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#25234 - 05/07/04 10:34 AM Miss Arroyo with AIDS?
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Registered: 10/17/03
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Is it true that this filthy slut is infected with AIDS? I'd like to kill the asshole who she got it from. Miss Arroyo is an anal bitch I like very much because she gives all in her scenes. I wonder what happens to a slut once it's known she's infected, since she (supposedly) cannot work in porn anymore.

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#25235 - 05/07/04 10:48 AM Re: Miss Arroyo with AIDS?
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Yes, she is applying for a job as a sandwich artist at subway. Okay, I know, that's very insensitive.

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#25236 - 05/07/04 10:57 AM Re: Miss Arroyo with AIDS?
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Okay, I know, that's very insensitive.

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Its not the most insensitive comment I've heard about the current crisis dont worry......
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#25237 - 05/07/04 11:06 AM Re: Miss Arroyo with AIDS?
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Its actually HIV...there is a giant difference...
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#25238 - 05/07/04 01:23 PM Re: Miss Arroyo with AIDS?
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What percentage of people who get HIV actually get AIDS? Anyone know?

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#25239 - 05/07/04 01:45 PM Re: Miss Arroyo with AIDS?
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with some of the drugs nowadays you can have HIV and not get AIDS...from what i understand...

Im no doctor though...im just a piece of poop
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#25240 - 05/07/04 02:28 PM Re: Miss Arroyo with AIDS?
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Its actually HIV...there is a giant difference...




Indeed, lets not make it something it's not. And you're right Mr Poo, there are some people who have been HIV positive since the early 80's and have not developed full blown AIDS. It's all in how you look after yourself.
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#25241 - 05/07/04 03:20 PM Re: Miss Arroyo with AIDS?
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Very true, but don't make it sound like it's a cakewalk to have HIV, though. It's stil a disease.

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#25242 - 05/07/04 03:40 PM Re: Miss Arroyo with AIDS?
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I have a friend with the HIVvy...and other than the EXPENSIVE meds he acts and feels just like any joe blow. Actually i must say he is actually a happier person now. But Im sure that's not going to be the case with everyone. It made him realize what's important in life, and what just garbage. He used to be a tortured soul, but now he is pretty normal and happy. Hes had it for 7 years and supposedly his viral load is almost undectable. HIV meds have come a LONG way.
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#25243 - 05/07/04 03:45 PM Re: Miss Arroyo with AIDS?
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No sex for seven years?

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#25244 - 05/07/04 04:09 PM Re: Miss Arroyo with AIDS?
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I believe HIV causes no symptoms itself after the initial flu-like symptoms. This is part of the problem: an untreated individual may be infectious for a decade or more before becoming symptomatic.

Another way of covering it: HIV (virus) causes AIDS (illness) after a long delay if untreated.

If she can afford the drugs and can tolerate them she'll probably never get AIDS or have any symptoms of it. Taking all those pills and avoid contact with others that would infect them may be the only changes she has to make (no more appearing in porn).

Reference: NIH's HIV Infection and AIDS: An Overview. Lots of good information under the main NIH page here, very readable, here


Edited by jrv (05/07/04 04:44 PM)
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#25245 - 05/07/04 04:15 PM Re: Miss Arroyo with AIDS?
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How expensive are these medications?

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#25246 - 05/07/04 04:19 PM Re: Miss Arroyo with AIDS?
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he spends about 250 a month on meds if i remember right. And as for no sex...he fucks chicks all the time. and BARE BACK There are tons and tons of support groups for people with HIV. think they whine about it all day? No they just fuck each other like crazy pigs. Well at least thats what he says...LOL
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#25247 - 05/07/04 04:21 PM Re: Miss Arroyo with AIDS?
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he spends about 250 a month on meds if i remember right. And as for no sex...he fucks chicks all the time. and BARE BACK There are tons and tons of support groups for people with HIV. think they whine about it all day? No they just fuck each other like crazy pigs. Well at least thats what he says...LOL




In that case why don't we get all the HIV infected performers together and make a smokin' hot HIV gangbang porno? Or is that a bit morbid......
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#25248 - 05/07/04 04:23 PM Re: Miss Arroyo with AIDS?
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Do people really do that? Do people infected with HIV have sex freely with one another?

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#25249 - 05/07/04 04:25 PM Re: Miss Arroyo with AIDS?
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I don't see the harm.....if they're already positively infected it seems to me a great way for them to get the sex they need
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#25250 - 05/07/04 04:27 PM Re: Miss Arroyo with AIDS?
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You're right. I guess they can't get more HIV positive or anything.

