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#254397 - 06/25/07 05:31 PM
Chris Benoit and Family Found Dead
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Chronic Masturbator
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Checking AdultFYI and found this: Quote:
Atlanta- [The Daily Advertiser]- World Wrestling Entertainment professional wrestler Chris Benoit and his family were found dead Monday at their residence.
The wrestler was found with his wife, Nancy, [aka Woman] and his son, Daniel. Police have not released details, but have reported the residence is currently under investigation.
WWE will continue with their live broadcast of their weekly show, RAW, tonight at 8 p.m. on USA. WWE officials said a tribute to Benoit is planned for the show.
RAW will be making a stop in the Cajundome on July 9.
Benoit, a Canadian-born wrestler, had stints in WWE, as well as World Championship Wrestling and Extreme Championship Wrestling. He was 40 years old.
From wrestlingnews.com: I find myself awfully numb typing this. With sadness, we have to report the unfortunate news that Chris Benot (40), wife Nancy (43), and son Daniel (7) were found dead in their Atlanta home. Chris' other two children were in and are still in Canada at the time of their passing.
No further details are available at this time. The only news coming from Georgia Police, is that the 'family was not shot to death'. I know that statement sounds cold. But it does rule out one speculation that is running rampant surrounding their deaths. Once an update is available, we will post it here on the website and hotline.
Tonight WWE will air a three hour tribute to the life of Chris Benoit. Raw, Smackdown, and ECW stars as well as several legends will be onhand.I am hopeful that Vince McMahon will be standing on the runway paying tribute as well and his storyline is dropped. And if it is dropped, there wont be one person at all in and out of wrestling that would have a problem with it.
We have already updated the hotline (718-303-4444) if anyone wants to call. Myself, Joey, and Kevin spent the entire 30 minutes (main greeting and option 1) on this story and celebrating the life of Chris Benoit.
We invite everyone to listen to our Minority Report Webcast tonight at 11:15PM EST as we tribute Chris Benoit as well. Call in and express your memories of Chris, as well as Nancy aka Woman.
Everyone here at the site and webcast send along our deepest condolences to the family, friends, and fans of Chris Benoit, and Nancy.
Another one of the greats bites the dust.
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#254399 - 06/25/07 06:40 PM
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Porn Jesus
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That's really said and unexpected. Benoit never had any drama that would lead up to this.
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#254400 - 06/25/07 07:11 PM
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Porn Jesus
Registered: 03/22/07
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I hate to say it but this smells really bad. No guns were involved and if you were not really close to Benoit and wanted to kill him and his family you had better take a gun with you. Having to bow out of a pay-per-view for "personal reasons" and "a family emergency"? This sounds to me like a Phil Hartman type event.
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#254401 - 06/25/07 08:32 PM
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#254402 - 06/25/07 08:32 PM
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Max Hardcore Prison Bitch
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Last thing I read said cops were looking at a homicide, suicide, and not looking for suspects outside of the house.
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#254405 - 06/26/07 01:48 AM
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Max Hardcore Prison Bitch
Registered: 02/15/07
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this sucks all the greats are dropping dead thats 4 wrestlers to die sofar this year Bam Bam Bigalow Mike Awesome Sensational Sherri Martel and now benoit
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#254408 - 06/26/07 07:16 AM
Re: Chris Benoit kills Wife, Son, Self
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Porn Fucking Master
Registered: 10/30/06
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He killed his wife. + He killed his son. + He killed himself. = He's a piece of shit, and I'd take pleasure in pissing on his grave.
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#254409 - 06/26/07 08:31 AM
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Porn Jesus
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I've heard two conflicting stories about this . One is the aforementioned Benoit killing his wife and kid Saturday and then killing himself Monday. The other is that Nancy killed the kid Saturday(I've heard suffacation with a garbage bag and I've also heard poisoned with drain cleaner) and called Benoit home. When Benoit found out what she had done he went nuts and strangled her with the cord from an alarm clock. He then hung himself in his weight room. Don't know what to believe but the latter makes more sense. I always thought Benoit had a pretty solid head on his shoulders but that his wife was wound a little tight. Supposed to be some kind of press conference this afternoon to release more details.
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#254411 - 06/26/07 08:52 AM
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Porn Jesus
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That's messy and entirely fucked up, whichever way it went down.
