Thanks Jeff, I was wondering where the name Nardcore came from and now I know. It is too bad those aren't on cd because I would like to hear their work, as it stands i have never heard any of that stuff. How does the West Coast stuff compare to the east coast hardcore or is the sound fairly similar. I miss going to all those shows too you couldn't beat a Hardcore audiance for crowd energy- I think it had something to do with all those bald heads pogoing at once.