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#254437 - 06/26/07 06:25 PM
Re: Chris Benoit kills Wife, Son, Self
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(While I type this MSNBC is doing a whole discussion on Scarborough on this which is putting much of this in perspective for me...)
It couldn't be a coincidence, but this murder happens the night of a PPV in which Benoit was to compete for the ECW championship and days after Vince McMahon was "murdered" as part of a crappy story line?
Comparing Vince McMahon to handgun use or Jeff is really a bad use of a comparison. He is the boss of a company which is pretty much the only player in the business. These are his employees who he deals with on a personal basis daily (let alone some careers spanning decades), not random porn whores who Jeff hires for one day out of the year. Vince has said himself he creates these people, his "WWE Super Stars" (not to mention in many cases he even legally owns their names and signature moves). So yeah, when your creations...er...workers are overdosing and dropping dead, yeah, that should be a concern your business has serious addiction and mental health issues with its workers. I felt this way well before Eddie died too.
McMahon has prided his company on "real life" story lines; look how many relationships between wrestlers started on TV then became a part of their real private lives. Or even the inverse: exposing their private lives in order to make a spicier storyline or feud. Don't tell me that doesn't have some remarkable effect on mental health.
Vince McMahon has lived in a fantasy world for years. He barely, BARELY skated by the Federal indictment and steroid allegations in the early 90s. Rather then even now admitting that things were just different in the 80s and everyone did steroids (its really no secret this day in age) he's continued to deny it. Yes, that has had a profound effect for his organization...how do you offer people help for their *real* problems (or even approach them about it) when you deny it even exists and conveniently turn your head when your workers are shooting up even now? We're only now seeing the long-term effects of years of sterioid use...no one knows what type of complications there are 20 years after the fact.
Vince has blackballed so many people in the business for opening their mouths about its problems and how to solve them when he's done nothing (Roddy Piper as mentioned after his Bob Costas interview, Jesse Ventura for suggesting a wrestler's union, etc, etc). He's extended the kay-fabe mentality to his organization where you don't open your mouth about its secrets and has valued the secrecy of its business as much as his profit line. You don't think this mentality had an effect on people not opening their mouths about the warning signs that were surely there? These are issues that a "Don't Try This at Home" commercial aren't going to solve.
Its sad because pro-wrestling will never be the same after this. Its too bad anyone who attempted to change or help the business was stamped out by Vince; he's going to be wishing the stories of dead wrestlers included the headline "OD" rather than "Family Murderer." Any change now will not be voluntary, but will now be forced which is the truly sad part.
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