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#254412 - 06/26/07 09:32 AM
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Registered: 05/16/07
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When Eddie Guerrero died a few years back a tear came to my eye which was odd since I couldn't recall crying in years. Contrast that with the bile that filled my mouth hearing the Benoit news. If the ENTIRE world of porn had half the problems just WWF/WWE has in recent years it would have been shut down by the feds in a heartbeat...yet Vince McMahon skates by? I always felt Benoit was a creepy, lifeless performer and something was never right about him. Sure his athletic skill and technique was among the best but there's no way you spend that much time in a wrestling ring, especially this day in age, and never develop any significant in-ring mic skills or personality. (contrasting say to Kurt Angle started the same way yet quickly developed incredible mic and talking skills you could just tell were in an inner reflection of his personality). I always felt Benoit had a weird vibe to him and something under the surface. Seriously, a 7 year old kid? Really, beating him to death? Sad to say I was right about him. For fuck's sake Vince McMahon... Shit...I totally forgot Mike Awesome died this year...small world as my uncle was his attorney when he jumped between ECW and WCW. Can we rename this Smiley the "benoit?" ------>
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#254413 - 06/26/07 10:19 AM
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What does what happened here have to do with Vince? Vince may be a dick but it wasn't he or the wwf that did this.
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#254414 - 06/26/07 10:29 AM
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Porn Jesus
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What does what happened here have to do with Vince? Vince may be a dick but it wasn't he or the wwf that did this.
it is the whole culture and vibe of the organization that starts and ends with Vince. Sure, you can admire what he has built from a business standpoint, and the fact that he is a driven individual, but that does not excuse you from having other requisite human qualities or being morally responsible. There have been so many examples and incidents shwoing that the performers who DRIVE his business and upon whom he relies, are fucked up on Steroids and prescription drugs due to the pounding their bodies take. He rewards them with an illusory brand of fame and wealth, which in reality does not come close to adequately compensating them for the risks they take. Furthermore, Vince is a ruthless, egotistical bastard who will cut loose of anyone once it becomes apparent they no longer serve his needs or have become a liability.
Just look at the storylines and message this guy and his organization sends out to the audience (which includes a Large contingent of impressionable young boys AND, as of late thanks to the Divas, girls...) It really is fucked up...
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#254416 - 06/26/07 11:04 AM
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Porn Jesus
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So I can blame the police for that policeman in the news recently, or the nfl for a football players infractions. Purveyors of things that you may not agree with are not to blame for the ills of the world. Some people are sick in the head period- these people may be Priests, Doctors, businessmen, lawyers or work for the WWE.
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#254417 - 06/26/07 11:44 AM
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"A law enforcement official close to the investigation says pro wrestler Chris Benoit strangled his wife and smothered his son before hanging himself in his weight room." SOURCEIt'll be interesting to see what the final ruling will be.
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#254418 - 06/26/07 01:08 PM
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So I can blame the police for that policeman in the news recently, or the nfl for a football players infractions. Purveyors of things that you may not agree with are not to blame for the ills of the world. Some people are sick in the head period- these people may be Priests, Doctors, businessmen, lawyers or work for the WWE.
here's the thing. guys dying young of unnatural causes has become the norm for professional wrestling, and that is cause for major alarm. but there is no alarm, i suppose because "it's just wrestling", and people believe that every single thing about it is not to be taken seriously. if this was the case in any other high profile industry, people would have sat up and taken notice long ago. it's not just one guy that's fucked up, or even two or three. it's gotten to the point (past the point, in fact) that wwe doesn't even acknowledge the deaths of people who used to work for them on tv unless they have to, because it's so fucking many they don't want to show another one and remind people that their business leads to so many tragic endings. that's real.
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#254421 - 06/26/07 01:44 PM
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Porn Jesus
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I agree Vince seems like a dick, didn't much like Benoit either but you blame the entertainment and not the person and I argue. Jeff and others make sleazy porn with no moral value- lots of suicide and deaths amongst other things happen in the industry by your value judgment shouldn't Jeff and others be to blame or responsible for those. People flip their lids- sure some industries attract more than a market share of loopy people but in the end it is still a personal responsibility.
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#254423 - 06/26/07 02:14 PM
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Human Garbage
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I read this in the paper and still have a weird feeling in my stomach. Like him or not, like wrestling or not, Benoit was one of the greatest technical wrestlers of his generation. My condolensces to his family.
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#254426 - 06/26/07 02:42 PM
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Porn Jesus
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Didn't know this guy. Haven't watched wrestling since the good ol' days of Mr Perfect and the Million Dollar Man who'd stick $100 bill in your mouth if you lost. Wasn't there another guy that died a while back too? I think Texas Tornado and Brett Heart's bro (name escapes me). And umm, what happened to Ultimate Warrior?
