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#245124 - 05/17/07 11:58 AM What we lost - JFK
vanessa Offline
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This examination of the evidence is meticulous and well-documented. JFK II is a criminal indictment of George Herbert Walker Bush and establishes beyond a reasonable doubt his guilt as a supervisor in the conspiracy to assassinate John F. Kennedy.

"If the people knew what we had done, they would chase us down the street and lynch us."

George H.W. Bush


Watch the documentary on Google: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=2928756561478705121


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#245125 - 05/17/07 12:02 PM Re: What we lost - JFK
Bornyo Offline
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No thanks.

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#245126 - 05/17/07 12:07 PM Re: What we lost - JFK
Sister Fister Offline
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yea hey dude...the only way i would watch this monotoned asshole for an hour and a half is if i had to choose it or looking at your mangled mutilated body....
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#245127 - 05/17/07 12:37 PM Re: What we lost - JFK
vanessa Offline
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yea hey dude...the only way i would watch this monotoned asshole for an hour and a half is if i had to choose it or looking at your mangled mutilated body....




Ok, don't worry, you are excused. Anybody with an attention span of 30 seconds or anybody not interested in history is not going to be interested in this... everybody else, I don't think it's a waste of your time... judge for yourself. But try to go easy on the comments if you haven't even watched 10 minutes of it... What is a magic bullet?

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#245128 - 05/17/07 12:42 PM Re: What we lost - JFK
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....The Magic bullet is a fucking retarded theory...watch penn and teller's bull shit they show you how impact from a bullet will actually cause the target to be pulled tword the direction of where the bullet was actually comming from...
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#245129 - 05/17/07 12:58 PM Re: What we lost - JFK
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I saw the "magic bullet" pretty convincingly proven plausible on discovery channel or something like that using ballistic gel and either a real skeleton or whatever they simulated them with. They lined it all up and shot, and lo and behold their bullets were magic as well.

This is just more shit like the missile fired at the Pentagon, controlled demolition of the WTC, the Air Force downing the airliner over the atlantic...

If you like that kind of shit I suggest you sign up for the forums at www.abovetopsecret.com They take their conspiracy theories seriously over there.

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#245130 - 05/17/07 01:18 PM Re: What we lost - JFK
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Sometimes bad shit just happens to good people.

Although I still enjoy a decent conspiracy theory now and again. Mainly because they get people so worked up
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#245131 - 05/17/07 01:23 PM Re: What we lost - JFK
vanessa Offline
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....The Magic bullet is a fucking retarded theory...watch penn and teller's bull shit they show you how impact from a bullet will actually cause the target to be pulled tword the direction of where the bullet was actually comming from...




Well, that sounds interesting. Can you post some info about it? It's hard for me to imagine how the brain would come flying out towards to shooter, but I'm open to learning something new. There are some weird things in physics. I just imagine if you shoot somebody in the face with a rifle the brain goes flying out from the rear of the head. But again, all I know about rifles is from Hollywood movies, where the brain is splattered against the wall - maybe that is all BS.

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#245132 - 05/17/07 01:29 PM Re: What we lost - JFK
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here is the actual clip from penn and teller

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=62gvoKyODu4
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#245133 - 05/17/07 01:30 PM Re: What we lost - JFK
vanessa Offline
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Quote:

Sometimes bad shit just happens to good people.

Although I still enjoy a decent conspiracy theory now and again. Mainly because they get people so worked up




One US president shot dead - maybe. A second US president shot dead (his brother) - we are getting used to shot presidents. I don't know...

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#245134 - 05/17/07 01:35 PM Re: What we lost - JFK
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Quote:

Quote:

Sometimes bad shit just happens to good people.

Although I still enjoy a decent conspiracy theory now and again. Mainly because they get people so worked up




One US president shot dead - maybe. A second US president shot dead (his brother) - we are getting used to shot presidents. I don't know...




vanessa, RFK was not a president.
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#245135 - 05/17/07 01:37 PM Re: What we lost - JFK
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Quote:

Quote:

Quote:

Sometimes bad shit just happens to good people.

