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#24653 - 05/07/04 02:12 PM Re: what % of porn chicks are also hookers on the
bart Offline
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Registered: 04/25/04
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a one post wonder. did you sign up a new name just to post this? i am an orthopedic surgeon. what are you? is this mr poo's scumbag boss not liking what i wrote?




I am not Poo's boss. I do work with Poo and the scumbag part is correct.
I am thinking that the intent of what you wrote is to rattle the cage. If so, then you are doing a good job. It would be boring without a difference of opinion. If that is not your intent, then you may just have a irritating nature and that might not be your fault. You could have contracted Chagas at work and it is starting to effect you.... who is to say? You just did not sound like a doctor. Thinking about my comment, It was very shallow. I have to keep in mind that if a pornstar can sound like a doctor, it can go the other way as well. I was quick to judge and for that I am sorry.
Now I am a two post wonder






not trying to rattle the cage. i just cant believe,and especially with what is going on now, that some people have such a callous attitude towards safe(r) sex.

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#24654 - 05/07/04 02:19 PM Re: what % of porn chicks are also hookers on the
bart Offline
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Registered: 04/25/04
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what do I care if porn girls escort? the malice comes from him trolling another threas and specifically attacking me for cum eating, so I was all ready to fight it out in this one, that avtually turned into a discussion





specifically attacking you for eating cum....hmmm. you by your own admission will eat the cum out of an ass, anyones ass. that is your right. but now i see a thread where some people are faking their hiv tests so you have NO CLUE who is safe and who is not. its your funeral babe. i hope the money that you are paid is worth it for taking these kind of insane chances.

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#24655 - 05/07/04 02:41 PM Re: what % of porn chicks are also hookers on the
Kami Andrews Offline
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Registered: 01/25/04
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Im home in pittsburgh during the moratorium dumb ass

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#24656 - 05/07/04 03:22 PM Re: what % of porn chicks are also hookers on the
MrPoo Offline
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Registered: 12/12/03
Posts: 822
Loc: San Pornando Valley
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what do I care if porn girls escort? the malice comes from him trolling another threas and specifically attacking me for cum eating, so I was all ready to fight it out in this one, that avtually turned into a discussion







specifically attacking you for eating cum....hmmm. you by your own admission will eat the cum out of an ass, anyones ass. that is your right. but now i see a thread where some people are faking their hiv tests so you have NO CLUE who is safe and who is not. its your funeral babe. i hope the money that you are paid is worth it for taking these kind of insane chances.




Wow..from that statement it sounds like you dont like porn. What we need here is people not damaging or smashing our girls that love to make porn. it helps no one. If you are a porn hater go somewhere else. If you love porn than think of something better to say then " its your funeral" If you are a doctor, why dont you think of some safer way instead of just trying to cut down OUR buisness. This is what we do. And we fucking like it. If you dont like to make porn, do be talent. If you are talent you know the risks...

Your back to being an asshole it seems. there is no need for you to try to freak out our girls. Porn has come along way and I will be damned if i let people like you push us back farther. Yes ther has been an outbreak. But i still believe its much safer to fuck ANY girl in the biz than to get a one night stand from some local bar. You have your right to voice your opinion, but being a prick isnt very interesting. its just being a prick.
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#24657 - 05/07/04 03:30 PM Re: what % of porn chicks are also hookers on the
Red Light Misfit Offline
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Registered: 01/25/04
Posts: 848
I'm not picking sides or anything here, but don't knock picking up girls at a local bar! There's nothing wrong with it!

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#24658 - 05/07/04 03:35 PM Re: what % of porn chicks are also hookers on the
MrPoo Offline
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Registered: 12/12/03
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Loc: San Pornando Valley
hey...im definatly not!!

But in my opion our buisness is safer than doing that. And thats just my opinion...
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#24659 - 05/07/04 04:02 PM Re: what % of porn chicks are also hookers on the
Red Light Misfit Offline
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Registered: 01/25/04
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Call me a risk taker then.