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#254427 - 06/26/07 02:42 PM
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Porn Jesus
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i had no idea about any of this stuff but from what you guys say it sounds like wrestling's so egregious in comparison to MLB/cycling/sprinting/whatever the shit's going to hit the fan for the wwf really soon.
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#254429 - 06/26/07 02:53 PM
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i had no idea about any of this stuff but from what you guys say it sounds like wrestling's so egregious in comparison to MLB/cycling/sprinting/whatever the shit's going to hit the fan for the wwf really soon.
The shit originally hit the fan about 15 years ago.
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On November 18, 1993, more than two years after former ringside physician Dr. George Zahorian was convicted of selling steroids, WWF owner Vince McMahon was indicted for possession and conspiracy to distribute anabolic steroids. The trial featured testimony from star witness Hulk Hogan on July 5, 1994, in Uniondale, N.Y. The 17-day trial ended when, after 16 hours of jury deliberation, McMahon was acquitted of all charges.
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#254430 - 06/26/07 03:55 PM
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The shit originally hit the fan about 15 years ago.
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On November 18, 1993, more than two years after former ringside physician Dr. George Zahorian was convicted of selling steroids, WWF owner Vince McMahon was indicted for possession and conspiracy to distribute anabolic steroids. The trial featured testimony from star witness Hulk Hogan on July 5, 1994, in Uniondale, N.Y. The 17-day trial ended when, after 16 hours of jury deliberation, McMahon was acquitted of all charges.
Actually, that's an example of the fan ducking out of the way of the shit at the last second.
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#254431 - 06/26/07 04:35 PM
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The shits always hitting the fan with young "athletes" dying far before their time, be it from steroids, drugs, or combinations of both. Unfortunately the shit never sticks to the fan for very long because wrestlers are considered to be the porn whores of the sports entertainment industry. It has always been assumed that they are aware of the risks they will take in order to succeed in the business.
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#254435 - 06/26/07 06:18 PM
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Wrestling Facts since 1997:
65 Deaths of wrestlers. 25 Heart attacks [5 of whom tested positive for steroids]. 12 Non-steroid drug use.
Wrestler death rate 7 times higher than US general population. Wrestlers 12 times more likely to die from heart disease.
[from "Scarborough County" 9/26/2006 & USA Today March 2004]
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#254437 - 06/26/07 06:25 PM
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(While I type this MSNBC is doing a whole discussion on Scarborough on this which is putting much of this in perspective for me...)
It couldn't be a coincidence, but this murder happens the night of a PPV in which Benoit was to compete for the ECW championship and days after Vince McMahon was "murdered" as part of a crappy story line?
Comparing Vince McMahon to handgun use or Jeff is really a bad use of a comparison. He is the boss of a company which is pretty much the only player in the business. These are his employees who he deals with on a personal basis daily (let alone some careers spanning decades), not random porn whores who Jeff hires for one day out of the year. Vince has said himself he creates these people, his "WWE Super Stars" (not to mention in many cases he even legally owns their names and signature moves). So yeah, when your creations...er...workers are overdosing and dropping dead, yeah, that should be a concern your business has serious addiction and mental health issues with its workers. I felt this way well before Eddie died too.
McMahon has prided his company on "real life" story lines; look how many relationships between wrestlers started on TV then became a part of their real private lives. Or even the inverse: exposing their private lives in order to make a spicier storyline or feud. Don't tell me that doesn't have some remarkable effect on mental health.
Vince McMahon has lived in a fantasy world for years. He barely, BARELY skated by the Federal indictment and steroid allegations in the early 90s. Rather then even now admitting that things were just different in the 80s and everyone did steroids (its really no secret this day in age) he's continued to deny it. Yes, that has had a profound effect for his organization...how do you offer people help for their *real* problems (or even approach them about it) when you deny it even exists and conveniently turn your head when your workers are shooting up even now? We're only now seeing the long-term effects of years of sterioid use...no one knows what type of complications there are 20 years after the fact.
Vince has blackballed so many people in the business for opening their mouths about its problems and how to solve them when he's done nothing (Roddy Piper as mentioned after his Bob Costas interview, Jesse Ventura for suggesting a wrestler's union, etc, etc). He's extended the kay-fabe mentality to his organization where you don't open your mouth about its secrets and has valued the secrecy of its business as much as his profit line. You don't think this mentality had an effect on people not opening their mouths about the warning signs that were surely there? These are issues that a "Don't Try This at Home" commercial aren't going to solve.