Although I still enjoy a decent conspiracy theory now and again. Mainly because they get people so worked up




One US president shot dead - maybe. A second US president shot dead (his brother) - we are getting used to shot presidents. I don't know...




vanessa, RFK was not a president.







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#245136 - 05/17/07 01:38 PM Re: What we lost - JFK
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Prison Planet is so whack they make Michael Moore sound credible.

Bornyo, I saw that show debunking conspiracy theories about the JFK assassination on the Discovery channel as well, good stuff.
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#245137 - 05/17/07 02:50 PM Re: What we lost - JFK
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Can you post some info about it? It's hard for me to imagine how the brain would come flying out towards to shooter, but



All sorts of strange things happen in high velocity impacts, especially supersonic impacts. The trick with bullets is that they have a wake with a very-low pressure area behind.

The bullet causes compression at the point and instant of impact, but that's followed immediately by the wake, which is lower pressure. The compressed mass is going to do an elastic rebound, some of it in the direction of least resistance, ie, in the direction of the hole, open air, and low pressure. It won't all go that way by any means due to momentum transfer, but some will.

Also, the shock-wave in front of the bullet is going to bounce off the far end of the skull that isn't blown off and push some stuff back out the entry hole.

Even in slow impacts, such as dropping a rock into a pond, some of this can be seen - you'll get a rebound *upwards*, towards the "shooter", in the middle where the rock was dropped, as well as outward ripples from the pressure wave in the water.

What actually happens in any given case depends on a lot of details, and human tissue can be complex. Having all of JFK's brains fly towards the shooter is likely impossible, but having some, even a lot, is not once you work out all the details.

Hypervelocity impacts can be even stranger. For example one problem with meteor/asteroid impact theories for a long time was that every candidate impact site was circular and not a long oval. What are the odds that *every* impact is perfectly vertical? Later it was realized that in hypervelocity impacts (much beyond the JFK rifles) the crater or energy release is always circular except for extreme cases: you always get a circle no matter what the impact except nearly horizontal grazing cases. So proposed impact sites didn't look so "lucky" after all...
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#245138 - 05/17/07 03:34 PM Re: What we lost - JFK
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bornyos correct i saw that also, they spent countless hours lining up the angle and trajectory with a fully formed skeleton with gel and bones made out of some composite, and then fired the shot, it didnt conclusively prove it but showed it to be far more then "a magic bullet joke" theory, if i remember correctly this was a few years back.( also something about the bullet being special i remember, different then normal bullets or something)

and bobby kennedy was never pres he was just the asshole attorney general brother who broke promises and went after the mob after they helped rig the election.

and there was no conspiracy around bobby some nut named sir han sir han or something took him out at the biltmore in la, god 10th grade history was so long ago.

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#245139 - 05/17/07 06:00 PM Re: What we lost - JFK
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Quote:

vanessa, RFK was not a president.





Wankus, nice to see you are back! Hope you are doing all right...

Did I get busted on this one? You wish... he was going to be president, but "they" decided not to wait that long this time.

"Robert Francis "Bobby" Kennedy (November 20, 1925 – June 6, 1968), also called RFK, was one of two younger brothers of U.S. President John F. Kennedy and served as United States Attorney General from 1961 to 1964. He was one of President Kennedy's most trusted advisors and worked closely with the president during the Cuban Missile Crisis. His contribution to the African-American Civil Rights Movement is sometimes considered his greatest legacy. After his brother's assassination in late 1963, Kennedy continued as Attorney General under President Johnson for nine months. He resigned in September 1964 and was elected to the United States Senate from New York that November. He broke with Johnson over the Vietnam War and after Eugene McCarthy nearly upset Johnson in the New Hampshire Primary in early 1968 Kennedy announced his own campaign for president.

