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#260291 - 07/19/07 11:07 PM
Re: Rog Repsondes to the Skeeter Post
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Rob Black's Crack Pipe
Registered: 08/07/03
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Oh man.....does ANYONE care about this shit?
I have a response to his latest thing.....
Consider the source. He lied about me fucking Aurora Snow, about Bridgette throwing a drink in my face (She knocked a cup with two ice cubes out of my hand) and spitting in my face. (She never spit, she has more class than that.)
And tonight.....he claims I said that Otto "stole" from Jules Jordan.....Someone please read the review (http://www.rogreviews.com/reviews/read_review.asp?sku=3706) and show me where the word steal appears....anyone.
That's just one about 30 I could pull up, but I'll go back to this....
Consider the source.
Now Monstar....what's the beef between you and Fayner?
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#260292 - 07/20/07 08:11 AM
Re: Rog Responds to the Skeeter Posts on AFYI
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AC Cream Wannabe
Registered: 03/11/07
Posts: 451
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Oh man.....does ANYONE care about this shit?
Until you started responding to him, I didn't care at all but now I'm curious what set him off. Generally, when a guy gets all worked up over something, it's for a reason (good or bad). You lend him credibility by responding, especially when you say something generic like "consider the source", and he makes some points worth discussing (even ones I disagree with). The latest from Gene's website:
Skeeter: Roger T. Pipe Owes Otto Bauer an Apology; T. Pipe a "hang-around" says Skeeter
Porn Valley- Skeeter Kerkove's got a bug up his ass about porn critic Roger T. Pipe that a dozen cans of Raid can't extinguish.
T. Pipe today commented on some of the things Skeeter had to say regarding an incident at an XRCO awards show several years ago where Bridgette Kerkove allegedly tossed a drink in T. Pipe's face and supposedly spit on him. Skeeter claims this is the way it went down. T. Pipe claims it wasn't as bad as all that, and that Bridgette didn't spit in his face. T. Pipe says Bridgette later called and apologized.
"God bless her if she did," says Skeeter who goes on to allege that both Aurora Snow and Layla Jade did POV scenes with T. Pipe and that he was a "trick.". T. Pipe says this never happened, as well, but Skeeter claims he heard it from both women and that Aurora Snow told him about the T. Pipe incident with Jay Ashley present.
"Aurora told me that- that's it," says Skeeter. "And I know exactly what Layla Jade told me when we picked her up at her hotel off of the 405 Freeway and Roscoe. I remember that well."
"I do appreciate him saying something nice about Bridgette because he never once had before," Skeeter continues. "But the truth of the matter is, that man never once said anything nice about her. And Bridgette knocked that drink out of his fucking hand and wanted me to beat his ass down for all the mean things he had ever said about her, Jill Kelly and Jenna Jameson and all types of other girls.
"He has said mean things about Bridgette that, indeed, make her cry. When Bridgette saw Roger T. Pipe that was it. Plus she was over emotional and she was pregnant."
"Reviewers do not need to tear apart people by the way they look," Skeeter believes. "They do not need to have a personal involvement in a review. They need to review a movie for what it is. If you love a Jules Jordan movie, if you love an Eric Everhard movie, and you review a Paul Thomas Vivid feature and go on and on how you don't like it because you like this, it's not a fair review.
"That's assuming you're so famous that everyone wants to know what your personal tastes are. When I read a review that Roger T. Pipe writes and he's attacking someone and not kissing butt- and you can read some of the reviews that are so over the top glowing and kissing ass- you know something has gone amiss. Some of the best reviews I've received in my life, there was no kissing ass. Some people didn't even like me who gave me Editors Choices. But when Roger T. Pipe is putting down throat gagging which he calls "qwagging" and he talks about a real wood killer, me as a person reading the review, doesn't want to envision that Roger T. Pipe is jacking off, then got a soft penis.
