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#244597 - 05/15/07 10:20 PM How did LA Direct get US citizenship for...
fuckwhore Offline
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Natalie Heck aka Savannah Gold. Natalie Heck is a UK porn star and has been in the States hooking for Pamela Peaks for the last month.

Maybe I should call INS and FBI about this.

http://www.ladirectmodels.com/girl.php?girl=Savanah%20Gold

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#244598 - 05/15/07 10:55 PM Re: How did LA Direct get US citizenship for...
JRV Offline
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They probably hired an immigration lawyer. That's what most people do with problem cases. It works fairly well.
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#244599 - 05/15/07 11:03 PM Re: How did LA Direct get US citizenship for...
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They probably hired an immigration lawyer. That's what most people do with problem cases. It works fairly well.




Sorry you can't hire an immigration lawyer to get a green card or US citizenship within a month. Per 2257 requires you need to be a US citizen or permanent alien with a social security card.

You can't get a work visa for porn or prostitution.

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#244600 - 05/15/07 11:12 PM Re: How did LA Direct get US citizenship for...
JRV Offline
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Per 2257 requires you need to be a US citizen or permanent alien with a social security card.

You can't get a work visa for porn or prostitution.



And how do you know she doesn't already have citizenship or permanent residency?

What's your problem here? I don't see anything to get excited about.
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#244601 - 05/15/07 11:17 PM Re: How did LA Direct get US citizenship for...
ChuckSpears Offline
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Registered: 11/01/05
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So what, fuckwhore. Don't be a snitch.

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#244602 - 05/15/07 11:18 PM Re: How did LA Direct get US citizenship for...
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Per 2257 requires you need to be a US citizen or permanent alien with a social security card.

You can't get a work visa for porn or prostitution.



And how do you know she doesn't already have citizenship or permanent residency?

What's your problem here? I don't see anything to get excited about.




Because she is a citizen and resident of the UK. She's visiting here from the UK. What's my problem? Derek pimps his girls on private shows, traffick girls into the US and continues to get away with it.

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#244603 - 05/15/07 11:19 PM Re: How did LA Direct get US citizenship for...
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So what, fuckwhore. Don't be a snitch.




So he can continue strong-arming others in the industry and pimp his girls on privates and traffick girls into the country?

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#244604 - 05/15/07 11:29 PM Re: How did LA Direct get US citizenship for...
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I just looked through 18 USC 2257 and the regulations made pursuant thereto under C.F.R. Part 75 and I can't find anything that says "you need to be a US citizen or permanent alien with a social security card."

If I'm missing something, please let me know.

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#244605 - 05/15/07 11:31 PM Re: How did LA Direct get US citizenship for...
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What's my problem? Derek pimps his girls on private shows, traffick girls into the US and continues to get away with it.




How is that your problem?

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#244606 - 05/15/07 11:31 PM Re: How did LA Direct get US citizenship for...
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So your problem is that pam peak's low-rent hooker is taking hooking jobs away from americans?

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#244607 - 05/15/07 11:32 PM Re: How did LA Direct get US citizenship for...
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What's my problem? Derek pimps his girls on private shows, traffick girls into the US and continues to get away with it.




How is that your problem?




I think he's running a rival operation.

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#244608 - 05/16/07 12:00 AM Re: How did LA Direct get US citizenship for...
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Per 2257 requires you need to be a US citizen or permanent alien with a social security card.

You can't get a work visa for porn or prostitution.



And how do you know she doesn't already have citizenship or permanent residency?

What's your problem here? I don't see anything to get excited about.




Because she is a citizen and resident of the UK. She's visiting here from the UK. What's my problem? Derek pimps his girls on private shows, traffick girls into the US and continues to get away with it.




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#244609 - 05/16/07 12:00 AM Re: How did LA Direct get US citizenship for...
JRV Offline
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I'm trying to decide if it's Brandon Iron again - he was the last one to act like he had a strap-on up his butt over "illegal alien whores" - this at the time he was dating Melissa Lauren.

If she was born in the US then she has US citizenship, even if she's never been here since then. Living and working overseas has nothing to do with US citizenship.
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#244610 - 05/16/07 12:14 AM Re: How did LA Direct get US citizenship for...
Deuce_Bigalow Offline
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So what, fuckwhore. Don't be a snitch.




