07/29/07 09:14 PM
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Bukkake Boy
Registered: 04/02/07
Posts: 705
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Don't build a website. Build a TIME MACHINE and go back to the late 90s/early 2000s.
also sell all your nortel network stock before like september/october 00
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#263089 - 07/29/07 09:42 PM
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Don't build a website. Build a TIME MACHINE and go back to the late 90s/early 2000s.
also sell all your nortel network stock before like september/october 00
And take a loooong vacation out of town a year later.
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#263090 - 07/29/07 09:44 PM
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Porn Jesus
Registered: 06/05/05
Posts: 4468
Loc: Great America
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Don't build a website. Build a TIME MACHINE and go back to the late 90s/early 2000s.
its true, is no money in porn
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#263091 - 07/29/07 10:01 PM
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Porn Jesus
Registered: 09/07/05
Posts: 14160
Loc: NYC
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There's money in porn- for performers and companies that started earlier. Slim chance for a new company to start today and break even any time soon. Why risk it? Just stay home and jack off.
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"What I do know is that if Karen Carpenter and Mama Cass Elliot had shared that sandwich they'd both be alive today." -Michael K
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#263092 - 07/29/07 10:15 PM
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Porn Jesus
Registered: 06/05/05
Posts: 4468
Loc: Great America
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There's money in porn- for performers and companies that started earlier. Slim chance for a new company to start today and break even any time soon. Why risk it? Just stay home and jack off.
correction: for new companies, is no money in porn
Edited by elglorioso (07/29/07 10:15 PM)
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#263094 - 07/30/07 03:23 AM
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AC Cream Wannabe
Registered: 05/05/04
Posts: 446
Loc: Los Angeles
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Now, the Star-Belly Sneetches
Had bellies with stars.
The Plain-Belly Sneetches
Had none upon thars.
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#263096 - 07/30/07 02:17 PM
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Anonymous
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Now, the Star-Belly Sneetches
Had bellies with stars.
The Plain-Belly Sneetches
Had none upon thars.
Most intelligent thing I've read all day.
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#263097 - 07/30/07 04:01 PM
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Human Garbage
Registered: 05/08/07
Posts: 1681
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Someone should run a follow-up thread to all the wannabe 'directors/producers' who have come on the site in the last couple of months seeking porn advice.
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#263099 - 08/02/07 04:48 PM
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ADT regular
Registered: 05/15/07
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Hi Stevie,
Thanks for the thoughtful and detailed reply. In your post you mention that female performers doing rough gagging blowjobs get paid "Regular BJ rates plus $1 per rough thrust, $2 if your cock hits the whore's epiglottis." What then is the regular BJ rate? Is there a separate charge for facial? If so, what would that be?
Thanks again.
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#263100 - 08/02/07 04:57 PM
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Porn Jesus
Registered: 09/07/05
Posts: 14160
Loc: NYC
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On the rough gagfactor-ish bjs, the thrusts are hard to count due to the frequency of quick, rapid fire strokes. All reputable companies have a thrust counter. I can sell you mine at 3k. PM me for details. Great condition, barely used.
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"What I do know is that if Karen Carpenter and Mama Cass Elliot had shared that sandwich they'd both be alive today." -Michael K
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#263101 - 08/03/07 02:09 AM
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AC Cream Wannabe
Registered: 08/16/06
Posts: 453
Loc: Las Vegas
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On the rough gagfactor-ish bjs, the thrusts are hard to count due to the frequency of quick, rapid fire strokes. All reputable companies have a thrust counter. I can sell you mine at 3k. PM me for details. Great condition, barely used.
Gia, I will admit this comment, as well as your time machine comment, were both funny, but I dont understand something. Why are the people on this board so unhelpful to men, trying to get into the biz, or starting a company, but will do just about anything to help a girl get in? If anything, it should be the reverse, because all a girl has to do is walk into any directors office, and say she wants to be a pornstar, and its a done deal....a guy trying that...not gonna happen. So they are the ones that really need the help. I know that this isnt the best place to be asking for advice, but the plain simple truth is, there are people who have the information, that this guy is looking for, so why not give it to him? Is it because you all think that the only porn companies that should exist, are the ones that exist now? There are monopolies in the tv, radio, oil, software, etc industries right now, why add porn to that list? Do we really want there to be 3 or 4 companies that make all porn? What happens to prices, at that point? They go up, of course. Furthermore I disagree that this is a bad time to get into the biz. Now, with this wonderful little thing called the internet, producers can sell direct to the consumer, no distributor needed. You could not do that before, its a difference so huge, it just cant be ignored.
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#263102 - 08/03/07 02:53 AM
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Whoremaster
Registered: 10/21/05
Posts: 2710
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Is it because you all think that the only porn companies that should exist, are the ones that exist now? There are monopolies in the tv, radio, oil, software, etc industries right now, why add porn to that list? Do we really want there to be 3 or 4 companies that make all porn? What happens to prices, at that point? They go up, of course. Furthermore I disagree that this is a bad time to get into the biz. Now, with this wonderful little thing called the internet, producers can sell direct to the consumer, no distributor needed. You could not do that before, its a difference so huge, it just cant be ignored.