"I don't want to envision Roger T. Pipe jacking off," says Skeeter. "If he's gay and is talking about a gay movie and jacking off to a gay movie, that makes sense. In that situation everyone wants mens' penises to be hard. When Roger T. Pipe is reviewing a movie where a girl is getting throat fucked, I don't need to hear that his dick got hard or that it was a wood killer. Because now I have envisioned this man jacking off in a corner. And his interjection has turned this thing into a gay-thing. It's hard on me, emotionally, to picture Roger T. Pipe jacking off. It's not a pretty thought."
"When he's throwing in his two cents' worth that he doesn't like this or doesn't like that, does he say that because he believes he's so important in porn that we're all hanging on what does Roger T. Pipe personally like and that whatever he personally likes is what our personal taste is?
"I'm not into lovey-dovey lesbian movies where they're French kissing and using fingers," Skeeter continues. "But I can still give it a good review if it's a good movie. I don't say that was a real wook killer when that girl didn't put a baseball bat in her ass. We don't care about me jacking off. Instead, was it shot well, did you see the angles, did you feel that it was pretty? Not what I think was good. So when Roger T. Pipe says well I like this and qwagging is a wood killer, he's sending out a statement that he's so powerful that he is so rich, that we all hang on the words of how porn should be done.
"Roger T. Pipe is not fond of Max Hardcore, but Max Hardcore is a pioneer and almost everyone in porn has copied his moves, sexually. Max Hardcore created a thing called stove-piping. Stove-piping was the word before gape. In Max's mind the girl gaping looked like the inside dark cylinder of a stove pipe. So does that mean that every time there's a gape in a movie, Roger T. Pipe should say that was stolen straight from a Max Hardcore handbook?
"But Roger T. Pipe is not going to be a bully any more," Skeeter contends. "If he's brave enough to call people 'thieves' and I'm using the word stealing, he's calling Otto Bauer stealing. On his review of Triple Threat, Roger T. Pipe said 'stolen' which means to steal - straight from a Jules Jordan handbook and he talks about the girls going on a bar stool. I was the cameraman that day and so was Jim Powers, and there was no stealing from Jules Jordan. Otto Bauer does not watch Jules Jordan movies, so once again Roger T. Pipe is wrong. Otto doesn't watch anybody's movies. He did not steal from Jules Jordan, Jim Powers or people who used bar stools in the Seventies in porno movies.
"So he's got to get right," Skeeter goes on to say. "Roger T. Pipe must get off his fucking ass and quit calling people like Otto Bauer a thief. First off I didn't know there was a Jules Jordan handbook because everything I've seen in his movies I have seen in a Jim Powers movie or a John Stagliano movie."
While Skeeter acknowledges that Jordan may be one of the tops in the past five years, the Bang Bros. have him beat.
"They've made so many tens of millions of dollars, it's now gotten to the point of impossibility," says Skeeter. "It's so ludicrous how much money those two youngsters have made on the Internet. It's unbelievable. It's worse than staggering. They are controlling the Internet. They would have their feelings hurt if they only cleared 20 million dollars in one year. They would be like on there way out.
"Second would be the boys up north- Hogtied.com- with all the numerous mansions they own," adds Skeeter. "They make so much money where selling a DVD is like begging for money. I don't even want to go there with that ridiculoous drama because the Internet's the world. But I'm giving Jules Jordan credit for one thing. I'm putting him number three in the past five years as the most finacially successful independent producer/director.
"So what Roger T. Pipe is getting back is a little bit of magic right now," states Skeeter. "All those years he slammed girls and how he called Otto a jabber jaw, somebody who talks too much. I remember showing Otto some of the things Roger T. Pipe wrote about him and Otto's, like, fuck this guy, he's not the one paid to do all the pussy. All this guy does is write articles like everybody thinks he's the motherfuckin' shit and they all hang on to see what he thinks. So that motherfucker is putting down double anal- what does he think? We're all retards? Goddamn, it made good money you fuckin' retard. We don't care if you don't like it. We don't make these movies for you. You fuckin' get a life. Get real. This isn't your world, you get out of pornography. You're not a part of it. You're a fuckin' hang around."
