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#245639 - 05/18/07 08:18 PM Porn Star Goes To Law School
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Sort of. This Article says that Anita Cannibal is graduating college and has been accepted by the University of West Los Angeles School of Law. While I admire her, um, moxie, in going through school,WLA Law is not accredited by the American Bar Association. With a degree from an unacredited law school Anita will only be able to sit for the bar in California and will have limited options. I'm not hating, just pointing out the facts. In fact, if anita wants to contact me, I'll answer any questions she has about the practice.

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#245640 - 05/18/07 08:37 PM Re: Porn Star Goes To Law School
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In California, one does not need to go to law school in order to take the California bar. In theory, you can practice law in California if you passed the bar without going to law school but what client would really hire you knowing you didn't go to law school. Unless you went to a top 100 undergrad school.

But I highly doubt Anita Cannibal went to a top 100 undergrad program.

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#245641 - 05/18/07 10:09 PM Re: Porn Star Goes To Law School
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I like Anita. Whether she makes it or not, I admire her for trying, WLA or Harvard, she still has to pass the bar. If she can make it through school and she can punch her ticket she deserves the same respect or lack there of, that any other attorney would get.

Plus she's well suited for the job

pornstar -> gets paid by someone to fuck someone else
lawyer ---> gets paid by someone to fuck someone else over

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#245642 - 05/19/07 10:21 AM Re: Porn Star Goes To Law School
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Registered: 02/28/06
Posts: 137
Loc: california
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In California, one does not need to go to law school in order to take the California bar. In theory, you can practice law in California if you passed the bar without going to law school but what client would really hire you knowing you didn't go to law school. Unless you went to a top 100 undergrad school. But I highly doubt Anita Cannibal went to a top 100 undergrad program.




Very few clients are concerned with what law school, let alone what undergrad college their attorney attended. They are focused on what you can do for them and how much it costs. Also, since the actual practice of law is so different than the law school experience, I'm not sure it matters much anyway. Law school is highly theoretical and has often has little practical value insofar as representing clients in the real world. This problem is compounded by adherence to an awkward, inefficient and unfamiliar style of learning by asking roundabout questions (Socratic method). Ironically, I imagine the more highly ranked one's law school is, the more this is true. Law schools of course justify this by saying they are teaching you to "think like a lawyer" not "be a lawyer" whatever that means. Some professors also pride themselves on focusing on arcane, minute legal points rather than the "black letter law" that might be helpful in taking the bar exam. These lofty professors justify that by saying they are "not a bar review course."

That said, it would be better for Anita to attend a ABA Law School if she can get admitted to one. I suspect that even the school ranked at the bottom of the rankings chart would be just fine. I say this only because she would then be able to practice in other states and the quality of her education would be higher (even if it is unpractical). If she cannot get into an ABA school, I think a California certified school is fine *if* she has a strong interest in law and willing to work hard. If she can graduate and pass the bar, it's up to her how far she goes with it. Even if she has to practice in California, the state is so big and diverse, it's not the end of the world.
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#245643 - 05/19/07 05:19 PM Re: Porn Star Goes To Law School
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#245644 - 05/19/07 06:14 PM Re: Porn Star Goes To Law School
Moxie Offline
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[quoteVery few clients are concerned with what law school, let alone what undergrad college their attorney attended. They are focused on what you can do for them and how much it costs.




How naive. Saying clients don't care about credentials is like saying porn producers don't care what a girls tits look like. The going rate for a top law school grad is $200,000.00. Thats because when the case is lost, the CEO who hired the firm may lose his cushy job and wants to be able to go back to the board of directors and say "but I hired the best".

They can hire someone with less pedigree, who will get the job done equally well, but they won't have the pedigree. You can drive a Hugo and it should get the job done, but when you pass that German dealershhip you are strangely drawn. When you speak of lawyers, I assume you mean civil litigation. Most legal fights are not about law at all, they are about ego. When one side gets a lawyer from Georgetown, the other side wants something even better.

When clients enter litigation they go in it to win. Clients will spend ungodly amounts of money to defend cases and what they are spending it on is credentials. Law is the most pedigree obsessed profession next to medicine. Clients care deeply about credentials, and if they don't its cause they can't afford it.
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#245645 - 05/19/07 10:30 PM Re: Porn Star Goes To Law School
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[quoteVery few clients are concerned with what law school, let alone what undergrad college their attorney attended. They are focused on what you can do for them and how much it costs.




How naive. Saying clients don't care about credentials is like saying porn producers don't care what a girls tits look like. The going rate for a top law school grad is $200,000.00. Thats because when the case is lost, the CEO who hired the firm may lose his cushy job and wants to be able to go back to the board of directors and say "but I hired the best".