Kennedy declared his candidacy on March 16, 1968 stating, "I do not run for the Presidency merely to oppose any man, but to propose new policies. I run because I am convinced that this country is on a perilous course and because I have such strong feelings about what must be done, and I feel that I'm obliged to do all I can." McCarthy supporters angrily denounced Kennedy as an opportunist, and thus the anti-war movement was split between McCarthy (whose base was among intellectuals, students and the upper middle class) and Kennedy (whose base was among working class Catholics and blacks).

On April 4, 1968, Kennedy learned of the assassination of Martin Luther King, Jr. and gave a heartfelt, impromptu speech in Indianapolis' inner city, in which Kennedy called for a reconciliation between the races. Riots broke out in 60 cities in the wake of King's death, but not Indianapolis, a fact many attribute to the effect of this speech. Kennedy openly challenged young people who supported the war while benefiting from draft deferments, visited numerous small towns, and made himself available to the masses by participating in long motorcades and street-corner stump speeches (often in troubled inner-cities). Kennedy made urban poverty a chief concern of his campaign, which in part led to enormous crowds that would attend his events in poor urban areas or rural parts of Appalachia."

"Kennedy defeated McCarthy in the critical California primary, but was assassinated moments after claiming victory."

"On June 4, 1968, Kennedy scored a major victory when he won the California primary. He addressed his supporters in the early morning hours of June 5, 1968 in a ballroom at the Ambassador Hotel in Los Angeles. He left the ballroom through a service area to greet supporters working in the hotel's kitchen. In a crowded kitchen passageway, Sirhan Sirhan, a 24-year-old Palestinian, opened fire with a .22 caliber revolver and shot Kennedy in the head at close range. Following the shooting, Kennedy was rushed to The Good Samaritan Hospital where he died the next day."

"After the assassination, the mandate of the Secret Service was altered to include protection of presidential candidates."

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#245140 - 05/17/07 06:13 PM Re: What we lost - JFK
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All sorts of strange things happen in high velocity impacts, especially supersonic impacts. The trick with bullets is that they have a wake with a very-low pressure area behind.

The bullet causes compression at the point and instant of impact, but that's followed immediately by the wake, which is lower pressure. The compressed mass is going to do an elastic rebound, some of it in the direction of least resistance, ie, in the direction of the hole, open air, and low pressure.




Earth to Enterprise. Can you hear me? Hypervelocity, elastic rebound, silicone tape around a melon? Do you copy?

Negative, cannot confirm science behind impact.

Anyone here at xpt who has used a comparable rifle (non hypervelocity) to shoot at a deer or something with a head, brain and skull? Please describe impact.

Jokes aside, I watched the melon video (the hidden implication maybe being that JFK was a melon head?) which is interesting, but I will try to find out more from some other sources. Maybe law enforcement has some info on those kind of things. Not that it matters, but just out of curiosity...

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#245141 - 05/17/07 07:28 PM Re: What we lost - JFK
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Earth to Enterprise. Can you hear me? Hypervelocity, elastic rebound, silicone tape around a melon? Do you copy?




A bullet hitting a skull is not an elastic collision.

And wrapping silicon tape around a melon is not going to simulate a skull with bone. Tape has high tensile strength along one dimension but generally rather poor compression performance along that line...

The simplest experiment is to fill a sink with water and drop a marble in it. Some water rebounds upwards. If you can't be bothered to do the experiment yourself why bother anyone else over it?
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#245142 - 05/17/07 08:48 PM Re: What we lost - JFK
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vanessa, I'm not Wankus. Everyone on this board who knows me, knows that.
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#245143 - 05/17/07 09:01 PM Re: What we lost - JFK
Bornyo Offline
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The new posting title has it confused nitneliun,



Apparently, his doctor is giving him blonde female hormone treatments.


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#245144 - 05/17/07 10:40 PM Re: What we lost - JFK
vanessa Offline
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vanessa, I'm not Wankus. Everyone on this board who knows me, knows that.




NitneLiun (does that stand for night lion?), I'm so sorry. lol Please don't take it personally. You are the last person I would want to offend... especially since your avatar is so attractive and trust inspiring. Also, your tagline is so smart that I already wanted to comment on it. Genius.