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#24660 - 05/07/04 04:22 PM Re: what % of porn chicks are also hookers on the
MrPoo Offline
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Registered: 12/12/03
Posts: 822
Loc: San Pornando Valley
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Call me a risk taker then.




Your are a risk taker!! Its your fuckin funeral man! LOL
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#24661 - 05/07/04 05:49 PM Re: what % of porn chicks are also hookers on the
bart Offline
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Registered: 04/25/04
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Wow..from that statement it sounds like you dont like porn. What we need here is people not damaging or smashing our girls that love to make porn. it helps no one. If you are a porn hater go somewhere else. If you love porn than think of something better to say then " its your funeral" If you are a doctor, why dont you think of some safer way instead of just trying to cut down OUR buisness. This is what we do. And we fucking like it. If you dont like to make porn, do be talent. If you are talent you know the risks...

Your back to being an asshole it seems. there is no need for you to try to freak out our girls. Porn has come along way and I will be damned if i let people like you push us back farther. Yes ther has been an outbreak. But i still believe its much safer to fuck ANY girl in the biz than to get a one night stand from some local bar. You have your right to voice your opinion, but being a prick isnt very interesting. its just being a prick.






i like porn. and i am not smashing or damaging girls who like to make porn. i just dont see the reason why, for the sake of entertainment, they feel they need to take the risks they do.

you think im being a prick, so be it. you feel its safer being with a porn chick then a one night stand you meet at a bar. maybe, but that is why most sane people would be wearing a condom with someone they just met at a bar. if you just met a chick in a bar that handed you an hiv test and said "ride me bareback cowboy" would you do it?

you say instead of trying to cut down your business find a safer way?????????????? IS THAT A JOKE?

WEARING CONDOMS WOULD BE A GOOD START.

especially when they are taking two guys at once up a hole thats going to stretch to sizes it should'nt be.

even hockey players started wearing helmets(note the canadian influence) when they started to get hurt.


i will say that i chose the wrong phrase to express my thoughts to kami and for that im sorry.

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#24662 - 05/07/04 05:55 PM Re: what % of porn chicks are also hookers on the
JRV Offline
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Registered: 08/03/03
Posts: 5849
Loc: TX, USA
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WEARING CONDOMS WOULD BE A GOOD START.



If safer sex means depending on condoms look at the size of the obit list in gay porn.

The approach straight porn has used to protect against AIDS is unusual: Just Say No to HIV+ partners (i.e., you can’t get HIV from a HIV- partner no matter how perverted the sex act – it’s not the sex act, it’s the HIV +/- status of the partner that matters). Gay porn follows the usual prescription of depending on condoms. Experience seems to show that the straight porn approach appears to work rather better and it certainly makes more sense, if you really know the partner is HIV-.

The problem is reliability of testing. That’s happened before in the Marc Wallice outbreak and resulted in the modern AIM system. From what performers here have said the modern AIM system is not susceptible to faking. The problem is getting people to stay within the verifiable-test system. This outbreak appears to have occurred because Darren James went to Brazil and shot with performers who weren’t working within an AIM-like system. New performers pose another risk in my opinion due to pressures within the “Fresh Meat” segment of the market.

Given the results of the gay porn approach (which appears consistent with NIH/CDC recommendations) as compared to the results of the straight porn approach I think that the goal should be to improve the straight porn approach and not throw it out and focus on sex acts.

I’m not sure what the other diseases on the standard AIM test form are.
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#24663 - 05/07/04 06:01 PM Re: what % of porn chicks are also hookers on the
bart Offline
Rob Black's Crack Pipe

Registered: 04/25/04
Posts: 107
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WEARING CONDOMS WOULD BE A GOOD START.



If safer sex means depending on condoms look at the size of the obit list in gay porn.

The approach straight porn has used to protect against AIDS is unusual: Just Say No to HIV+ partners (i.e., you can’t get HIV from a HIV- partner no matter how perverted the sex act – it’s not the sex act, it’s the HIV +/- status of the partner that matters). Gay porn follows the usual prescription of depending on condoms. Experience seems to show that the straight porn approach appears to work rather better and it certainly makes more sense, if you really know the partner is HIV-.