They can hire someone with less pedigree, who will get the job done equally well, but they won't have the pedigree. You can drive a Hugo and it should get the job done, but when you pass that German dealershhip you are strangely drawn. When you speak of lawyers, I assume you mean civil litigation. Most legal fights are not about law at all, they are about ego. When one side gets a lawyer from Georgetown, the other side wants something even better.

When clients enter litigation they go in it to win. Clients will spend ungodly amounts of money to defend cases and what they are spending it on is credentials. Law is the most pedigree obsessed profession next to medicine. Clients care deeply about credentials, and if they don't its cause they can't afford it.




Wow I actually agree on Moxie about this.

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#245646 - 05/20/07 02:35 AM Re: Porn Star Goes To Law School
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Loc: california
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[quoteVery few clients are concerned with what law school, let alone what undergrad college their attorney attended. They are focused on what you can do for them and how much it costs.




How naive. Saying clients don't care about credentials is like saying porn producers don't care what a girls tits look like. The going rate for a top law school grad is $200,000.00. Thats because when the case is lost, the CEO who hired the firm may lose his cushy job and wants to be able to go back to the board of directors and say "but I hired the best".





The hidden assumption in your analysis is that "top law school" = better attorney. I think your highly naive if you believe that. I went into great detail how law school bore little connection to the realities of law practice. They require totally different skills. Second, nor do I agree most litigation is about "ego". It's about money or a perceived wrong. I think you watch too much "Boston Legal."
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#245647 - 05/20/07 04:14 AM Re: Porn Star Goes To Law School
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Posts: 1557
Loc: New York
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[quoteVery few clients are concerned with what law school, let alone what undergrad college their attorney attended. They are focused on what you can do for them and how much it costs.




How naive. Saying clients don't care about credentials is like saying porn producers don't care what a girls tits look like. The going rate for a top law school grad is $200,000.00. Thats because when the case is lost, the CEO who hired the firm may lose his cushy job and wants to be able to go back to the board of directors and say "but I hired the best".





The hidden assumption in your analysis is that "top law school" = better attorney. I think your highly naive if you believe that. I went into great detail how law school bore little connection to the realities of law practice. They require totally different skills. Second, nor do I agree most litigation is about "ego". It's about money or a perceived wrong. I think you watch too much "Boston Legal."




Better Law School does not equal better lawyer, that is true. But try telling that to clients. I'd love to hire kids who are poor, hungry and smart, but clients want pedigree.

Secondly, what people want is a lawyer with a connection. Securities problem, you want someone from the SEC. White collar crime, a former US Attorney is the ticket. These agencies are just as picky for credentials as anyone else. For any truly complex matter your going to need a firm that can handle massive discovery projects and document review. Those happen to be the corporate firms that hire pretty exclusively from top schools.
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#245648 - 05/20/07 05:08 AM Re: Porn Star Goes To Law School
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Walking into a law firm or attorney's office, first two things I check out is 1) law degree and 2) previous connections such as former US Attorney or FBI or SEC like Moxie stated.

After that I'll be doing research on previous cases to see how good they are.

But if I walk into their office and I see their law degree coming from Cum Gobbler College of Law, I'd turn around and walk out the door immediately. They can be a hell of a lawyer and have weight to show me after the fact but unfortunately I have it in my head that they went to Cum Gobbler College.

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#245649 - 05/20/07 01:47 PM Re: Porn Star Goes To Law School
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It depends. Where someone went to law school only really factors into their early career. After that you make a name for yourself(good or bad), make connections and the rest goes from there. That said, I wouldn't waste a dime on a none certified law school.

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#245650 - 05/20/07 02:43 PM Re: Porn Star Goes To Law School
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True early career is what matters. But early career is when employers have nothing to look at but your degree, and all they have to market to clients is your degree. If Anita plans to open her own firm and attract her own clients then it could work out for her, though the bar passage rate for unacredited schools is appaling.
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#245651 - 05/20/07 03:29 PM Re: Porn Star Goes To Law School
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While I admire her, um, moxie, in going through school,WLA Law is not accredited by the American Bar Association.




I was going to say, most whores with any respectable post-industry career field seem to get their license of trade from DeVry University or equivalent.
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#245652 - 05/20/07 05:19 PM Re: Porn Star Goes To Law School
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#245654 - 05/21/07 11:38 AM Re: Porn Star Goes To Law School
Moxie Offline
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Salary's have just about doubled in that time. To be exact, going rate is $160k plus a 40K year end bonus. Though some firms are trying to lower the bonus to pay for the salary. They will do so at their peril. Salary Wars

Salaries have gone up first to battle silicon valley for talent and now due to increased business. Its really about the fact that little hiring is done outside the top 14-20 law schools. We could hire from other schools and get the work done, maybe even a little better. But its all about prestige and credentials, and, of course, ego.
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#245656 - 05/21/07 01:00 PM Re: Porn Star Goes To Law School
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I'm definitely in the wrong field of law. Would you like to trade one of your high paying corporate clients to me in exchange for a couple of bottom rung crack addict drug dealers and a guy who owes child support and steals anything that isn't nailed down?