The sad truth is that I meant to address Winsock, who quoted your words in bold. I have a tendency to be dyslexic, so there are two names that swirl around my head, windsock and wankus, they both contain the letters W and K which guarantees that I will not be able to separate them. That aside, my brain works ok - most of the time; I remember a lot of details about people, but I have a very hard time remembering names or dates or numbers...

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#245145 - 05/17/07 11:15 PM Re: What we lost - JFK
vanessa Offline
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Quote:

The new posting title has it confused nitneliun,



Apparently, his doctor is giving him blonde female hormone treatments.




I think most of you are fun and interesting, obviously I'm posting here because there is something I like about you people, but there is a line where some of the comments you make go from being just playfully rough to being very hurtful to me. I can deal with a little bit of fun, and I understand if somebody has never been exposed to a “tranny” (whatever that means to each of you I don’t know, there are many different types of trannies, from she-male to post-op), there are a million questions and reservations and misunderstandings... I'm usually fairly tolerant around that, because I have the luxury of passing and I know the effect I have on straight men in person.

But, I'm not into self-abuse, so I'm not going to stick around if I feel I am being thoroughly and systematically disrespected on such a fundamental level. Especially not since I had to give up so much just to be who I am. I'll let you know what is not ok with me and then those of you who care can make up your minds...

1) A human being should never call another human being an "it". This is the worst thing you can say, as it strips the other person of any humanity. "It" is for objects, things that are not alive.

2) My driver's license says female. If it's good enough for them, it should be good enough for you. I’ve more estrogen and less testosterone in my blood then genetic women. If you continue to address me with "he", "him", "his" etc. I will take that personally. It doesn’t make any sense whatsoever. Nobody in my life addresses me that way. Not at school, not my family, nobody. So what’s up with you?

So, if you want to show off how boring, unoriginal and bigoted you have decided to be (while the world has long since moved on) feel free to use any one of these words in your next post: it, he, him, his
- yawn -

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#245146 - 05/17/07 11:22 PM Re: What we lost - JFK
papercut Offline
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stfu it
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#245147 - 05/18/07 12:07 AM Re: What we lost - JFK
ranathan Offline
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does this dumb foreign cunt not know that the nittany lion is the mascot for psu??

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#245148 - 05/18/07 06:12 AM Re: What we lost - JFK
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Not only doesn't know, doesn't care.

As to this:
Quote:

So, if you want to show off how boring, unoriginal and bigoted you have decided to be (while the world has long since moved on) feel free to use any one of these words in your next post: it, he, him, his




You can try to write a pushpoll or write this in in such a way as to be polarizing, but you are STILL wrong. I don't care how much estrogen you have in your system. It TAKES that much artificial doping to make a man appear to be a woman.

I will either refer to you by the gender box checked on your birth certificate, or by "it", since you desire to leave your masculinity behind. Calling you "it" at least acknowledges the hard work you've expended on your ruse.

It's not in your chromosomes, bro. You'll never change that.

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#245149 - 05/18/07 06:44 AM Re: What we lost - JFK
Sister Fister Offline
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Registered: 12/18/06
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Fuck yea Bornyo...

Oh and venessa...as much as you want to pretend...that hatchet wound between your legs...it is just your mutilated penis...that has been fashoioned on the outside to look like a vagina...can you have kids?? No you can'tm, it is just an opened wound that you refuse to let heal. So go listen to your hedwig album...turn on trans america and shut the fuck up you whinney self pompious freak o' nature
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#245150 - 05/18/07 07:33 AM Re: What we lost - JFK
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Back to the JFK video. I did watch the whole thing last night. I love a good conspiracy theory. The video presented some plausible points, perhaps, but any message they were trying to persuade me with was lost in the sophomoric way the video was produced. Maybe it's just prisonworld's style, but I felt at times as if I was watching an episode of South Park, and not a serious documentary. Thanks for the entertainment, but I'm still unconvinced.
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#245151 - 05/18/07 08:12 AM what to say?
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Quote:

Not only doesn't know, doesn't care.