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"I'm rich. I'm a strong, trained fighter. I own a gun. And I am completely...fucking ... psychotic." Kurt Lockwood ranting yet again
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#260293 - 07/20/07 08:16 AM
Re: Rog Repsondes to the Skeeter Post
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Porn Jesus
Registered: 03/28/04
Posts: 4450
Loc: The Planet Houston
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Oh man.....does ANYONE care about this shit?
maybe, maybe not, but I wanted to post your side so you at least would get a fair shake
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Now Monstar....what's the beef between you and Fayner?
in a nutshell, he's bent out of shape because in 2005 i noted that he doesn't post often on his site. To which he later admits.
He then went on about how I have, been and continue to, get paid to do PR. My Retort: No shit.
Rambles on and on about how Press Releases only appear on my site. I correct him by noting that they appear have appeared on all different sites, even his own.
Says I shill for my friends, like Stormy & Courtney. To which I reply 'true' ...just like he's been shilling for Kirsten Price and Cassidy. Nothing wrong in taking care of your friends, is there?
and the best part? He says, and I quote: "It's also known that Monstar needed these chicks he swindled to get himself into porno parties."
To which I called him out on his lies:
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Who are these mythical chicks? Names.
I'm calling you out. Sources.
As a matter of fact, here is pretty much everyone I've worked with. Now pick a Fucking name, you liar.
Agency X
Anabolic
Brooke Haven
Carly Parker
Courtney Cummz
Dave Naz
Eva Angelina
Gianna Lynn
Katja Kassin
Kimberly Kane
L.A. Direct Models
Lexi Lamour
Lisa Ann
Melissa Lauren
Mia Rose
Nikki Benz
Octavio
Shy Love
Stormy Daniels
Taryn Thomas
But like you said and the vibe from everyone here.
"Consider the source."
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#260294 - 07/20/07 08:28 AM
Re: Rog Responds to the Skeeter Posts on AFYI
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Porn Jesus
Registered: 03/28/04
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Oh man.....does ANYONE care about this shit?
Until you started responding to him, I didn't care at all but now I'm curious what set him off. Generally, when a guy gets all worked up over something, it's for a reason (good or bad). You lend him credibility by responding, especially when you say something generic like "consider the source", and he makes some points worth discussing (even ones I disagree with).
You think so? IN my case, I held back from responding but then I thought I might as well fire back, not to lend justification, but to point out that this guy makes no fucking sense, he's straight up lying (as oppose to giving opinion) and every thing he cited me for was easily, and inarguably squashed.
And, in my case again, I do say 'consider the source.'
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#260296 - 07/20/07 09:36 AM
Re: Rog Responds to the Skeeter Posts on AFYI
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AC Cream Wannabe
Registered: 03/11/07
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You think so? IN my case, I held back from responding but then I thought I might as well fire back, not to lend justification, but to point out that this guy makes no fucking sense, he's straight up lying (as oppose to giving opinion) and every thing he cited me for was easily, and inarguably squashed.
And, in my case again, I do say 'consider the source.'
In general, it is a truism that people only respond if there is a credible attack made or a specific purpose in doing so. While the porn industry is generally considered to be on a junior high school level of development, I'm pretty sure the majority of people that read the gossip columns know how reliable he is compared to you.
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"I'm rich. I'm a strong, trained fighter. I own a gun. And I am completely...fucking ... psychotic." Kurt Lockwood ranting yet again
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#260297 - 07/20/07 09:48 AM
Re: Rog Responds to the Skeeter Posts on AFYI
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Rob Black's Crack Pipe
Registered: 08/07/03
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Loc: SoCal
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Don,
My response is "consider the source." I don't think I lend him any credibility by reminding everyone to consider the source. Why add fuel to the fire and waste a lot of time an energy on something that just isn't all that important.
As for his "interesting points" in this recent post, there are some potential discussion issues there, but how does one have these discussions with someone who is bent on personal insults, lies and some feud that is years old. (And was "buried" according to Skeeter himself long ago.)
What set him off? I believe it was a MySpace photo this time. I have been digging up all of the really old "Rog Rule" rules T-Shirt and sign pictures and adding them to the MySpace Gallery. I regularly rotate the profile picture and happened to have a old one of the Kerkoves posing with the "Rog Rules" sign. They posed and sent it to me, but from what I hear that made him really angry. I was trying to keep things light.