Defending thieves and crack heads who snort up all of their profits is the wrong line of work. You never get paid all of your dollars. Keeping corporate thieves out of jail for big dollars will certainly put more bread on the table.
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#245658 - 05/21/07 01:59 PM Re: Porn Star Goes To Law School
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I'm definitely in the wrong field of law. Would you like to trade one of your high paying corporate clients to me in exchange for a couple of bottom rung crack addict drug dealers and a guy who owes child support and steals anything that isn't nailed down?




Welcome to the boards, Paperchase. Looking at your post, I'd say you have just the sort of client list to start your own porn performer agency. If the trio you mentioned aren't sold gold porners in the making, then my name isn't Nick Manning.
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#245659 - 05/21/07 04:13 PM Re: Porn Star Goes To Law School
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Posts: 459
Loc: California
It's nice to be able to do both.

Nothing is more entertaining than adult clients, but I dont get to pay the bills without the corporate clients and big hit PI cases.

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#245661 - 05/21/07 04:39 PM Re: Porn Star Goes To Law School
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Sounds like life on set to me, Paperchase!
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#245664 - 05/21/07 07:12 PM Re: Porn Star Goes To Law School
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Nothing is more entertaining than adult clients,...




And what exactly is so entertaining so about them, if you don't mind my asking.


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#245665 - 05/21/07 07:47 PM Re: Porn Star Goes To Law School
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Lawyers posting on XPT...

(think of the Jackson Brown song Lawyers in Love while you take sides).

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#245666 - 05/21/07 08:27 PM Re: Porn Star Goes To Law School
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I certainly hope that a degree from a well respected law school means something-- I just got back from Washington D.C. a few hours ago, where I went to attend my brother's graduation from Georgetown Law. Don't they say that there are two lawyers for every client now? Though he's the smartest kid in the family, and I'm sure he'll be fine, I do worry for him and hope he can snag a good job after he takes the Bar in a couple of months. Otherwise he can help me run our company, but for some reason he wants a legitimate, respected career. I don't get it.
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#245668 - 05/21/07 09:39 PM Re: Porn Star Goes To Law School
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I certainly hope that a degree from a well respected law school means something-- I just got back from Washington D.C. a few hours ago, where I went to attend my brother's graduation from Georgetown Law. Don't they say that there are two lawyers for every client now? Though he's the smartest kid in the family, and I'm sure he'll be fine, I do worry for him and hope he can snag a good job after he takes the Bar in a couple of months. Otherwise he can help me run our company, but for some reason he wants a legitimate, respected career. I don't get it.




Georgetown is a great school, and other then Harvard and Yale it may be the best law school to attend if you want to make the jump into working for the Federal Government.

He's going to be preoccupied with the bar for the next several months, and I recommend that he use the PMBR multistate questions in addition to the barbari outlines. He'll know what they are. No only did they help me pass the bar exam they nearly saved my fifth marriage!

Seriously, if he doesn't have a corporate job lined up yet, turn him loose on your copyright, intellectual property, and contract problems. Have him do some work under the supervision of your current lawyer so he can use their firm as a reference even though its a freebee.

And yes, the number of lawyers has been rapidly rising for years without a corresponding rise in the number of lawsuits. Based on my questionable memory, I think they are using the number of people who graduated from law school rather than people who passed the bar.

However of these hundred of thousands of law school grads I'd estimate that perhaps 20-30% are not actually practicing law at the moment. Rather, they are working in government agencies as regular staff, or they got the degree to obtain another job. (Its a traditional way to get a job as an FBI Agent for example) J.Edgar had a hard on for law school grads. (errr, maybe I should rephrase that:P) There are also a number of people who left the profession for other pursuits like politics. (your brother isn't one of them hopefully )

In short he needs to find ways to buff that resume early and often!






He starts classes for the Bar exam at Pepperdine on Tuesday-- I will pass your suggestions onto him, though what you said was all Greek to me.