As to this:
Quote:

So, if you want to show off how boring, unoriginal and bigoted you have decided to be (while the world has long since moved on) feel free to use any one of these words in your next post: it, he, him, his




You can try to write a pushpoll or write this in in such a way as to be polarizing, but you are STILL wrong. I don't care how much estrogen you have in your system. It TAKES that much artificial doping to make a man appear to be a woman.

I will either refer to you by the gender box checked on your birth certificate, or by "it", since you desire to leave your masculinity behind. Calling you "it" at least acknowledges the hard work you've expended on your ruse.

It's not in your chromosomes, bro. You'll never change that.




So what about the millions of intersex people that are born every year? That's not artificial. Nature doesn't have just male and/or female. Besides, pacemakers are artificial, the pills you swallow every day are artificial, breast implants are artificial. A lot of people wouldn't live to as long as they do if it wasn't for "artificial" things.

The causes of transsexualism are not clear, it's certainly not something you pick yourself or decide to do one day. Recent research is pointing towards it having something to do with the development of the brain in the fetus. But nobody really knows yet.

As far as my not being able to have children, that's sad, but then again, there are millions of couples who don't or can't have children. You don't go around calling a woman who is infertile "it"? What happens after menopause? What about men who don't have a high enough sperm count? Besides, nobody is asking you to marry me anyway.

My being "pompious", you are probably right, why else would I have walked into this place knowing what I knew. (I should have known that unlike the actor by the same name Peeter OTool is not gay).

Some of you her are really good people, as I know from private correspondence, but others are just stupid assholes.

I have no agenda here, other then enjoying myself. After reading some of the posts above this morning I started crying. Why?

Vanessa

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#245152 - 05/18/07 08:30 AM Re: what to say?
big moose Offline
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there are quite a few people on here who must feel quite unsatisfied with the world, that they would actually appear to view an internet message board as some kind of venue to showcase the reckless masculinity that apparently they have no outlet for in real life. i'm at a loss trying to imagine how a person could sincerely feel a compulsion to get online and go out of their way to belittle someone's existence over something as trivial as what's in their pants, much less that others would sincerely think it was so awesome that they did so.

but i'm probably taking it too seriously. one of my birds just died and i'm feeling that shit isn't fair anyway. i guess it's better to talk trash on some silly forum than to go act out such ugliness in real life. still,
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#245153 - 05/18/07 09:44 AM Re: what to say?
Bornyo Offline
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...one of my birds just died and i'm feeling that shit isn't fair anyway...




Must be the bird.

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#245154 - 05/19/07 08:58 PM Re: what to say?
vanessa Offline
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I received a private apology letter from PeeterOToole, which is almost miraculous. But, I was teary eyed for an entire day and I am still a little shaken. I am lucky because in real life I never have been harassed, so this is a taste of what it would be like if I was less fortunate. I have one thing in common with a lot of the porn girls, and that is that I had a physically abusive stepfather. So all this triggers a bad and familiar taste in my mouth. It triggers a craving for a strong and kind man to be there to protect me... I'm sure you are familiar with the dysfunctional relationship dynamics that probably a lot of the girls in porn have... Thankfully I am in loving hands, so I am safe. I am proud of who I am, and I am glad that I can be myself, that I can feel alive, even if that means feeling pain. Do you know what I am talking about?

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#245155 - 05/20/07 01:57 PM Re: what to say?
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Over the years I've met a wide and bizarre bunch of people in this industry, including transsexuals. I have to say that for the most part, I've found them no different to anyone else in the industry and I have no problem with Vanessa.

For me to pretend otherwise would be insanely hypocritical.