So he can continue strong-arming others in the industry and pimp his girls on privates and traffick girls into the country?




Dude it's porn, get over it. If Derek didn't do it some other jerk off would. What's your beef with LA Direct? There are far worst companies doing the same thing at least the girls at LA Direct get paid.


The pimp hand is stedy in this one you call Derek.

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#244611 - 05/16/07 01:22 AM Re: How did LA Direct get US citizenship for...
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the best and worst part about this business is what happens when someone is successful. whereas you would expect most people to be happy for you. but instead in this business the more popular/successful you are, the more people backbite and snipe at your heels. you get used to it, but its still strange.

not to be a complete derek apologist, but the man singlehandedly changed the landscape of female and male performers. he pushed the lazy agents out of the business (jim south). he forced people to pay higher rates for performers and made them more money than before. when faced with challenges from new agencies potentially stealing his girls (exotic star, gold star, clear talent, etc.) he went from repping 90 girls to 120! the man simply outworks people. if joel lawrence, lisa ann, or september dawn were offered the chance to represent savannah gold they would jump on it in a second.

is he the nicest guy out there? no. is he sensitive and caring about the problems that sometime arise causing performers to miss shoots? no. is he flexible on his policies and procedures? no. but does he make you more money than anyone else and take care of you in a business sense? definitely yes.
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#244612 - 05/16/07 02:05 AM Re: How did LA Direct get US citizenship for...
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Firstly, I'm pretty sure Natalie Heck/Savannah Gold is not a prior US Citizen (unlike, say, Renee Richards, who has an American father and maintains dual citizenship).

Secondly, and more importantly, is the fact that there are a number of parties back in the UK that would like to catch up with Ms. Heck. As I understand it, she violated her exclusive contract with Bluebird, and there is legal action pending (I believe this may also have precipitated her name change...she had just won BGAFD's 'Performer of the Year' award as Natalie Heck, so why ditch the momentum and name recognition she had already built?). I have also had a number of sources confirm to me that she allegedly attacked fellow UK porn starlet Antonia Stokes with a bottle, cutting her head open. I believe there are also criminal charges stemming from this incident. So you can see why it would make sense for her to go to America and stay there as long as possible, and if she can get US Citizenship (by hook or crook), then all the better.

Getting on to Derek/LADirect...I have no love for the man, (in fact, quite the opposite, as he is a Spurs fan ), but the simple fact of the matter is put up or shut up, bitches. His competitors need to look at their own agencies and see what they can do better. Maybe he is as much of an arsehole as people say, but that doesn't stop people booking through him.

I think, as Christian points out, it's all about the way he does his business, because I don't think LA Direct's current roster is much to write home about (90% of the standout girls are already under contract of some sort), and a producer could quite easily get by just booking talent from the myriad other agencies out there...but the overwhelming fact is that by and large they don't.

Frankly, the UK 'industry' could do with a Derek Hay-type over here...

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#244613 - 05/16/07 03:28 AM Re: How did LA Direct get US citizenship for...
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I am not a competitor with Derek. But let's keep the playing field level for all and keep activities legal. If I am a snitch then let it be so. In capitalism, there are some that succeed by breaking the rules but in the end they all get brought down. Look at corporate America the last several years.


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#244614 - 05/16/07 03:32 AM Re: How did LA Direct get US citizenship for...
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Although I am not a direct competitor with Derek, someone that is should turn his ass in. Or better, a director/producer for what he has done to the market. Like Christian said, Derek singlehandedly raised the rates for girls across the board. Including girls that don't deserve those rates but in an industry always looking for fresh meat producers pay it.

As sales diminish, talent rates continue to rise disproportionately to sales. Derek is no different then the UAW. While helping the talent, he hurts the rest of the industry with his other hand.

Now let's cut off both his hands and see where the industry ends up. I think for the better. Rates for girls will lower and producers will make a tiny profit to continue booking this girls so they won't have to turn to hooking because less and less producers can afford to shoot them. This is a win-win for talent and producers.

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#244615 - 05/16/07 04:07 AM Re: How did LA Direct get US citizenship for...
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Although I am not a direct competitor with Derek, someone that is should turn his ass in. Or better, a director/producer for what he has done to the market. Like Christian said, Derek singlehandedly raised the rates for girls across the board. Including girls that don't deserve those rates but in an industry always looking for fresh meat producers pay it.