He has already interned for a copyright law case-- funny enough, it was Jesse James vs some company in Australia. Our copyright issues aren't as bad as they used to be-- back in the "Wild West" of the internet, people were stealing our images left and right, and sometimes building a whole paysite out of our material! Now, it's more like little blips here and there, and most of these companies aren't worth going after, since they have no money anyhow. A recent example of a C&D that I had to send out-- Bella Models is using our images AGAIN on their site-- this is the second time I've had to go after them for it. They've not responded to me, so if anyone knows a better way to contact them than is listed on their site or in a "whois" lookup, I'd really appreciate it. Otherwise I'll have to drag my lawyer into this, which is just such a pain.
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#245669 - 05/21/07 09:42 PM Re: Porn Star Goes To Law School
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Very few clients are concerned with what law school, let alone what undergrad college their attorney attended. They are focused on what you can do for them and how much it costs.




How naive. Saying clients don't care about credentials is like saying porn producers don't care what a girls tits look like.



No, the Snowman is right for some clients. Not everyone is wrapped up in pedigrees; some take a "what have you done for me lately" view of things.

I had a job in the 1990s for a Fortune 500 company and worked a lot with the legal team, both staff and "temps" (my word for outside attorneys) - I was one of the few engineers who they they could understand and vice versa. In a decade of this I don't think I ever heard the school mentioned once, either for our people, our temps, or in briefings on the opposing attorneys. No telling what the secretaries were gossiping about, but we always focused on recent clients and cases.

And I know for fact the CEO didn't care. That's probably because he was a founder/CEO and not from a business school mill. Had he been from that environment he'd probably have cared more.

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Thats because when the case is lost, the CEO who hired the firm may lose his cushy job and wants to be able to go back to the board of directors and say "but I hired the best".




No way. That never happens. The general counsel takes the blame. The CEO isn't going to take fall when it's not his field. Look at Microsoft - Gates, Alchin & Crew were responsible for that trial mess, but the only one forced out at Microsoft was the general counsel. And in a smaller company with no full-time general counsel the board is likely to have been involved in hiring that outside counsel. (to my experience)

If losing a case is sufficiently catastrophic the CEO might go, but for the reason of having got into that situation in the first place, not because of the lawyer's pedigree.

As a client all I care about is has the guy handled similar cases, what were the outcomes, with cost being a distant third. A fancy degree will not make up for a rookie nor a losing record.

In college I happened to live in the law school dorm. I was told that some of the lower-ranked law schools in the state actually had a much better first-try pass rate at the bar exam because that was what they focused on. The higher-ranked schools usually had a lower first-try pass rate because they weren't focused on the bar exam. I was told that after graduation it was in some ways going to be like "starting over", studying a new field - the bar exam - in the months after graduation in order to pass.

A pedigree is an advantage if you can afford it no doubt, but the big bucks roll in after having a winning track record, and once you're the guy that won the big Dow Chemical environmental case or whatever nobody will ask what school you went to.
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#245670 - 05/21/07 10:44 PM Re: Porn Star Goes To Law School
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It's nice to be able to do both.

Nothing is more entertaining than adult clients, but I dont get to pay the bills without the corporate clients and big hit PI cases.

Michael

PrimeTimeUncensored.com




translation: porn chicks dont have any money to pay him unless you count "non monetary favors".
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#245672 - 05/22/07 01:09 AM Re: Porn Star Goes To Law School
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Registered: 02/18/07
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I certainly hope that a degree from a well respected law school means something-- I just got back from Washington D.C. a few hours ago, where I went to attend my brother's graduation from Georgetown Law. Don't they say that there are two lawyers for every client now? Though he's the smartest kid in the family, and I'm sure he'll be fine, I do worry for him and hope he can snag a good job after he takes the Bar in a couple of months. Otherwise he can help me run our company, but for some reason he wants a legitimate, respected career. I don't get it.




Georgetown is a great school, and other then Harvard and Yale it may be the best law school to attend if you want to make the jump into working for the Federal Government.

He's going to be preoccupied with the bar for the next several months, and I recommend that he use the PMBR multistate questions in addition to the barbari outlines. He'll know what they are. No only did they help me pass the bar exam they nearly saved my fifth marriage!

Seriously, if he doesn't have a corporate job lined up yet, turn him loose on your copyright, intellectual property, and contract problems. Have him do some work under the supervision of your current lawyer so he can use their firm as a reference even though its a freebee.

And yes, the number of lawyers has been rapidly rising for years without a corresponding rise in the number of lawsuits. Based on my questionable memory, I think they are using the number of people who graduated from law school rather than people who passed the bar.

However of these hundred of thousands of law school grads I'd estimate that perhaps 20-30% are not actually practicing law at the moment. Rather, they are working in government agencies as regular staff, or they got the degree to obtain another job. (Its a traditional way to get a job as an FBI Agent for example) J.Edgar had a hard on for law school grads. (errr, maybe I should rephrase that:P) There are also a number of people who left the profession for other pursuits like politics. (your brother isn't one of them hopefully )

In short he needs to find ways to buff that resume early and often!