If you work in the industry, you learn pretty quickly that any hang ups and preconceptions you entered with will either disappear or force you out into the real world, where people have to 'work' for a living.
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#245156 - 05/20/07 03:47 PM Re: what to say?
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This may be the unpopular opinion around here, but, Conky's right. Maybe it's four years of College in the West Village (NYU, Class of '90) where I met LOTS of freaky people, or maybe it's having two ex-hippie parents, but I've learned over the years that people are just people: White, Black, Chinese, Indian, Straight, Gay and, yes, even the Trannies.

I look at Trannies the same way I look at Gays: I'm not going to fuck one, and I surely don't want to see one naked, pre or post op. But outside of that, They're just people, the same as you and me. A bit more screwed up, perhaps, but who among us is truly "normal." As long as they don't try to hit on me, I don't have a problem. And I haven't seen Vanessa hitting on anybody here. So lighten up.

Ah, but what do I know. I spent the day at Sheep Meadow smoking Ganj, sipping Beers and watching pale chicks trying to get tan. So I'm a little buzzed.

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#245157 - 05/20/07 04:52 PM Re: What we lost - JFK
JRV Offline
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My driver's license says female. If it's good enough for them, it should be good enough for you. I’ve more estrogen and less testosterone in my blood then genetic women.




Perhaps, but your DNA is strictly male, is it not? And if you go to a hospital emergency room you tell them you're male but will a lot of prescriptions, right? (so they don't do the wrong treatment)

I'm not sure from what perspective it makes sense to objectively switch gender designations (with current medical technology), other than the person in question simply wishes it were so. In the future it might be possible to make real changes at all levels in the body, but lipstick and hormones are just a minor part of it as far as biology goes.

I really don't care, as long as no new demands are placed on me as a result: I don't want Yet Another List of Words That Cannot Be Spoken, nor do I want to keep track of Yet Another List of Politically Correct References to Sensitive Groups. It's hard enough keeping track of whether "Negro", "Black" or "African American" is the term to use this week, much less educating myself on such things as "Nappy-Headed" (a term I had never heard until the Imus incident, and might easily have used had I seen it once and gotten the definition & context wrong).
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#245158 - 05/20/07 07:20 PM Re: What we lost - JFK
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Perhaps, but your DNA is strictly male, is it not?



To be perfectly honest, I never looked at my DNA, so I couldn't tell you for sure. As far as I am concerned it's mostly female.

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And if you go to a hospital emergency room you tell them you're male but will a lot of prescriptions, right? (so they don't do the wrong treatment)



Actually, it gets stressful every time I have to fill out a form where it asks for female/male. It depends on the circumstances. Sometimes I make arrows or annotations on the forms. Thinking about it, I don't know what treatment would be different for male or female, unless it has something to do with the genitalia... If I ever end up in the emergency room unconscious I hope they figure out what to do without me having to tell them... which is free breast implant surgery.

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I'm not sure from what perspective it makes sense to objectively switch gender designations (with current medical technology), other than the person in question simply wishes it were so.



That's a very good way to look at it. To the individual it is ultimately irrelevant. All I care about is that I get called Miss or Mam. When I am buying my groceries or get pulled over by the police and I don't want to have to show a male id and have to start explaining my entire life to complete strangers who don't need to know me in such intimacy. It makes it easier for them and for me.

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In the future it might be possible to make real changes at all levels in the body, but lipstick and hormones are just a minor part of it as far as biology goes.



You are right about the lipstick. But hormones are a huge part of biology. Without testosterone EVERY fetus develops into a female, regardless of male or female dna. It actually happens sometimes. You have a fully developed female, but she won't start menstruating and is infertile. Urban legend has it that Jamie Lee Curtis is one of those cases... she has neither denied nor confirmed.

All the secondary sex characteristics are determined by hormones. As we get old, men lose testosterone and women have less estrogen. The result is that as old people we start looking (and acting) more and more alike.

Hormones are a huge biological component that determines behavior, emotions and sex life. Without testosterone you have no sex drive (even for women). Testosterone levels peaks in males when they are teenagers - remember masturbating 8 times a day, thinking about sex every 15 seconds? Then things started slowing down... sorry, I am making assumptions. Are you male or female?