'Deserve' is neither here nor there...if producers feel a girl is worth her asking price, they'll pay it, if they don't, then they won't.

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As sales diminish, talent rates continue to rise disproportionately to sales. Derek is no different then the UAW. While helping the talent, he hurts the rest of the industry with his other hand.




This is the point I have been making in the 'Porn Economics part 3' thread. By having standardised, across the board rates, some girls will invariably be underpaid, some will invariably be overpaid. If producers start to embrace VOD/Pay Per Scene technology, then they'll get a much clearer picture of who sells and who doesn't, and alter individual rates/offers accordingly...thus weeding out the coattail riders. Joe Actor doesn't get the same amount of money as Tom Cruise, and there's a reason for that...because the Cruiser brings in more money than Joe Actor. I don't see why this shouldn't be the same in porn.

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Now let's cut off both his hands and see where the industry ends up. I think for the better. Rates for girls will lower and producers will make a tiny profit to continue booking this girls so they won't have to turn to hooking because less and less producers can afford to shoot them. This is a win-win for talent and producers.




Personally, I'm all for higher talent rates...the cream of the crop should be rewarded accordingly. See my Aria Giovanni example in the Porn Economics thread and tell me if it's better that she should make something like $2 million off of 20 or so scenes rather than $20,000.

If top of the line girls start making that sort of money, I think you'll see the overall quality of talent coming in to the biz shoot way up. And that can only be a good thing for everybody...

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#244616 - 05/16/07 06:24 AM Re: How did LA Direct get US citizenship for...
Moxie Offline
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I have a number of problems with this post. First of all, the agent doesn't go to jail for 2257 violations. The producer does.

Second, no one knows what the requirements are or whether they were complied with. I don't know immigration law, but I immagine that if you ask for a work visa for modeling they don't ask if you will be sucking cock. Adult entertainment is. A legal business. Denying a work visa to an adult performer raises first amendment questions.

But the big problem I have is suggesting that people in the industry be turned in. This is the second time this poster has accused someone of breaking the law with no proof.
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#244617 - 05/16/07 06:37 AM Re: How did LA Direct get US citizenship for...
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Yea Seriously Fuckwhore...Moxie and Myself don't agree on much but your being a total butt plugg about this...Unless you have proof...and actually know what the fuck you are talking about don't sit thier and accuse people of shit...I meen its real easy to do watch...


....Hey everybody that fuck whore guy....yea he is a pedderass....seriously he is...like i dont' understand it but he gets off exposing himself to 6 year olds....yea no i know its a shame...

No see how easy that was I just heard thats how you were...i don't need any proof...

If you wanna talk about someone breaking rules to get ahead...don't worry about LA Direct...seriously Bush has been doing it for the last 6 years or so....

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#244618 - 05/16/07 07:07 AM Re: How did LA Direct get US citizenship for...
jamesn Offline
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i've raised some very similar questions to fuckwhore about visas in general and if the INS ever wanted to bag some of these chicks they easily could.

pre-911 when i was in college i spent a summer as a paralegal at my friend's dad's immigration firm and i'm familiar enough with the ways to get a non-resident employment authorization to call bullshit. and this is based on pre-9/11 procedure.

first-the ins is slow.

second-there are really only a few foolproof ways to get one of the visas that allows you to work more than a handful of months and to get one you want to be one of the following OR their spouse of child:

-an employer saying you're going to be working for them for the entire duration and they couldn't find an american with the skills to do your job.

-to be enrolled as a post-secondary student with proof of it.

-you're internationally a person of note in the sciences, academia, entertainment or athletics. we want you in america if you've got a nobel or you're david beckham.

-you're a religious worker

-you're a refugee from a recognized-area

-you're a longshoreman or certain kind of agricultural-worker.

the other thing is the PREVAILING WAGE-the INS doesn't want people hiring non-residents because they can pay them half of what they could find an american to do. so you need to figure out what the job title of the applicant is and make sure the salary is within x-percent of the wage-data for it. is there wage-data for pornstars?


listen, i'm sure there IS a way to get a visa for a pornstar.
it wouldn't be cheap though and it'd require a rather burdensome amount of work collecting the stuff to even apply.
and the INS moved SLOW. we'd send an H1B to their notheast office in VT overnight then forget about it for over a month before they'd even raise questions about it.