He starts classes for the Bar exam at Pepperdine on Tuesday-- I will pass your suggestions onto him, though what you said was all Greek to me.

He has already interned for a copyright law case-- funny enough, it was Jesse James vs some company in Australia. Our copyright issues aren't as bad as they used to be-- back in the "Wild West" of the internet, people were stealing our images left and right, and sometimes building a whole paysite out of our material! Now, it's more like little blips here and there, and most of these companies aren't worth going after, since they have no money anyhow. A recent example of a C&D that I had to send out-- Bella Models is using our images AGAIN on their site-- this is the second time I've had to go after them for it. They've not responded to me, so if anyone knows a better way to contact them than is listed on their site or in a "whois" lookup, I'd really appreciate it. Otherwise I'll have to drag my lawyer into this, which is just such a pain.




Holly the true culprit isn't Bella Models but the whores that work for them. You need to contact the whores directly and tell them to tell Bella or you won't shoot them anymore. More likely than not the whores furnished the photos to Bella.

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#245673 - 05/22/07 06:53 AM Re: Porn Star Goes To Law School
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Registered: 07/05/05
Posts: 2134
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hey, this is strange, but i totally agree with fuckwhore on this one. the girls are providing the photos to bella models.
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#245674 - 05/22/07 02:22 PM Re: Porn Star Goes To Law School
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Registered: 05/06/05
Posts: 1946
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I certainly hope that a degree from a well respected law school means something-- I just got back from Washington D.C. a few hours ago, where I went to attend my brother's graduation from Georgetown Law. Don't they say that there are two lawyers for every client now? Though he's the smartest kid in the family, and I'm sure he'll be fine, I do worry for him and hope he can snag a good job after he takes the Bar in a couple of months. Otherwise he can help me run our company, but for some reason he wants a legitimate, respected career. I don't get it.




Georgetown is a great school, and other then Harvard and Yale it may be the best law school to attend if you want to make the jump into working for the Federal Government.

He's going to be preoccupied with the bar for the next several months, and I recommend that he use the PMBR multistate questions in addition to the barbari outlines. He'll know what they are. No only did they help me pass the bar exam they nearly saved my fifth marriage!

Seriously, if he doesn't have a corporate job lined up yet, turn him loose on your copyright, intellectual property, and contract problems. Have him do some work under the supervision of your current lawyer so he can use their firm as a reference even though its a freebee.

And yes, the number of lawyers has been rapidly rising for years without a corresponding rise in the number of lawsuits. Based on my questionable memory, I think they are using the number of people who graduated from law school rather than people who passed the bar.

However of these hundred of thousands of law school grads I'd estimate that perhaps 20-30% are not actually practicing law at the moment. Rather, they are working in government agencies as regular staff, or they got the degree to obtain another job. (Its a traditional way to get a job as an FBI Agent for example) J.Edgar had a hard on for law school grads. (errr, maybe I should rephrase that:P) There are also a number of people who left the profession for other pursuits like politics. (your brother isn't one of them hopefully )

In short he needs to find ways to buff that resume early and often!






He starts classes for the Bar exam at Pepperdine on Tuesday-- I will pass your suggestions onto him, though what you said was all Greek to me.

He has already interned for a copyright law case-- funny enough, it was Jesse James vs some company in Australia. Our copyright issues aren't as bad as they used to be-- back in the "Wild West" of the internet, people were stealing our images left and right, and sometimes building a whole paysite out of our material! Now, it's more like little blips here and there, and most of these companies aren't worth going after, since they have no money anyhow. A recent example of a C&D that I had to send out-- Bella Models is using our images AGAIN on their site-- this is the second time I've had to go after them for it. They've not responded to me, so if anyone knows a better way to contact them than is listed on their site or in a "whois" lookup, I'd really appreciate it. Otherwise I'll have to drag my lawyer into this, which is just such a pain.




Holly the true culprit isn't Bella Models but the whores that work for them. You need to contact the whores directly and tell them to tell Bella or you won't shoot them anymore. More likely than not the whores furnished the photos to Bella.




I don't buy that one. Most of these girls don't have access to our pictures, and why have they submitted ours only to Bella Models and not other sites-- such are their agents'? Plus our copyright is cropped out in all of them. Did the girls bother to open them in photoshop and cut the (c) Suze Randall out? I don't think so.
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#245675 - 05/22/07 02:45 PM Re: Porn Star Goes To Law School
MoronBoy Offline
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Registered: 07/30/06
Posts: 1712
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Lawyers posting on XPT...

