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Duke, your argument assumes that most men want to see women--whether beautiful or not--humiliated.



All porn by definition is humiliation. That's why you have to pay beautiful women to endure it. The desire to degrade is essential to sexual excitement (a la Dr. Robert Stoller).



I have no doubt that this doctor that you quoted said what he said, but I'm equally sure that there are a number of doctors out there who look at porn as normal human reaction to sexual stimulus.

You seem to be looking at the the situation of porn with an eye to finding the story of human morality or immorality within it. But you always seem to overlook the fact that porn is a business and nor a search for whatever truth your looking for. Pornography is a business where adults engage in sex or pose nude for either photo shoots or movies. I would hope with full disclosure on both sides with an idea of everyone knowing what they're getting into. If not it becomes a commercial legal question, not a open inquiry into the idea of porn itself.

As for you insinuation that all porn is humiliation, its very well known that there is a group of people within the BDSM sub-culture that practice submission as part of their sexual lives. Its not for me and I really could care a less what they do on their own time, for the simple reason is that they are not trying to enforce their personal views of their lifestyle on me. Some of them even do it professionally and are paid for their time - as a business. That being said porn is about providing a service, a service people are willing to pay for and there are companies out there who provide that service and they in turn hire people to be the talent for that service.

If there are men and women in porn who would rather do something else, they can join the club with the rest of us. but porn from what I've seen isn't about looking for the definition of the human condition, its a commercial enterprise that caters to a demand and the talent and the producers and distributors are the suppliers - end of story.

I should think that you would have realized that by now.