The problem is reliability of testing. That’s happened before in the Marc Wallice outbreak and resulted in the modern AIM system. From what performers here have said the modern AIM system is not susceptible to faking. The problem is getting people to stay within the verifiable-test system. This outbreak appears to have occurred because Darren James went to Brazil and shot with performers who weren’t working within an AIM-like system. New performers pose another risk in my opinion due to pressures within the “Fresh Meat” segment of the market.

Given the results of the gay porn approach (which appears consistent with NIH/CDC recommendations) as compared to the results of the straight porn approach I think that the goal should be to improve the straight porn approach and not throw it out and focus on sex acts.

I’m not sure what the other diseases on the standard AIM test form are.





im just saying it would be a good start. are there girls out there that are condom only? if there are are any of them on the quarantine lists? if there are have any of them tested positive?

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#24664 - 05/07/04 07:41 PM Re: what % of porn chicks are also hookers on the
Toelicker Offline
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Registered: 04/21/04
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Holy Shit, Kate Frost is listed on there. I'd fuck her for a dollar. Maybe even 2,000 of them.



She had a thing for trannies in the US, and did a couple of bareback shoots for Evil Angel in Brazil.





Oh. Well shee-it.
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#24665 - 05/07/04 07:43 PM Re: what % of porn chicks are also hookers on the
JRV Offline
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Registered: 08/03/03
Posts: 5849
Loc: TX, USA
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im just saying it would be a good start.



I'm arguing condoms are no better than a secondary measure, far behind testing in importance. Condoms might indeed be a false sense of security.

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are there girls out there that are condom only? if there are are any of them on the quarantine lists?



I think there are very few condom-only girls. There are only a couple of video companies they can work for. More common I think is a girl having a short list of performers she's willing to work bareback with.

(this will change temporarily once shooting resumes of course)

Were there any condom-only girls who had traceable contact to any of the HIV+ cases then absolutely they should be quarantined.

Smartt posted an obit list a couple of weeks ago. It’s almost entirely gay porn. Condoms may help but don’t seem sufficient. Over the last ten years the number of HIV infections in straight porn seems around one per year, mainly from two outbreaks. There are rumors Barbara Doll developed AIDS but with that possible exception I think there have been no AIDS cases resulting from performing in straight porn since the early 1990s at the latest, well before AIM and any current practice (and John Holmes, at least, got into gay sex in prison as well as drugs).

Also, see Kami’s comments in this thread about labdat and how performers can verify AIM results. This is how Autumn Rayne got in trouble with fake HIV tests: she didn’t verify the test (this what the Marc Wallice outbreak was about). People lie.

All things considered the practice of barring HIV+ performers seems to have worked amazingly well, certainly better than the gay porn practice emphasizing condoms. I'd rather focus on further improvements in a system that usually works rather than switching to one that doesn't.

(if condoms became universal nobody would continue to spend money on tests; I think they are either/or propositions)
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#24666 - 05/07/04 09:59 PM Re: what % of porn chicks are also hookers on the
Red Light Misfit Offline
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Registered: 01/25/04
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Contrary to our fantasies, these girls are doing this because of the money. Because of that, they'll continue to shoot without condoms.

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#24667 - 05/07/04 10:20 PM Re: what % of porn chicks are also hookers on the
Ozzie Offline
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Registered: 12/29/03
Posts: 538
Loc: Australia
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Contrary to our fantasies, these girls are doing this because of the money. Because of that, they'll continue to shoot without condoms.




I agree, there will always be girls willing to work without condoms for the money, regardless of the health risks. Many risk their health in other ways anyway...like drugs. Which is why they need the money in the first place
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#24668 - 05/07/04 10:41 PM Re: what % of porn chicks are also hookers on the
JRV Offline
Porn Jesus

Registered: 08/03/03
Posts: 5849
Loc: TX, USA
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Contrary to our fantasies, these girls are doing this because of the money.