Its sad because pro-wrestling will never be the same after this. Its too bad anyone who attempted to change or help the business was stamped out by Vince; he's going to be wishing the stories of dead wrestlers included the headline "OD" rather than "Family Murderer." Any change now will not be voluntary, but will now be forced which is the truly sad part.
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#254439 - 06/26/07 06:36 PM
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i had no idea about any of this stuff but from what you guys say it sounds like wrestling's so egregious in comparison to MLB/cycling/sprinting/whatever the shit's going to hit the fan for the wwf really soon.
Probably not. If this was an election year, Congress would be all over this shit, with committies and subpoenas and endless hours of blah, blah, blah, I plead the fifth, blah, blah, blah. But since it's not, nothing's going to happen beyond the indignation of certain sports writers.
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It is sad. I never understood the intrest in "pro" wrestling. Isn't it kind of gay to watch half naked guys in speedos.
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#254440 - 06/26/07 07:29 PM
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I agree Vince seems like a dick, didn't much like Benoit either but you blame the entertainment and not the person and I argue. Jeff and others make sleazy porn with no moral value- lots of suicide and deaths amongst other things happen in the industry by your value judgment shouldn't Jeff and others be to blame or responsible for those. People flip their lids- sure some industries attract more than a market share of loopy people but in the end it is still a personal responsibility.
here, again, is the thing. you can say that vince didn't put the steroids in his body, he didn't force anyone to do anything, but if you work in wrestling you know how it works. someone brought up chris masters. masters did lose a lot of mass once the wellness policy went into effect, for obvious reasons. you know what? he also lost his prime spot on television, too. what the fuck message do you think that sends? now he's back up looking like a freak, and, wouldn't you know it, he's back featured and pushed on tv. find a picture of eddie guerrero when he started wrestling, then remember what he looked like when he died. why exactly do you think that is? these guys know what they have to do to succeed, and to a very large degree that is dictated by vince mcmahon. add into that pain medication (and they are all on some kind of pain medication) and whatever recreational drugs most of them take to get by and deal with the grind. sure, no one puts a gun to their head, and they all know what the deal is when they get into it, but that's okay with you? fuck 'em? fuck that. benoit obviously had serious problems. so did lots of these guys. it's happened way too many times now, and shit needs to change.
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#254442 - 06/26/07 10:36 PM
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Porn Jesus
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Vince made Dusty Rhodes wear polka dots. For that alone he deserves to fry. (And not in his limo in some lame swerve).
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#254444 - 06/26/07 11:01 PM
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Max Hardcore Prison Bitch
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WWE ON DEFENSE; PRESS RELEASE QUESTIONS "SENSATIONALISTIC REPORTING" By: Bob Ryder 6/26/2007 6:46:57 PM
WWE issued a press release this afternoon following the press conference held by local authorities concerning the Benoit tragedy.
The release counters speculation in the news media that steroids were involved in the murder-suicide.
Here is the complete text of the WWE press release:
STAMFORD, Conn.--(BUSINESS WIRE)--World Wrestling Entertainment (NYSE: WWE - News) is stunned and saddened by the details released by local authorities concerning the double homicide-suicide involving Chris Benoit, his wife, Nancy, and his son, Daniel.
However, WWE is concerned with the sensationalistic reporting and speculation being undertaken by some members of the media following the press conference held by the Fayette County Sheriff's Department and the District Attorney. During the press conference, the investigating authorities made the following points, all of which run contrary to the media speculation that "roid rage" was a factor in the senseless murders and suicide:
1. The authorities stated that all drugs found in the house were believed to be legal prescriptions.
2. Steroids were not, and could not, be related to the cause of death (asphyxiation). Authorities had no factual basis to speculate as to Benoit's state of mind, and rightly did not do so.
3. Toxicology tests have not even been completed, so there is no current evidence that Benoit even had steroids or any other substance in his body. In that regard, on the last test done on Benoit by WWE's independently administered drug testing program, done on April 10, 2007, Benoit tested negative.
4. The physical findings announced by authorities indicate deliberation, not rage. The wife's feet and hands were bound and she was asphyxiated, not beaten to death. By the account of the authorities, there were substantial periods of time between the death of the wife and the death of the son, again suggesting deliberate thought, not rage. The presence of a Bible by each is also not an act of rage.
5. WWE strongly suggests that it is entirely wrong for speculators to suggest that steroids had anything to do with these senseless acts, especially when the authorities plainly stated there is no evidence that Benoit had steroids in his body, pending the toxicological reports, and that they had no evidence at this time as to the motive for these acts.
WWE is continuing to monitor the ongoing investigation being conducted by local authorities.
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