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The downtown core is full of sweat shops using illegal Mex labor.
The Valley is full of nail salons that have Vietnamese illegals worrking.
Every freaking Home Depot has a gaggle of illegals standing in front of it trying to make a few bucks.
Do you really think, for even one second, that the INS really honestly can give two shits about a couple of porn chicks sucking dick on camera...documents or not?

Go ahead. Call INS will her address, telephone number and work schedule. You know when they'll actually pay her a visit? It would be long after you've forgotten her name.

On the other hand, since when does Brandon Irons have a problem with Non-US born porn talent? He IS non-US born porn talent.

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I have a number of problems with this post. First of all, the agent doesn't go to jail for 2257 violations. The producer does.

Second, no one knows what the requirements are or whether they were complied with. I don't know immigration law, but I immagine that if you ask for a work visa for modeling they don't ask if you will be sucking cock. Adult entertainment is. A legal business. Denying a work visa to an adult performer raises first amendment questions.

But the big problem I have is suggesting that people in the industry be turned in. This is the second time this poster has accused someone of breaking the law with no proof.

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Moxie, what I said about FastEddie is true and what I said about Derek is also true. I have corroborating evidence which I need not to post on here. Nor do I have burden of proof to prove it.

To get a work visa as a model, you need to prove to the State Deparment. that you are an extraordinary model and you need to show them a portfolio of your works. I don't think these porners can bring a portfolio of their cocksucking images to the US Embassy in their home countries.

Remember that work VISAS are not issued by the INS but is issued by the State Department by the US Embassy in their home country.

If it was that easy to get a work visa as a model, we would have had an invasion of Euro girls from Czech and Hungary here already. We don't!!!

Yes, INS issues H1B visa's but most all other visa's the State Department handles it and INS enforces the visas.

Moxie, are you sure you are a lawyer????

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I was pretty explicit that I'm no expert in Immigration law. You originally asked how she got 2257 ID, which has been explained as some states have lax requirements for ID and will even give ID to illegal aliens. Actually, you asked how Derek got her "citizenship" which is not required under 2257. Now your suggesting that Natalie/ Savanah is in the country illegally. Why change the story? I don't get you motivation but sounds like no one is going to stop you so just call the FBI already.

If you want to talk about an intetresting case though, why not Paola Rey? She was performing, then stopped for close to a year and was exclusively escorting in NY and was constantly on TER. Now she dissapeared from escorting and is back to performing again. I assume it was an ID issue, but I've never heard anything definative. Why does Paola not interest you.

I seem to recall Fast Eddie had some run in with Lisa Ann, who of course is of course in competition with Derek. Lisa. that you?

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Don't some porners marry U.S. citizens to stay here? I'm thinking, e.g., of Rita Faltoyano & Tommy Gunn. Maybe this Natalie Heck person did the same?

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Katja Kassin marrying Sledge Hammer.....

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Even if Natalie Heck married someone, it would take 2 years for her to get a Green Card and nearly 6 months to get a K Visa which would allow her to work.

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I perfectly understand why Lisa had a run in with FastEddie. Because FastEddie is a fraud. He tries to play off he's a legitimate producer of product in order to book girls for his "hobby".

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Actually, I was reffering to the fact that when Lisa Ann was featuring she went nuts if someone asked if she did privavtes. I believe she may have vented at Eddie, but I may have my stories confused.

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I said, LA Direct got an illegitimate US citizenship, resident alien, or ID claiming as such in order for her to shoot porn in the US to fulfill the 2257 requirements that producers have to meet.

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As has been explained, you can get an ID for 2257 purposes without even if illegally in the country.

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Ohhh buddy you are surely wrong. Do you forget who's in office and would like it to make an example out of the porn industry?? The difference between illegals from Mexico, Vietnam or anywhere else working illegally is that it is not SEX related.

BTW I wouldn't report her. I'd report Derek. Derek is the one that continues to do this over and over. Authorities care more about characters like Derek who TRAFFICKS girls in.

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And of course after they arrested only the people that you want them to arrest they would stop looking. Sorry, thats not the way it works. If some illegality was involved, perhaps anyone who hired any foreighn girl would be targeted as well. And perhaps it would go even farther into areas you haven't even considered. Be careful what you wish for, you just might get it.

The thing I don't get is what do you have against Derek that you want to invite a federal investigation of the entire industry?

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as long as shes not a dirty spic I dont care

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It's a moot point now anyway. Apparently our Congress struck a deal today that amounts to amnesty.

Godalmighty...

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So, are those your websites Fuck Whore? Are you a pimp? Perhaps someone should direct the authorities to your activities.People in glass houses.

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As I said Moxie, for a lawyer you say some of the most uneducated things that don't portray you as a lawyer. Maybe that's why you have so much time on your hands to scour this board all day long. Go ahead a report me, as you don't have corroborating evidence nor who I am.

The things I stated have direct links to the people involved.

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interesting read from lib...

Hey Luke, I was just reading Demi Delia’s comments about Derek Hayes and how he is not a pimp. I couldn’t help but laugh. She just took a trip to london with with some other LA Direct Girls

She also recently updated her website to add her "services" fees. She’ll be in NYC at the end of the month. Anyone can book "time" with her.

So add Demi Delia to the very long list of porn performers who escort. Before signing with LADirect, she was available through Pamela Peaks for "Video Work Only".

It used to floor me. I thought because there was a set and lights and a director yelled "action" and "cut", that porn performers weren’t whores, but I guess I was just naive. Not that prostituting is a bad thing, because I will not lie - if I could book her hubby with her, that’s something I would make my fiance buy me.