The overabundance of 'guy-with-a-camcorder' producers/studios is what has cast the market into the current doldrums and the reason DVDs are selling in increasingly lower numbers for increasingly smaller amounts. People aren't getting a piece of the pie anymore, just crumbs, because there are so many noses in the trough nowadays and this affects the rates they can pay, the quality of talent they can attract, and the quality of product they can afford to put out.
Maybe things would be better if there were just a handful of studios run by people who knew what the fuck they were doing?
Having said that, the market will bear out what it can manage...I just get the feeling there's a cull looming on the horizon, a 'levelling of the land' if you will, and a lot of these also-ran studios are going to end up taking the big financial dirtnap. 
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#263103 - 08/03/07 03:11 AM
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AC Cream Wannabe
Registered: 08/16/06
Posts: 453
Loc: Las Vegas
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Maybe we are just going to have to agree to disagree on this one.....but I'll try a little more... I believe competition in the marketplace is a good thing, porn or otherwise. Do you not see my point about other industries? The government has sat by and done nothing to stop merger, after merger, after merger. Look at oil for example, a handful of oil companies=high prices. Its just simple fact. Look at the larger companies anyawy vivid, wicked, etc., that shit is fuckin garbage. I dont want them to the only ones making porn.
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#263104 - 08/03/07 03:50 AM
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Internet Tough Guy
Registered: 07/31/07
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The porno industry is probably one of the markets farthest away from turning into a monopoly EVER. And it wont ever turn into one due to the next to non-existing barriers to entry.
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#263105 - 08/03/07 03:57 AM
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Porn Jesus
Registered: 07/20/03
Posts: 5256
Loc: CSW Wrestling - Gracie Academy
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Why are the people on this board so unhelpful to men, trying to get into the biz, or starting a company, but will do just about anything to help a girl get in? If anything, it should be the reverse, because all a girl has to do is walk into any directors office, and say she wants to be a pornstar, and its a done deal....a guy trying that...not gonna happen. So they are the ones that really need the help.
Its because its a hard business to get into. You got to make your bones as they say. I use to throw dildos in the washing machine, run down to the store and get lube, make sure the lights were setup and the camera batteries were fully charged. You got to start somewhere.
We have heard enough bullshit from people that say they are going to start this, they are going to work on that, I'm negotiating a deal, I'm waitng on investors, yada yada yada.
For the most part, it never happens. Worse part of it is, they are ungrateful. A simple thanks wouldn't hurt. Even when you try to help them out, they think their way is better or they know more than you.
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#263106 - 08/03/07 04:00 AM
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The government has sat by and done nothing to stop merger, after merger, after merger.
Umm, Brandon, the Gov't is not encouraging mergers in the industry. In fact, they're trying to shut people down. 
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Why are the people on this board so unhelpful to men, trying to get into the biz, or starting a company, but will do just about anything to help a girl get in? If anything, it should be the reverse...
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#263108 - 08/03/07 09:18 AM
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Porn Jesus
Registered: 06/05/05
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Why are the people on this board so unhelpful to men, trying to get into the biz, or starting a company, but will do just about anything to help a girl get in? If anything, it should be the reverse, because all a girl has to do is walk into any directors office, and say she wants to be a pornstar, and its a done deal....a guy trying that...not gonna happen. So they are the ones that really need the help.
Its because its a hard business to get into. You got to make your bones as they say. I use to throw dildos in the washing machine, run down to the store and get lube, make sure the lights were setup and the camera batteries were fully charged. You got to start somewhere.
We have heard enough bullshit from people that say they are going to start this, they are going to work on that, I'm negotiating a deal, I'm waitng on investors, yada yada yada.
For the most part, it never happens. Worse part of it is, they are ungrateful. A simple thanks wouldn't hurt. Even when you try to help them out, they think their way is better or they know more than you.
99.9% of those "joes" want to break in porn as "producer/directors" for fuck pornwhores...
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#263109 - 08/03/07 10:24 AM
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Whoremaster
Registered: 10/21/05
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Maybe we are just going to have to agree to disagree on this one.....but I'll try a little more... I believe competition in the marketplace is a good thing, porn or otherwise.
Competition is great, but too much competition is just as damaging as too little. The porno pie hasn't gotten any bigger, but the number of people wanting a piece of it has, thus meaning smaller portions all round.
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Do you not see my point about other industries? The government has sat by and done nothing to stop merger, after merger, after merger. Look at oil for example, a handful of oil companies=high prices. Its just simple fact.
Have you ever been outside of the USA? I think you'll find that in terms of gas prices, America has some of the most reasonably priced stuff around.