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#25251 - 05/07/04 05:02 PM Re: Miss Arroyo with AIDS?
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No sex for seven years?



You're gonna get hairy palms...

HIV has many variants/subtypes/clades/etc. The combination of drugs used in treatment is targeted at the specific virus the patient has. HIV+ people need to avoid further infection because having two or more variants present may require more drugs that have to be used, and beyond the cost and toxicity is the risk that there might not be a combination of drugs that can be used together or treat every variant present.

If it weren't for the risks of multiple HIV variants the gay porn industry could come out of the closet, admit they're all HIV+ and shoot bareback.

PS. In other words, you can get more HIV positive, and this can be problematic for treatment.
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#25252 - 05/07/04 07:53 PM Re: Miss Arroyo with AIDS?
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That's interesting, I wasnt aware of that. Thanks jrv
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#25253 - 05/07/04 10:03 PM Re: Miss Arroyo with AIDS?
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Sadly, I'm learning more about HIV and AIDS in the past few weeks than I have in the past few years.

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#25254 - 05/08/04 01:48 AM Re: Miss Arroyo with AIDS?
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That's interesting, I wasnt aware of that. Thanks jrv



... and now I find an article on CNN Bill lets people with HIV donate organs to let HIV+ people donate their organs to other HIV+ people.

Organ banks already have to type organs by blood type and who-knows-what-else to avoid rejection so it's not a huge step to make sure that organs with one HIV variant only go to a person with a close-enough variant. The other possibility it just that I was completely wrong on HIV variant problems. I couldn't find the reference on NIH with a casual search when posting the first note: I'll try harder tomorrow.
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#25255 - 05/08/04 03:58 AM Re: Miss Arroyo with AIDS?
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The other possibility it just that I was completely wrong on HIV variant problems. I couldn't find the reference on NIH with a casual search when posting the first note: I'll try harder tomorrow.



OK, my memory hadn't totally failed. This NIH press release Infection by Closely Related HIV Strains Possible discusses it. A search on "superinfection" in your favorite reference will turn up more information.
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#25256 - 05/08/04 08:50 AM Re: Miss Arroyo with AIDS?
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I've said this time and time again... it is not right for two HIV+ people to have sex with each other over and over again and exchange other HIV partners. That's how additional strains of the HIV virus is exchanged fromone another. It's like re-infecting each other. Not a good idea at all!!!

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#25257 - 05/08/04 10:45 AM Re: Miss Arroyo with AIDS?
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meh. i guess they now have to make sex condom scenes with eachother now.
who says sex has to be barebacked anal?
they can branch out and do other sexy stuff.
watersport movies, bj flicks, and the ol donkey punch
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#25258 - 05/08/04 10:50 AM Re: Miss Arroyo with AIDS?
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I don't know what the big fuss is. I'm able to stroke to condom scenes.

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#25259 - 05/08/04 10:55 AM Re: Miss Arroyo with AIDS?
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I don't know what the big fuss is. I'm able to stroke to condom scenes.




I can too, but bareback fucking gets me going even more
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#25260 - 05/08/04 10:56 AM Re: Miss Arroyo with AIDS?
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I think now is a capital time to introduce anal play--fists, preposterously large objects, whatever. I can get off watching that. But it's gotta be big shit.
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#25261 - 05/08/04 01:27 PM Re: Miss Arroyo with AIDS?
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See. I like porn that's realistic for me. Something that I can see happening to me. That's why I can't get off on scenes where there's more than two people. I can get off on condom porn because most of the time when I'm having sex in real life, it's with a condom.

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#25262 - 05/08/04 02:49 PM Re: Miss Arroyo with AIDS?
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I've said this time and time again... it is not right for two HIV+ people to have sex with each other over and over again and exchange other HIV partners. That's how additional strains of the HIV virus is exchanged fromone another. It's like re-infecting each other. Not a good idea at all!!!



I knew I had seen it somewhere but the CNN article made me do a double-take, and I wanted a cite to back my original post.

If one of those transplant recipients infects someone the victim is going to have a more difficult treatment and shorter life expectancy because of the superinfection (if it's even treatable at all). Illinois is putting politics ahead of science and pubic safety in that bill. Very dumb.
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#25263 - 05/10/04 04:44 AM Re: Miss Arroyo with AIDS?
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Do you think that this HIV crisis in the industry will affect condom-free porn? I think not.

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#25264 - 05/10/04 09:26 AM Re: Miss Arroyo with AIDS?
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In a few months, things will be back to "normal". We'll then have another HIV scare that will lead to a few weeks of being "safe", then back to "normal".

Rinse. Wash. Repeat.

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