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#262032 - 07/24/07 06:28 PM HD-DVD + Porn = DISASTER!
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#262033 - 07/24/07 07:12 PM Re: HD-DVD + Porn = DISASTER!
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That picture combined with the fact that its still way too expensive, makes me wonder why any studio would be in a hurry to go HD. Porn is cheaper now than it used to be, but if a switch to HD is made, than the price will go up again. Id rather pay less money for standard DVD.
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#262034 - 07/24/07 08:00 PM Re: HD-DVD + Porn = DISASTER!
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hd dvd isnt even expensive, its the possibility of buying a betamax that is scaring people off.

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#262035 - 07/24/07 08:35 PM Re: HD-DVD + Porn = DISASTER!
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with HD porn loses their magic, is like porn conventions

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#262036 - 07/24/07 09:34 PM Re: HD-DVD + Porn = DISASTER!
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hd dvd isnt even expensive, its the possibility of buying a betamax that is scaring people off.




Betamax? Don't you mean BetaCAM? Or, to be more precise, a Sony HDCAM SR? The TAPE alone, lasting scant 33 minutes, costs +90 USD.

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#262037 - 07/24/07 09:37 PM Re: HD-DVD + Porn = DISASTER!
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Betamax? Don't you mean BetaCAM? Or, to be more precise, a Sony HDCAM SR?




Dude, I think he is talking about betamax, the VCR tape before VHS. And yea, HD is a total porn disaster.


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#262038 - 07/25/07 01:28 AM Re: HD-DVD + Porn = DISASTER!
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Ah.

Well, in this case, I think Blu-Ray is the Betamax of the HD War.

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#262039 - 07/25/07 01:43 AM Re: HD-DVD + Porn = DISASTER!
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with HD porn loses their magic, is like porn conventions




I find the biggest turn-on can be seeing as clearly as possible into the lives of these pathetic, desperate, borderline illiterate adult industry "people." From top to bottom, they represent an utter waste of sentient life; all the better to view their tragicomic situation as sex workers in crystal clear HD. The magic can be the reality in this case.

Obviously this approach is not going to cut much ice if you're into the escapism of features. But this probably accounts for some of gonzo's cut-to-the-chase appeal, as well as amateur porn for that matter.
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#262040 - 07/25/07 02:20 AM Re: HD-DVD + Porn = DISASTER!
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This has been bought up so many times before...if it's going to be a disaster for porn, it's going to be a disaster for mainstream too...or haven't you ever seen a picture of Cameron Diaz's complexion when she hasn't got her game face on?

It's just the usual 'Oh my God! The sky is falling! We're all DOOMED!' scaremongering that journalists do. People use tricks on SD cameras to hide imperfections and blemishes, and now they have new HD toys, they'll start coming up with tricks for them too.

The people most at risk from the unflattering, all-seeing gaze of HD are gonzo performers. Bigger budget features eatures normally have a good MUA and a DP/Cinematographer on hand who know their respective asses from third base...gonzos, not so much.

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#262041 - 07/25/07 03:15 AM Re: HD-DVD + Porn = DISASTER!
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This has been bought up so many times before...if it's going to be a disaster for porn, it's going to be a disaster for mainstream too...or haven't you ever seen a picture of Cameron Diaz's complexion when she hasn't got her game face on?




But Hollywood can spend an extra million to digitally erase all blemishes from Tom Cruise's nose or Eva Longoria's ass. But I doubt that average Cheap-ass Joe Porner will do the same.

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#262042 - 07/25/07 07:55 AM Re: HD-DVD + Porn = DISASTER!
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That picture combined with the fact that its still way too expensive, makes me wonder why any studio would be in a hurry to go HD. Porn is cheaper now than it used to be, but if a switch to HD is made, than the price will go up again. Id rather pay less money for standard DVD.




None of the companies are in a rush to go HD DVD (or Blu-Ray for that matter) if you look at their limited output to date. As far as the cost to consumer is concerned, Debbie Does Dallas Again (the only title available on all three formats) costs distributors two bucks more than the standard version but they double the price at retail.

On the other notes, amateur porn with all its blemishes is a huge seller so the clarity of high definition will just as likely expand the market as anything else when the true look of the performers is displayed.
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#262043 - 07/25/07 11:09 AM Re: HD-DVD + Porn = DISASTER!
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This has been bought up so many times before...if it's going to be a disaster for porn, it's going to be a disaster for mainstream too...or haven't you ever seen a picture of Cameron Diaz's complexion when she hasn't got her game face on?




But Hollywood can spend an extra million to digitally erase all blemishes from Tom Cruise's nose or Eva Longoria's ass. But I doubt that average Cheap-ass Joe Porner will do the same.




Like I said...if you have a reasonably competent MUA and DP/Cinematographer, you won't need to digitally erase anything.

The all-too-frequently repeated mantra of 'Don't worry, we'll fix it in post' is usually the famous last words of so many film productions, both large and small. Far better to take the time and effort to get it right while you're still shooting.

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#262044 - 07/25/07 11:23 AM Re: HD-DVD + Porn = DISASTER!
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if you have a reasonably competent MUA and DP/Cinematographer, you won't need to digitally erase anything.




Hm. And porn is full of those skilled professionals, right?

We're talking HD. The cinematography is different, the filters don't work the same way, etc etc etc. Those fellas still haven't had the time to adapt to the new technology.

Why do you think that Hollywood is still using conventional film over the Genesis HD camera?