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#244619 - 05/16/07 07:16 AM Re: How did LA Direct get US citizenship for...
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Jamesn is right about how INS works.

To comply with 2257, a producer needs to check for either a US-issued ID (including state-issued) or a foreign passport with work clearance. It doesn't take much beyond showing proof of residence to get a driver's license/state id in some states. It's easy to fraud the DMV.

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#244620 - 05/16/07 07:23 AM Re: How did LA Direct get US citizenship for...
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Don't some porners marry U.S. citizens to stay here? I'm thinking, e.g., of Rita Faltoyano & Tommy Gunn. Maybe this Natalie Heck person did the same?
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#244621 - 05/16/07 07:31 AM Re: How did LA Direct get US citizenship for...
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Don't some porners marry U.S. citizens to stay here? I'm thinking, e.g., of Rita Faltoyano & Tommy Gunn. Maybe this Natalie Heck person did the same?




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#244622 - 05/16/07 08:57 AM Re: How did LA Direct get US citizenship for...
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It doesn't take much beyond showing proof of residence to get a driver's license/state id in some states. It's easy to fraud the DMV.





There are states,like Oregon, where its relatively easy to get a US ID. I think it only requires showing a lease with your name on it to prove residency in order to get a state license. Something like that could make it easy for terrorists to get state issued IDs and remain in the country after VISAs expire.

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#244623 - 05/16/07 09:08 AM Re: How did LA Direct get US citizenship for...
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#244624 - 05/16/07 09:24 AM Re: How did LA Direct get US citizenship for...
Willie D Offline

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Martin del Taco/Hailey Paige, anyone? Whatever happened to the huge troop of porno people who were going to drum this douchebag (del Taco) back to Hungary?

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#244625 - 05/16/07 09:33 AM Re: How did LA Direct get US citizenship for...
Moxie Offline
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Martin del Taco/Hailey Paige, anyone? Whatever happened to the huge troop of porno people who were going to drum this douchebag (del Taco) back to Hungary?




There was slighly more meat on the bones of that claim. This is more like "I have no idea what they did, but report them." Which of course would bring 2257 inspections for every producer that has used Natalie Heck.
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#244626 - 05/16/07 09:54 AM Re: How did LA Direct get US citizenship for...
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the reason girls/guys marry US Citizens isnt for the ID, its for the SS number you need to work for porn companies that use payroll companies (vivid, naughty america, clubjenna, etc etc etc.) the people who just pay people out of bank accounts only need a ID card.
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#244627 - 05/16/07 10:44 AM Re: How did LA Direct get US citizenship for...
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The better question is how did Derek Hay get US citizenship for himself, or is he here on a visa or is he a resident alien? If he's not a U.S, citizen how it possible to run a business here and who let this brit bi boi dictate whore rates in porn valley?

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#244628 - 05/16/07 11:48 AM Re: How did LA Direct get US citizenship for...
fuckwhore Offline
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Registered: 02/18/07
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I have a number of problems with this post. First of all, the agent doesn't go to jail for 2257 violations. The producer does.

Second, no one knows what the requirements are or whether they were complied with. I don't know immigration law, but I immagine that if you ask for a work visa for modeling they don't ask if you will be sucking cock. Adult entertainment is. A legal business. Denying a work visa to an adult performer raises first amendment questions.

But the big problem I have is suggesting that people in the industry be turned in. This is the second time this poster has accused someone of breaking the law with no proof.





Moxie, what I said about FastEddie is true and what I said about Derek is also true. I have corroborating evidence which I need not to post on here. Nor do I have burden of proof to prove it.

To get a work visa as a model, you need to prove to the State Deparment. that you are an extraordinary model and you need to show them a portfolio of your works. I don't think these porners can bring a portfolio of their cocksucking images to the US Embassy in their home countries.

Remember that work VISAS are not issued by the INS but is issued by the State Department by the US Embassy in their home country.

If it was that easy to get a work visa as a model, we would have had an invasion of Euro girls from Czech and Hungary here already. We don't!!!

Yes, INS issues H1B visa's but most all other visa's the State Department handles it and INS enforces the visas.

