FGFM, what exactly is your point? Are you saying that Rudy was not universally loved. He wasn't. He was hated by the liberal elite like the NYT, Al Sharpton and the Democrats. By the end of his second term he had fought with alot of groups and it wore on people. The fact remeains that he accomplished a great deal and when he was faced with a crisis, he performed admirably. All the comparison you need is Rudy convicted Mark Rich and Hillary pardoned him for a campaign donation.