Careful here.

Some girls do this only for the money.
Other girls may do it because the like it. Even these need income.

I know a lot of people who really enjoy their work and wouldn't want to do anything else. The still insist on being paid for it because they need the money to make house and car payments, pay bills, etc. You gotta be rich to love what you do so much you don't mind not being paid.
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#24669 - 05/07/04 10:49 PM Re: what % of porn chicks are also hookers on the side
Smartt Offline
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Registered: 04/30/03
Posts: 5869
Loc: Instead of looking at the girl...
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fortunatly thats the only skill we need




Suuuuure. It will be a GREAT skill for when you´re, like, 64 and stuff.

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#24670 - 05/07/04 10:55 PM Re: what % of porn chicks are also hookers on the
Ozzie Offline
AC Cream Wannabe

Registered: 12/29/03
Posts: 538
Loc: Australia
You have a good point jrv. But I never said it was all porn girls....

Good on those who do it for fun, and use their money wisely.
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#24671 - 05/07/04 11:07 PM Re: what % of porn chicks are also hookers on the
Red Light Misfit Offline
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Registered: 01/25/04
Posts: 848
If the pay wasn't this good, what percentage of the girls would you guess would stop?

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#24672 - 05/08/04 01:41 PM Re: what % of porn chicks are also hookers on the
bart Offline
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Registered: 04/25/04
Posts: 107
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If the pay wasn't this good, what percentage of the girls would you guess would stop?





by "this good" do you mean the 1000-1500 that lara roxx said she was paid for doing 5 scenes up the azz? cause that dont sound too good

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#24673 - 05/08/04 01:54 PM Re: what % of porn chicks are also hookers on the
MrPoo Offline
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LOL...i think that was a mis qoute...industry norm is she 1500 each..
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#24674 - 05/08/04 09:54 PM Re: what % of porn chicks are also hookers on the
Red Light Misfit Offline
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Registered: 01/25/04
Posts: 848
Isn't $1,500 the average pay for an anal scene? Or is it more?

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#24675 - 11/15/09 03:49 PM Re: what % of porn chicks are also hookers on the
ChipE Offline
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Loc: Coast of Cali
The count down for Raylene to start hookin has begun. Time is hard, PW's gotta eat.
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#24676 - 11/16/09 02:21 AM Re: what % of porn chicks are also hookers on the
Darrah Ford's ghost Offline
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Registered: 06/06/09
Posts: 1321
Has her husband gotten a job yet??


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#24677 - 11/16/09 07:55 AM Re: what % of porn chicks are also hookers on the
Dick Dastardly Offline
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Registered: 01/25/06
Posts: 4470
No, they all seem to be a conflict with his NA meetings.
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#24678 - 11/16/09 05:54 PM Re: what % of porn chicks are also hookers on the
Uomo Grassissimo!! Offline
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Registered: 04/14/06
Posts: 14755
Loc: Busy downloading [LEGALLY!]
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Has her husband gotten a job yet??







Easy way for you to get this info yourself, D, for the mope of any porn girl ....


Ask: Is the girl hooking/working in porn?


If the answer to that question is YES, then the answer to your question is NO.

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#24679 - 11/21/09 12:11 PM Re: what % of porn chicks are also hookers on the
Ms_Sarah Offline
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Registered: 01/21/09
Posts: 56
She isn't UTR already?

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#24680 - 11/21/09 12:17 PM Re: what % of porn chicks are also hookers on the
Steezo Offline
Porn Jesus

Registered: 01/11/06
Posts: 5287
Loc: Anchorage, Alaska
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She isn't UTR already?




I know I fondled her big tittays in a strip club once while she was giving me a dance. She told me what hotel she was staying at, and that she was going to be partying later. But I never asked for the room #. Not sure if she was trying to solicit me, or if she was just horny. I think I told her that her pussy reminded me of a stripper I once saw who had such big lips, she could tie her labia into a knot.
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