If you are interested I will be happy to tell you about all the changes that hormones caused for me... if not, I won't bother you with it.

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I really don't care, as long as no new demands are placed on me as a result: I don't want Yet Another List of Words That Cannot Be Spoken, nor do I want to keep track of Yet Another List of Politically Correct References to Sensitive Groups. It's hard enough keeping track of whether "Negro", "Black" or "African American" is the term to use this week, much less educating myself on such things as "Nappy-Headed" (a term I had never heard until the Imus incident, and might easily have used had I seen it once and gotten the definition & context wrong).



I understand. Usually it's not about terms anyway, it's about the attitude behind the words.

Anyway, thank you for your support.

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#245159 - 05/20/07 07:28 PM Re: what to say?
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As long as they don't try to hit on me, I don't have a problem. And I haven't seen Vanessa hitting on anybody here.




Is that a machine gun you are holding in your hands or... am I just imagining things?

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#245160 - 05/20/07 09:52 PM Re: What we lost - JFK
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Perhaps, but your DNA is strictly male, is it not?




It's not always that simple. Sometimes chromosomes do combine in different ways to the standard XX-female and XY-male pairings, and this may be related to gender issues. Someone can appear a normal male but have XXY chromosomes, for example.
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#245161 - 05/21/07 05:07 AM Re: What we lost - JFK
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...I think your all fucked in the head...

well not all of you, but come the fuck on...yes i appologized..but people take this site way to fucking serious...if jamesn was dead he would be rolling in his grave...but since he is not dead I wonder what his responce will be to this whole thread...but hey apperently i am the town idiot's lunch box ((comming from resident nigglet Lou))
so what do i know...


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#245162 - 05/21/07 06:58 PM Re: What we lost - JFK
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Well, if you keep smoking that stuff you probably will have enough permanent brain damage that you will completely lose your ability to form coherent sentences - not that you make much sense right now anyway. What on earth is "resident nigglet Lou"?

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if jamesn was dead he would be rolling in his grave...



Don't even mention his name. He is the worst. Like a combination of Karl Rove and Jack The Ripper... I call him "The Shadow". He will strike when the time is right.

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#245163 - 05/22/07 07:50 AM Re: What we lost - JFK
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What on earth is "resident nigglet Lou"?




here i will break it down for you...Resident...a person who is one of the posters of xpt....nigglet...a small black person usually very smelly and angry at whitey...and lou...i would be refering to lou cypher a stupid piece of shit that like to make shitty posts every once in a while to and cronic cry baby...hey you two would get along fine i bet...

...Jamesn were are you all this talk of feelings and people being hurt by what someone else types on a message bord makes me want to chew on broken glass
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#245164 - 05/22/07 08:50 AM Re: What we lost - JFK
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#245165 - 05/22/07 04:30 PM Re: What we lost - JFK
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i'm blushing



Don't even mention his name. He is the worst. Like a combination of Karl Rove and Jack The Ripper... I call him "The Shadow". He will strike when the time is right.


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#245166 - 06/04/07 04:57 AM Re: what to say?
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I received a private apology letter from PeeterOToole, which is almost miraculous. But, I was teary eyed for an entire day and I am still a little shaken. I am lucky because in real life I never have been harassed, so this is a taste of what it would be like if I was less fortunate. I have one thing in common with a lot of the porn girls, and that is that I had a physically abusive stepfather. So all this triggers a bad and familiar taste in my mouth. It triggers a craving for a strong and kind man to be there to protect me... I'm sure you are familiar with the dysfunctional relationship dynamics that probably a lot of the girls in porn have... Thankfully I am in loving hands, so I am safe. I am proud of who I am, and I am glad that I can be myself, that I can feel alive, even if that means feeling pain. Do you know what I am talking about?



if I had an it for a step child I would abuse it as well.
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#245167 - 06/04/07 06:23 AM Re: what to say?
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yea and put ciggeretts out on it's arm while making it wear girls cloths and clean the house while me and my buddies drank beer....oh the life it could be....
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