Now, these interesting points are out there if anyone wants to have an actual conversation or even a debate about subject vs objective critiques and how they apply to porn.I actually enjoy these topics and opened a thread on my site dedicated to them.
Sorry, I am laughing too hard to continue. Anyone who thinks that I offer my likes/dislikes because I'm "so important" is so comically off course that they are lost forever. Try reading any review of anything without a baseline. It's brutal and pointless.
Rog
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#260298 - 07/20/07 09:53 AM
Re: Rog Responds to the Skeeter Posts on AFYI
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Rob Black's Crack Pipe
Registered: 08/07/03
Posts: 116
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Don,
Keep in mind, my first response was to clear up two huge lies Skeeter told.
1. That Bridgette did NOT spit at me. That's a horrible to accuse someone of and she absolutely did not.
2. That Aurora Snow did NOT have sex with me. That's a horrible thing to accuse someone of and he absolutely did not.
The rest of the stuff is either made up or can be looked up. I didn't spend a lot of time pointing this out. (You can look up the reviews in question and find that he's wrong about things he thinks I said over and over.)
I think that Monstar replied to Scott in kind. Just to point out the big issue and let people decide on the rest.
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#260299 - 07/20/07 10:25 AM
Re: Rog Responds to the Skeeter Posts on AFYI
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Whoremaster
Registered: 10/21/05
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And, in my case again, I do say 'consider the source.'
Hey, knock it off. My dealer says Faylure's great.
The source is methamphetamine...Fayner is just the vessel through which the meth voices speak. 
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#260300 - 07/20/07 11:26 AM
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Sorry, Don, but I have to agree with Monstar and Rog on this one. "Consider the source," is a legitimate reposnse in the world of Porn, and there's probably no better examples than Fayner and Skeeter.
Both Monstar and Rog could have said "Consider the source" and ended it right there. I believe most of the stories about Sierra Sinn, but I don't believe a word of the Blockbuster story simply because it came from Skeeter. (Come On, Arland, NOBODY believes you've ener been moved to tears in your life, let alone over this dubious business.) As for Fayner, Two things must be kept in mind: One, the liklyhood he was having a Drug flashback (TWO YEARS went by before he responded to Monstar's post,) and TWO, Faynrer will say or do ANYTHING to get himself back between TKKKR's legs, despite the fact that his Dick hasn't worked simce long before their marriage. (What did you do to piss off the racist cunt, Alex?)
When it comes to Skeeter and Fayner, I'd sooner believe "Bagdad Bob."
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#260301 - 07/20/07 11:52 AM
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And, in my case again, I do say 'consider the source.'
Hey, knock it off. My dealer says Faylure's great.
The source is methamphetamine...Fayner is just the vessel through which the meth voices speak.
So he's a channeler? Explains quite a bit.
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#260302 - 07/20/07 01:37 PM
Re: Rog Repsondes to the Skeeter Post
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Ed Hardy Wearing Loser
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And tonight.....he claims I said that Otto "stole" from Jules Jordan.....Someone please read the review (http://www.rogreviews.com/reviews/read_review.asp?sku=3706) and show me where the word steal appears....anyone.
'Taking a page out of the Jules Jordan playbook...'
It sounds like Otto Bauer was shooting with a Jules Jordan handbook by his side.
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#260303 - 07/20/07 02:35 PM
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#260304 - 07/20/07 02:58 PM
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When it comes to  Skeeter and Fayner, I'd sooner believe "Bagdad Bob."
jim, i do believe i'm going to have to kick your ass. 
Sorry GiGi, but I calls 'em as I sees 'em. 
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#260305 - 07/20/07 03:11 PM
Re: Rog Responds to the Skeeter Posts on AFYI
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AC Cream Wannabe
Registered: 03/11/07
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Sorry, Don, but I have to agree with Monstar and Rog on this one. "Consider the source," is a legitimate reposnse in the world of Porn, and there's probably no better examples than Fayner and Skeeter.
Both Monstar and Rog could have said "Consider the source" and ended it right there...
