Jim I think your being dellusional about Rudy. He came into office and said he was going to lower crime, improve the economy, revitalize the city and reform govenment and all those things happened. Next your going to tell me the 4 championships were not his doing either. Fact is he got stuff done.

I realize that as a black man you just can't give him credit. But seeing how he extended righya to gays he's as far from a fachist as you can get.

Interesting that you give Clinton credit for The economy which had little to do with government. More interesting that you forget to mention that Rudy was a Clinton allie on the crime bill. Yeah. He's just a real neocon