Moxie, are you sure you are a lawyer????


Edited by fuckwhore (05/16/07 11:51 AM)

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#244629 - 05/16/07 11:56 AM Re: How did LA Direct get US citizenship for...
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Yea Seriously Fuckwhore...Moxie and Myself don't agree on much but your being a total butt plugg about this...Unless you have proof...and actually know what the fuck you are talking about don't sit thier and accuse people of shit...I meen its real easy to do watch...


....Hey everybody that fuck whore guy....yea he is a pedderass....seriously he is...like i dont' understand it but he gets off exposing himself to 6 year olds....yea no i know its a shame...

No see how easy that was I just heard thats how you were...i don't need any proof...

If you wanna talk about someone breaking rules to get ahead...don't worry about LA Direct...seriously Bush has been doing it for the last 6 years or so....






To accuse someone of being a pedophile is completely different then someone being illegally in the country. Logically, without pointing to evidence, if Natalie Heck entered the US legally with the ability to work, why didn't she start working as a pornstar immediately upon entering. Instead she worked as a prostitute until LA Direct miraculously got her an ID for her to work. Then only did she start booking for films about a month after she got here.

Obviously it took her a MONTH to get those phony documents.

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#244630 - 05/16/07 12:03 PM Re: How did LA Direct get US citizenship for...
fuckwhore Offline
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Registered: 02/18/07
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on luke...

Derek Hayes says: "She is a former Bluebird contract girl, though out of contract now, but she is here with their blessing in any case."

Interesting how Derek would address Luke about the Bluebird contract issue but not address the visa and immigration issue. Because he knows he would be putting his foot in his mouth if he falsely said in a public statement that she has all her legal paperwork and has legal status.

If the INS and FBI investigated him for this, he knowingly and fraudulently purported this scheme.

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#244631 - 05/16/07 12:06 PM Re: How did LA Direct get US citizenship for...
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#244632 - 05/16/07 12:19 PM Re: How did LA Direct get US citizenship for...
Moxie Offline
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Posts: 1557
Loc: New York
Quote:

Quote:

I have a number of problems with this post. First of all, the agent doesn't go to jail for 2257 violations. The producer does.

Second, no one knows what the requirements are or whether they were complied with. I don't know immigration law, but I immagine that if you ask for a work visa for modeling they don't ask if you will be sucking cock. Adult entertainment is. A legal business. Denying a work visa to an adult performer raises first amendment questions.

But the big problem I have is suggesting that people in the industry be turned in. This is the second time this poster has accused someone of breaking the law with no proof.





Moxie, what I said about FastEddie is true and what I said about Derek is also true. I have corroborating evidence which I need not to post on here. Nor do I have burden of proof to prove it.

To get a work visa as a model, you need to prove to the State Deparment. that you are an extraordinary model and you need to show them a portfolio of your works. I don't think these porners can bring a portfolio of their cocksucking images to the US Embassy in their home countries.

Remember that work VISAS are not issued by the INS but is issued by the State Department by the US Embassy in their home country.

If it was that easy to get a work visa as a model, we would have had an invasion of Euro girls from Czech and Hungary here already. We don't!!!

Yes, INS issues H1B visa's but most all other visa's the State Department handles it and INS enforces the visas.

Moxie, are you sure you are a lawyer????




I was pretty explicit that I'm no expert in Immigration law. You originally asked how she got 2257 ID, which has been explained as some states have lax requirements for ID and will even give ID to illegal aliens. Actually, you asked how Derek got her "citizenship" which is not required under 2257. Now your suggesting that Natalie/ Savanah is in the country illegally. Why change the story? I don't get you motivation but sounds like no one is going to stop you so just call the FBI already.

If you want to talk about an intetresting case though, why not Paola Rey? She was performing, then stopped for close to a year and was exclusively escorting in NY and was constantly on TER. Now she dissapeared from escorting and is back to performing again. I assume it was an ID issue, but I've never heard anything definative. Why does Paola not interest you.

I seem to recall Fast Eddie had some run in with Lisa Ann, who of course is of course in competition with Derek. Lisa. that you?



Edited by Moxie (05/16/07 12:30 PM)
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#244633 - 05/16/07 02:10 PM Re: How did LA Direct get US citizenship for...
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But the big problem I have is suggesting that people in the industry be turned in. This is the second time this poster has accused someone of breaking the law with no proof.