(think of the Jackson Brown song Lawyers in Love while you take sides).

--Smiling Arab (ret)
--paperchase
--Michael aka pornlaw
--Moxie
--there used to be a guy named brooklaw

I know my business' attorney is registered, I don't think he ever wrote anything, he'd probably charge me for the time.




Just felt like pointing out brooklaw was Moxie's original name on this site.

The "Was Cody Lane Molested?" thread as it is now shows it was started by Moxie.

AdultFYI piece on thread shows the topic was started by Brooklaw.

Same guy, changed name.
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#245676 - 05/23/07 06:20 AM Re: Porn Star Goes To Law School
fuckwhore Offline
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Registered: 02/18/07
Posts: 376
Quote:

Quote:

Lawyers posting on XPT...

(think of the Jackson Brown song Lawyers in Love while you take sides).

--Smiling Arab (ret)
--paperchase
--Michael aka pornlaw
--Moxie
--there used to be a guy named brooklaw

I know my business' attorney is registered, I don't think he ever wrote anything, he'd probably charge me for the time.




Just felt like pointing out brooklaw was Moxie's original name on this site.

The "Was Cody Lane Molested?" thread as it is now shows it was started by Moxie.

AdultFYI piece on thread shows the topic was started by Brooklaw.

Same guy, changed name.




Everyone except Michael (pornlaw) should be titled "so-called attorneys" because I have only been able to verify Michael with the Bar. Everyone else can be pseudo-lawyers just to get some cred here.

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#245677 - 05/23/07 12:11 PM Re: Porn Star Goes To Law School
Houstondon Offline
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Registered: 03/11/07
Posts: 451
Loc: Houston
Quote:

Everyone except Michael (pornlaw) should be titled "so-called attorneys" because I have only been able to verify Michael with the Bar. Everyone else can be pseudo-lawyers just to get some cred here.




I doubt many members would want to be identified as attorney's given their status to the masses.
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#245678 - 05/23/07 12:13 PM Re: Porn Star Goes To Law School
Soopergrizz Offline
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Registered: 02/23/05
Posts: 3724
Loc: Paddling my canoe in the wild
Quote:

Quote:

Everyone except Michael (pornlaw) should be titled "so-called attorneys" because I have only been able to verify Michael with the Bar. Everyone else can be pseudo-lawyers just to get some cred here.




I doubt many members would want to be identified as attorney's given their status to the masses.




A small minority might not want to be identified as a pornography addicts either.
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#245679 - 05/23/07 12:22 PM Re: Porn Star Goes To Law School
Houstondon Offline
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Registered: 03/11/07
Posts: 451
Loc: Houston
Quote:

A small minority might not want to be identified as a pornography addicts either.




Touche'
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#245680 - 05/23/07 04:42 PM Re: Porn Star Goes To Law School
Sergio T. Offline
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Registered: 07/20/03
Posts: 5256
Loc: CSW Wrestling - Gracie Academy
Quote:

Everyone except Michael (pornlaw) should be titled "so-called attorneys" because I have only been able to verify Michael with the Bar. Everyone else can be pseudo-lawyers just to get some cred here.



Pornlaw is a real lawyer. Ive met him a few times. Cool guy.
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#245681 - 05/23/07 05:00 PM Re: Porn Star Goes To Law School
fuckwhore Offline
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Registered: 02/18/07
Posts: 376
Quote:

Quote:

Everyone except Michael (pornlaw) should be titled "so-called attorneys" because I have only been able to verify Michael with the Bar. Everyone else can be pseudo-lawyers just to get some cred here.



Pornlaw is a real lawyer. Ive met him a few times. Cool guy.




I know...that's what I said. After reading many of Moxie's posts I truly don't believe he is a lawyer. While Moxie is intelligent and educated but not a lawyer. If he is a lawyer then Nick Manning has 2 Master's degree and is a millionaire that left Wall Street to be in porn because he's God's gift to women.

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#245682 - 05/23/07 05:09 PM Re: Porn Star Goes To Law School
Sergio T. Offline
Porn Jesus

Registered: 07/20/03
Posts: 5256
Loc: CSW Wrestling - Gracie Academy
Quote:

Quote:

Quote:

Everyone except Michael (pornlaw) should be titled "so-called attorneys" because I have only been able to verify Michael with the Bar. Everyone else can be pseudo-lawyers just to get some cred here.



Pornlaw is a real lawyer. Ive met him a few times. Cool guy.




I know...that's what I said. After reading many of Moxie's posts I truly don't believe he is a lawyer. While Moxie is intelligent and educated but not a lawyer. If he is a lawyer then Nick Manning has 2 Master's degree and is a millionaire that left Wall Street to be in porn because he's God's gift to women.