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Look at the larger companies anyawy vivid, wicked, etc., that shit is fuckin garbage. I dont want them to the only ones making porn.
 Yawn...typical AZT fanboi logic. Have you ever noticed how these 'shitty' feature companies like Wicked, Vivid, Digital Playground and Adam & Eve keep making tons of money and can afford to put the hottest performers under exclusive contract?
This brings me back to my original point vis a vis 'competition'. I don't believe that feature companies and gonzo companies are competing for the same dollar. There's a little crossover here and there, but by and large, feature and gonzo fans are like apples and oranges.
Gonzo is very easy to do, which is why every horny guy with a camcorder is jumping on the bandwagon in the vain hope of being the next Jules Jordan. Because of its immediacy, gonzo is also a lot more susceptible to online piracy. Feature fans want the total package, with a cohesive storyline, plus all the trimmings like commentaries and BTS...gonzo fans just want to see the fucking without any dramatic pretense or theatrical artifice.
Features, on the other hand, aren't so easy to do, and are a lot more involved than just chick, dick, sofa, suck, fuck, anal, cumshot. Plus those all-important CGI skeletons don't come cheap, either...
Gonzo companies are going to be the ones feeling the pinch, because they have no USP (Unique Selling Point).
YOU:'Hey Mr. Distributor, check out our new movie...Kelly Wells gets fucked in the ass by a black guy!'
DISTRIBUTOR:'We already have over 150 other titles wherein Ms.Wells gets sodomised by an African-American gentleman. Not interested, I'm afraid.'
STEVE HIRSCH:'Hey Mr.Distributor, check out our new movie...Sunny Leone does boy/girl hardcore for the first time!'
DISTRIBUTOR:'Holy Fucking Shit!!! Sunny Leone? I want it!!!  '
That's just how it is...
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#263110 - 08/04/07 01:17 AM
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AC Cream Wannabe
Registered: 08/16/06
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The government has sat by and done nothing to stop merger, after merger, after merger.
Umm, Brandon, the Gov't is not encouraging mergers in the industry. In fact, they're trying to shut people down.
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Why are the people on this board so unhelpful to men, trying to get into the biz, or starting a company, but will do just about anything to help a girl get in? If anything, it should be the reverse...
Im starting to think that even if you agree with me you'll pretend not to, for arguments sake, jim. Be that as it may, the government will sometimes step in AFTER a merger or two, and a company becomes too large like it did with microsoft...although I think they still havent done enough in that case. My point is, they should stop the problem, before its a problem, then it wont be a problem!
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#263111 - 08/04/07 01:19 AM
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AC Cream Wannabe
Registered: 08/16/06
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Why are the people on this board so unhelpful to men, trying to get into the biz, or starting a company, but will do just about anything to help a girl get in? If anything, it should be the reverse, because all a girl has to do is walk into any directors office, and say she wants to be a pornstar, and its a done deal....a guy trying that...not gonna happen. So they are the ones that really need the help.
Its because its a hard business to get into. You got to make your bones as they say. I use to throw dildos in the washing machine, run down to the store and get lube, make sure the lights were setup and the camera batteries were fully charged. You got to start somewhere.
We have heard enough bullshit from people that say they are going to start this, they are going to work on that, I'm negotiating a deal, I'm waitng on investors, yada yada yada.
For the most part, it never happens. Worse part of it is, they are ungrateful. A simple thanks wouldn't hurt. Even when you try to help them out, they think their way is better or they know more than you.
Thank you for being the only person to actually answer my question. I do realize that sometimes people arent serious, but I think its worth a serious response either way.
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#263112 - 08/04/07 01:22 AM
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AC Cream Wannabe
Registered: 08/16/06
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99.9% of those "joes" want to break in porn as "producer/directors" for fuck pornwhores...
So what? Whats wrong with that? If you're going to start a business and possibly lose money, why not enjoy yourself, and do something you might not ever do otherwise?
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#263113 - 08/04/07 09:06 AM
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Max Hardcore Prison Bitch
Registered: 07/17/07
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99.9% of those "joes" want to break in porn as "producer/directors" for fuck pornwhores...
So what? Whats wrong with that? If you're going to start a business and possibly lose money, why not enjoy yourself, and do something you might not ever do otherwise?
Do not anger El Glorioso. It will be bad news for us all.
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Self-deception facilitates harm to others and to oneself, undermines autonomy, corrupts conscience, violates authenticity, and manifests a vicious lack of courage and self-control that undermines the capacity for compassionate action.
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#263114 - 08/04/07 11:09 AM
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Porn Jesus
Registered: 06/05/05
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99.9% of those "joes" want to break in porn as "producer/directors" for fuck pornwhores...
So what? Whats wrong with that? If you're going to start a business and possibly lose money, why not enjoy yourself, and do something you might not ever do otherwise?
die fanboi, dieeeee!!!!!!!! 
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