Had he simply said "consider the source" a single time, be it on his website, Gene's, or here, I would probably be more likely to agree. That there have been multiple responses on each website changes that idea a bit. I'm not trying to bust his balls over it, just pointing out that it makes no sense to respond in such a case, especially with self depreciating comments about how terrible it would have been for the two performers in question to work with him (consider some of their past partners for a micro-second to figure that one out).
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Don,
Keep in mind, my first response was to clear up two huge lies Skeeter told.
1. That Bridgette did NOT spit at me. That's a horrible to accuse someone of and she absolutely did not.
2. That Aurora Snow did NOT have sex with me. That's a horrible thing to accuse someone of and he absolutely did not.
Rog, remember that much of what he says is from second hand sources, not personal observations. Is it possible that Aurora joked with him about you doing a POV scene and he believed it (you have shot camera for some movies in the past)? Isn't it possible that Bridgette told him she spit on you during your encounter (you admit she was drunk and pregnant; both conditions known for causing interesting emotional responses and memory lapses)? I'm pretty sure I've read at least a couple of your reviews that gave the appearance of crediting Jules with certain acts that have been around a long time so while it may be a huge leap to use terms like "steal", "thieves", or similar words, he certainly perceives such comments in a way that can be rationalized to a degree (apologies if I've misread some of your past reviews to think this-I'll let Skeeter read all the reviews in question if he feels he has something of substance to share in this regard).
In any case, by responding repeatedly to him only raised doubts that people wouldn't have had if you ignored him completely. 
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"I'm rich. I'm a strong, trained fighter. I own a gun. And I am completely...fucking ... psychotic." Kurt Lockwood ranting yet again
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#260306 - 07/20/07 04:32 PM
Re: Rog Responds to the Skeeter Posts on AFYI
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Rob Black's Crack Pipe
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Don, I'm responding to you. You brought the stuff over here from Gene's site. Now you're asking questions about it. Am I supposed to refuse to answer your questions? Come on brother. Is it possible Aurora joked about a scene? Who knows? Do you honestly think that Skeeter is joking? Context my friend. I responded originally to clear up two of the biggest lies in the post, NOT about me, but about other people. Bridgette didn't spit, Aurora hasn't fucked me. (and Seymore never paid for any trips to Vegas...huh?) You're asking follow up questions. Should I take your advice and ignore them? Or make conversation with someone I don't have a beef with? Your tone and your questions add more credibility than any response by me could. I'll respond to you if you want, but don't imply that I shouldn't reply in this forum and then ask me questions at the same time. That just isn't very nice. And aren't we all just trying to make the world a nicer place? If you want to break my balls, email me.  Rog
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#260308 - 07/20/07 07:19 PM
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Porn Fucking Master
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#260309 - 07/20/07 07:25 PM
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Rob Black's Crack Pipe
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...most of the questions I currently have about the matter would be for Skeeter that only he could truly answer at this point. 
skeeter needs to post here. hey, a girl can dream, right? 
Would that make you a fangirl? or is it fangrrl? or fangurl?
What is the female version of fanboi?
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#260310 - 07/21/07 07:03 AM
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Porn Jesus
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I don't think Skeeter can read or write, much less operate a computer.
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#260311 - 07/21/07 07:10 AM
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#260313 - 07/21/07 10:16 AM
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Rob Black's Crack Pipe
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Nor should you make any bones about liking Skeeter. Despite the utter hatred he feels for me and the numerous lies he keeps telling about me, I have nothing against him. It's a one-sided feud. Then again, even if I had something against someone titty pictures would forgive all ill will. Flash on & keep showing your love. 
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#260314 - 07/22/07 01:56 AM
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Porn Jesus
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#260318 - 09/27/07 01:25 PM
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I don't think Skeeter can read or write, much less operate a computer.
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Internet feuds are dumb. 
Skeeter Kerkove has initiated more "e-beef" than any other porn "personality" I know. As an avid porn fan/consumer and occasional critic, it's pretty sad and telling that his frequent internet ramblings directed towards a new target every other week or so are the only way I know he still shoots movies or even exists.
There is nothing wrong with banging Aurora Snow 
(pre-2003, that is). 
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