I have my doubts as well.
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#245684 - 05/23/07 07:06 PM Re: Porn Star Goes To Law School
Soopergrizz Offline
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Registered: 02/23/05
Posts: 3724
Loc: Paddling my canoe in the wild
Quote:

If its important the owner of the board can contact me, and I can privately confirm my professional status.




The likelihood of a poster being a real lawyer is inversely proportional to how often he tells us what a hot-shit, vault 100, hiring partner, globe-trotting, porn-star fucker he is.

Mitigating factors can include often being wrong and being a fatuous blowhard.

I'd suggest that before giving Tony Malice your office direct line, I'd run the numbers.
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#245686 - 05/23/07 11:49 PM Re: Porn Star Goes To Law School
fuckwhore Offline
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Registered: 02/18/07
Posts: 376
Quote:

Speaking only for myself, if Tony wants to check he can just send me an e-mail here.




When you call Tony, please be ready to send him the following:

1) Photo of you holding your driver's license
2) copy of your driver's license
3) copy of your bar association card

This applies to all so called lawyers willing to prove they are lawyers.

I think Tony should create an exclusive avatar or designation for lawyers on this board.

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#245687 - 05/24/07 08:48 AM Re: Porn Star Goes To Law School
pornlaw Offline
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Registered: 01/01/06
Posts: 459
Loc: California
I had Anita on the network last night discussing law school.

In order to view the feed you will need to suspend/turn off the anitvirus software that you're using.

You can fast forward to her segment, its about 2 hours into the show.

Anita on PrimeTimeUncensored.com

Michael
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#245688 - 05/26/07 12:33 AM Re: Porn Star Goes To Law School
Anita Cannibal Offline
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Registered: 05/22/07
Posts: 13
Loc: Porno Central
Wow I had no idea the Sundial paper would get such attention, at the same time I was in the Daily News too. Thank you all for the comments. Most seem to be from those acclimated to the subject matter. University West Los Angeles School of Law admissions chair is familiar with FSC, J.Douglas, Dewitt, and sensitive to the community surrounding it, valley location. There are 9,000 alumni including a great many judges that sit on the bench in LA county. It is approximately $40,000 cheaper than the local ABA schools at $60,000 for the doctorate in jurisprudence. It is soon to be located in Chatsworth near the court building. The admissions chair knows who I am and what my career has been for the last 12 years, a point of tension for the last two years was my disclosure. I chose to disclose in order to give them the heads up in case of any controversy they may face. I was welcomed, told that I was allowed to get an education there, and that constitutional law would be interesting with me in it. The ashcroft v FSC case is in all the text books now. FSC, Miller, and other industry specific cases were subjects on the 2004 CA Bar exam. This is proof that the cases our attorneys have fought are important and thus make them sovereign power, so you all must bow to them from now on!


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#245689 - 05/26/07 02:17 AM Re: Porn Star Goes To Law School
fuckwhore Offline
Max Hardcore Prison Bitch

Registered: 02/18/07
Posts: 376
Quote:

Wow I had no idea the Sundial paper would get such attention, at the same time I was in the Daily News too. Thank you all for the comments. Most seem to be from those acclimated to the subject matter. University West Los Angeles School of Law admissions chair is familiar with FSC, J.Douglas, Dewitt, and sensitive to the community surrounding it, valley location. There are 9,000 alumni including a great many judges that sit on the bench in LA county. It is approximately $40,000 cheaper than the local ABA schools at $60,000 for the doctorate in jurisprudence. It is soon to be located in Chatsworth near the court building. The admissions chair knows who I am and what my career has been for the last 12 years, a point of tension for the last two years was my disclosure. I chose to disclose in order to give them the heads up in case of any controversy they may face. I was welcomed, told that I was allowed to get an education there, and that constitutional law would be interesting with me in it. The ashcroft v FSC case is in all the text books now. FSC, Miller, and other industry specific cases were subjects on the 2004 CA Bar exam. This is proof that the cases our attorneys have fought are important and thus make them sovereign power, so you all must bow to them from now on!




Congrats to you! Let us know how the bar exam is when you pass it.