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#262045 - 07/25/07 11:33 AM Re: HD-DVD + Porn = DISASTER!
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hd dvd isnt even expensive, its the possibility of buying a betamax that is scaring people off.




Betamax? Don't you mean BetaCAM? Or, to be more precise, a Sony HDCAM SR? The TAPE alone, lasting scant 33 minutes, costs +90 USD.





smartt you are a fuuuuucking idiot

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#262046 - 07/25/07 11:51 AM Re: HD-DVD + Porn = DISASTER!
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I still think the industry has two and a half to three years before they need to decide on the future of DVD (if there *even*is*one*) and HD/Bluray or whatever new format war comes up. I have absolutely no faith in Sony anymore (UMD? Playstation 3? Betamax? See a pattern?) so I'll let the dust settle while the entertainment industry lets it play out.

I don't even watch porn on television sets anymore compared to two or three years ago (and I do have a HD tv) as I watch it all on computer where the format really doesn't matter given the resolution.
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#262047 - 07/25/07 11:51 AM Re: HD-DVD + Porn = DISASTER!
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i don't pretend to understand the technology of cinematography, but that picture is pretty fucking scary.
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#262048 - 07/25/07 11:59 AM Re: HD-DVD + Porn = DISASTER!
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Whore needs to use more caulk next time, that's all.
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#262049 - 07/25/07 12:03 PM Re: HD-DVD + Porn = DISASTER!
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Whore needs to use more caulk next time, that's all.


they'll have to get "caulk girl" from lori lust's website...
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#262050 - 07/25/07 01:26 PM Re: HD-DVD + Porn = DISASTER!
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I think the relevance of HD in porn is greatly overstated. For the last year or so plenty of companies have released movies with 'Shot in HD' on the box. And released them on standard DVD.

Gonzo on HD is just a dumb idea and a pointless expense for the studios and fans IMO. Unless customers demand higher quality jerk material, what's the point other than winning a pissing match with the competition?
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#262051 - 07/25/07 02:10 PM Re: HD-DVD + Porn = DISASTER!
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i don't pretend to understand the technology of cinematography, but that picture is pretty fucking scary.




That picture is from some article or powerpoint about the "wonders of photoshop"- it's been around a while. Looks like someone is recycling.

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#262052 - 07/25/07 04:29 PM Re: HD-DVD + Porn = DISASTER!
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#262053 - 07/25/07 05:38 PM Re: HD-DVD + Porn = DISASTER!
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this would look good on HD




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#262054 - 07/26/07 02:54 AM Re: HD-DVD + Porn = DISASTER!
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i don't pretend to understand the technology of cinematography, but that picture is pretty fucking scary.




That picture is from some article or powerpoint about the "wonders of photoshop"- it's been around a while. Looks like someone is recycling.




Yeah, you can tell just by looking at the whites of her eyes that it has been Photoshopped.

Of the major porn features that have been shot, mastered, and released in HD, I've yet to see any SD vs. HD comparison to the effects of 'But in the HD version, you can clearly see that starlet x has cottage cheese thighs, razor bumps and ass zits'.

If Wicked, DP et al can already make a go of it now, then they're only going to get better at it as time goes on and they get more experience.

Hmmm...is this a bad time time to mention that the Japanese are already testing Ultra Hi-Definition?

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#262055 - 07/26/07 05:50 AM Re: HD-DVD + Porn = DISASTER!
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I think the relevance of HD in porn is greatly overstated. For the last year or so plenty of companies have released movies with 'Shot in HD' on the box. And released them on standard DVD.

Gonzo on HD is just a dumb idea and a pointless expense for the studios and fans IMO. Unless customers demand higher quality jerk material, what's the point other than winning a pissing match with the competition?




All of these are good points that I've considered myself. There is an argument that with so few companies releasing titles in TRUE HD-DVD and Blu-Ray (ie: not the home pressed crap that may or may not work on your high def player), the geek factor weighs in heavily. Those who can afford an HD television and all the needed equipment to play the latest mainstream titles in all their glory will probably want at least a few pornos to showcase as well. The keeping up with the Jones' attitude ("I have more resolution than you") is pretty common among geeks and the company bragging rights may move SD titles too.

Right now, Adult DVD Empire has an impressive 8 HD DVD titles for sale and only 2 Blu-Ray flicks (one of them is arguable too). If even a couple of percent of the people owning a Playstation 3 picked up the newest version of Debbie Does Dallas Again on Blu-Ray or a similar portion of people owning one of the X-Box 360 HD-DVD devices bought Curse Eternal; both would be big hits. For comparison purposes, how many thousands of standard definition DVD titles have come out this year already???

One thing to note about the newer formats is that while their resolution is indeed POTENTIALLY substantially higher, every single porn release to date for them is only a marginal improvement; hardly enough to justify doubling the price. Re-releasing a title on the low end of the learning curve for high definition mastering and charging too much is no way to encourage a market to grow. The impact on the format war will be negligible but an early leader in either format could translate into greater all around sales.
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#262056 - 07/26/07 03:53 PM Re: HD-DVD + Porn = DISASTER!
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Hmmm...is this a bad time time to mention that the Japanese are already testing Ultra Hi-Definition?




Alright! Ultra high-def double dog-fucking porn. God love the Japs.

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#262057 - 07/26/07 04:40 PM Re: HD-DVD + Porn = DISASTER!
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shelly lubben as brunette?

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