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interesting read from lib...

Hey Luke, I was just reading Demi Delia’s comments about Derek Hayes and how he is not a pimp. I couldn’t help but laugh. She just took a trip to london with with some other LA Direct Girls

She also recently updated her website to add her "services" fees. She’ll be in NYC at the end of the month. Anyone can book "time" with her.

So add Demi Delia to the very long list of porn performers who escort. Before signing with LADirect, she was available through Pamela Peaks for "Video Work Only".

It used to floor me. I thought because there was a set and lights and a director yelled "action" and "cut", that porn performers weren’t whores, but I guess I was just naive. Not that prostituting is a bad thing, because I will not lie - if I could book her hubby with her, that’s something I would make my fiance buy me.

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Problem with the info is there's no indication that you can book Demi through LA Direct. In fact, you have to book her directly. It floors me that people get upset that performers escort. That fact that I can have my way with these girls doesn't upset me, it makes me happy in my pants.

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interesting read from lib...

Hey Luke, I was just reading Demi Delia’s comments about Derek Hayes and how he is not a pimp. I couldn’t help but laugh. She just took a trip to london with with some other LA Direct Girls

She also recently updated her website to add her "services" fees. She’ll be in NYC at the end of the month. Anyone can book "time" with her.

So add Demi Delia to the very long list of porn performers who escort. Before signing with LADirect, she was available through Pamela Peaks for "Video Work Only".

It used to floor me. I thought because there was a set and lights and a director yelled "action" and "cut", that porn performers weren’t whores, but I guess I was just naive. Not that prostituting is a bad thing, because I will not lie - if I could book her hubby with her, that’s something I would make my fiance buy me.

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Problem with the info is there's no indication that you can book Demi through LA Direct. In fact, you have to book her directly. It floors me that people get upset that performers escort. That fact that I can have my way with these girls doesn't upset me, it makes me happy in my pants.

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1) Every girl that goes to the UK with Derek end up on the same escort site and agency.

2) Every American girl on the UK escort site and agency are also listed on LA Direct's site.

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1) Every girl that goes to the UK with Derek end up on the same escort site and agency.

2) Every American girl on the UK escort site and agency are also listed on LA Direct's site.

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I'm glad somebody is having fun! London is a beautiful city, who wouldn't want to visit?

As far as fuckwhore it concerned, maybe it's time to sign up for another id, if you haven't already done so.

I think you are really crossing a line when you start fabricating false "evidence" to support your various claims.

What is this bs you put up on TheEroticReview? It's been conveniently posted on May 19, 2007 - wait, what's the date today?

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Wow another idiot. Is that your pussy lips moving or are you talking nonsense?

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Wow another idiot. Is that your pussy lips moving or are you talking nonsense?

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Ok, let's see if we can turn this wonderful thread of lies of yours into a discussion about my pussy lips. Can you email me a picture of your penis, maybe I recognize you, I never forget a face...

Actually, I really don't get what your point is here any more. You started off saying you may want to turn in a poor girl to the FBI or Immigration, then it's about immigration laws, document forgery, human trafficking, then it's about turning in LA Direct, then it's about whether performers should escort, should there be working girls, should there be pimps, should there be clients, should there be men, women, trans...?

It would be far more interesting if you would just tell us what your issue really is, maybe then we could sympathize with you. Did somebody do you wrong?

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Still waiting for an answer about why Derick draws your ire. It should hardly surprise you that there are pimps and ho's is the industry.

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What I hate is these whores lie through their teeth about doing it i.e. my comments on Katja.

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What my schtick about this is that I have personal friends that was represented by Derek. I know how he treated them like shit. Threatening to kick them out of his house unless they do whatever he wants. Cashing checks in their names without letting them know, and the list goes on and on.

I would like to see this asshole locked up and the ball has started to roll. It's now a matter of when.

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There are a few "hobbyists" that have booked with Derek directly under the guise of "private movie". Any Joe can call him up and book a girl for a "shoot". They don't check references or credibility.

Ignorance isn't immunity from culpability. Derek and LA Direct can still be prosecuted for pimping. At minimum he can be charged with conspiracy.

The law in California in regards to shooting porn is very clear. A third party pays two individuals to have sex in order to create a commercial product of such shoot. Without having an end commercial product, the act is deemed as prostitution.



What a bullshit statement. Of course LA direct screens companies/producers that they dont know. Are you serious? Do you think he would send girls out into the wild like that? Now you are just making things up.

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It does not need to be for a commercial product to be legal. A private movie would be just as legal as a commerical one. But I don't think Derrick would book girls for phony POV out of business reasons. i.e. a PSE goes for $1500, a POV goes for $1K.

But lets get back to the question that everyone has asked you. Why do care? If Derrick is doing it, I'm sure the other agencies are as well. Why do you care? It porn, not Morgan Stanley, I'm sure you didn't get involved in porn cause you wanted to deal with only the nobleist people.

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Freeman says nothing about it needing to be a movie for commercial distribution. The court viewed Freeman's conviction as "a somewhat transparent attempt at an 'end run' around the First Amendment and the state obscenity laws". Last I heard the First Amendment was an individual right, so it is inherantly permissible to do anything for a private film that you could do for a commercial film.

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Don't tell me they put a cup down without using a coaster? I know that drives Derek absolutely nuts.

I wish I was kidding!

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or wearing your shoes upstairs. lol...apparently he is japanese.