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#245690 - 05/26/07 04:35 AM Re: Porn Star Goes To Law School
Sergio T. Offline
Porn Jesus

Registered: 07/20/03
Posts: 5256
Loc: CSW Wrestling - Gracie Academy
Quote:

Wow I had no idea the Sundial paper would get such attention, at the same time I was in the Daily News too. Thank you all for the comments. Most seem to be from those acclimated to the subject matter. University West Los Angeles School of Law admissions chair is familiar with FSC, J.Douglas, Dewitt, and sensitive to the community surrounding it, valley location. There are 9,000 alumni including a great many judges that sit on the bench in LA county. It is approximately $40,000 cheaper than the local ABA schools at $60,000 for the doctorate in jurisprudence. It is soon to be located in Chatsworth near the court building. The admissions chair knows who I am and what my career has been for the last 12 years, a point of tension for the last two years was my disclosure. I chose to disclose in order to give them the heads up in case of any controversy they may face. I was welcomed, told that I was allowed to get an education there, and that constitutional law would be interesting with me in it. The ashcroft v FSC case is in all the text books now. FSC, Miller, and other industry specific cases were subjects on the 2004 CA Bar exam. This is proof that the cases our attorneys have fought are important and thus make them sovereign power, so you all must bow to them from now on!



Welcome to the board Anita.
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#245691 - 05/28/07 12:38 PM Re: Porn Star Goes To Law School
Tricia Offline
Max Hardcore Prison Bitch

Registered: 07/28/06
Posts: 202
Loc: Malibu
A lawyer who has JUST passed the bar does indeed have a better chance of getting hired in a better position at a better law firm if he went to a law school with great credentials.
A lawyer who has JUST passed the bar but went to a lesser law school will have to be awfully damn impressive or will have to work their way up the ladder at smaller firms and gain a reputation of having a great case record.

Once a lawyer has a great case record, there will be less people who will care which school the lawyer went to. But in the beginning, it does matter.

I'd like to add Stanford into the discussion of top US law schools.

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#245693 - 05/28/07 05:47 PM Re: Porn Star Goes To Law School
3SB Offline
Max Hardcore Prison Bitch

Registered: 12/01/05
Posts: 278
Loc: Indiana
Quote:

Yes, omitting Stamford was a mistake on my part. Some people also say good things about the University of Michigan.


Michigan, Northwestern, Ohio State, Illinois, and Iowa as long as we are yanking the chain of Big Ten schools with some of the Top Law schools in the nation. Other non-Ivy League schools of note - Emory, Pennsylvania, Duke, Cornell....

Not all who go into law are doing so in hopes of working for The Firm. Also, even those who graduated at the bottom of their law school class and barely passed the bar on their 3rd try are still lawyers. Some might even be posting in this thread.

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#245694 - 05/28/07 05:57 PM Re: Porn Star Goes To Law School
jamesn Offline
Porn Jesus

Registered: 04/17/04
Posts: 6005
Loc: travieso capital management an...
penn and cornell are ivy
Quote:

Quote:

Yes, omitting Stamford was a mistake on my part. Some people also say good things about the University of Michigan.


Michigan, Northwestern, Ohio State, Illinois, and Iowa as long as we are yanking the chain of Big Ten schools with some of the Top Law schools in the nation. Other non-Ivy League schools of note - Emory, Pennsylvania, Duke, Cornell....

Not all who go into law are doing so in hopes of working for The Firm. Also, even those who graduated at the bottom of their law school class and barely passed the bar on their 3rd try are still lawyers. Some might even be posting in this thread.


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#245696 - 05/28/07 06:04 PM Re: Porn Star Goes To Law School
3SB Offline
Max Hardcore Prison Bitch

Registered: 12/01/05
Posts: 278
Loc: Indiana
Quote:

penn and cornell are ivy


Really? Gosh. Guess my lack of knowledge shows how much of a shit I give about Ivy League schools. HA!

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#245697 - 05/28/07 06:06 PM Re: Porn Star Goes To Law School
jamesn Offline
Porn Jesus

Registered: 04/17/04
Posts: 6005
Loc: travieso capital management an...
whateverbuttsex
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#245698 - 05/28/07 06:09 PM Re: Porn Star Goes To Law School
3SB Offline
Max Hardcore Prison Bitch

Registered: 12/01/05
Posts: 278
Loc: Indiana
Quote:

whateverbuttsex


We gave you up for adoption. You can't call me that anymore.

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#245699 - 05/28/07 06:13 PM Re: Porn Star Goes To Law School
jamesn Offline
Porn Jesus

Registered: 04/17/04
Posts: 6005
Loc: travieso capital management an...
you gave me up for adoption to arland dale you bastards. now i've got a dildo stuck up my ear and i cry whenever i see bald men.
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#245700 - 05/28/07 06:22 PM Re: Porn Star Goes To Law School
3SB Offline
Max Hardcore Prison Bitch

Registered: 12/01/05
Posts: 278
Loc: Indiana
We couldn't afford a good attorney to handle the adoption so we hired some scrub from a non-ABA school who claimed to have passed the bar on her 3rd attempt. She arranged your sale to Arland for $950 cash and the promise of a mention in the BTS of his next movie.

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