I agree with that. It would seem the kind of thing a rival girl would wish upon another for motives of personal vengeance.

Immigration law does not require citizenship for work. In order to get a work visa the model would have to demonstrate certain professional merits. If the model was published and/or acted in movies she could qualify for a work visa. Or, if she has a US fiancée or is married to a US citizen, that would make her legit too...

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#244634 - 05/16/07 02:12 PM Re: How did LA Direct get US citizenship for...
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Maybe she just came in on a 90 day Visa Waiver from England?
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#244635 - 05/16/07 02:15 PM Re: How did LA Direct get US citizenship for...
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On the other hand... prostitution is never legal and as far as Immigration is concerned reason for deportation and denial of future entry...

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#244636 - 05/16/07 03:15 PM Re: How did LA Direct get US citizenship for...
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Oh....fuck it, nevermind


Edited by jack_schitt (05/16/07 03:35 PM)
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#244637 - 05/16/07 04:14 PM Re: How did LA Direct get US citizenship for...
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Fuckwhore, are these not your websites:

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www.blackbookdate.com


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#244638 - 05/16/07 05:13 PM Re: How did LA Direct get US citizenship for...
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Fuckwhore, are these not your websites:

www.affluentconcierge.com
www.blackbookdate.com





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#244639 - 05/16/07 05:31 PM Re: How did LA Direct get US citizenship for...
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I have a number of problems with this post. First of all, the agent doesn't go to jail for 2257 violations. The producer does.

Second, no one knows what the requirements are or whether they were complied with. I don't know immigration law, but I immagine that if you ask for a work visa for modeling they don't ask if you will be sucking cock. Adult entertainment is. A legal business. Denying a work visa to an adult performer raises first amendment questions.

But the big problem I have is suggesting that people in the industry be turned in. This is the second time this poster has accused someone of breaking the law with no proof.





Moxie, what I said about FastEddie is true and what I said about Derek is also true. I have corroborating evidence which I need not to post on here. Nor do I have burden of proof to prove it.

To get a work visa as a model, you need to prove to the State Deparment. that you are an extraordinary model and you need to show them a portfolio of your works. I don't think these porners can bring a portfolio of their cocksucking images to the US Embassy in their home countries.

Remember that work VISAS are not issued by the INS but is issued by the State Department by the US Embassy in their home country.

If it was that easy to get a work visa as a model, we would have had an invasion of Euro girls from Czech and Hungary here already. We don't!!!

Yes, INS issues H1B visa's but most all other visa's the State Department handles it and INS enforces the visas.

Moxie, are you sure you are a lawyer????




I was pretty explicit that I'm no expert in Immigration law. You originally asked how she got 2257 ID, which has been explained as some states have lax requirements for ID and will even give ID to illegal aliens. Actually, you asked how Derek got her "citizenship" which is not required under 2257. Now your suggesting that Natalie/ Savanah is in the country illegally. Why change the story? I don't get you motivation but sounds like no one is going to stop you so just call the FBI already.

If you want to talk about an intetresting case though, why not Paola Rey? She was performing, then stopped for close to a year and was exclusively escorting in NY and was constantly on TER. Now she dissapeared from escorting and is back to performing again. I assume it was an ID issue, but I've never heard anything definative. Why does Paola not interest you.

I seem to recall Fast Eddie had some run in with Lisa Ann, who of course is of course in competition with Derek. Lisa. that you?






Natalie may be on a tourist visa but if she works while she is here she is violating her visa conditions. Which deems her as illegally being in the US. I'm not changing my story.

As in the case of Paola Rey, she started shooting again after gaining fake IDS. And guess which agency she started working for?? LA Direct. Do you see a pattern?

Without LA Direct, these girls are incapable of gaining these fakes documents to allow them to work and for Derek to profit from.

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#244640 - 05/16/07 05:33 PM Re: How did LA Direct get US citizenship for...
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I think the INS has some far bigger fish to fry than porn whores.
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#244641 - 05/16/07 05:33 PM Re: How did LA Direct get US citizenship for...
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Natalie may be on a tourist visa but if she works while she is here she is violating her visa conditions. Which deems her as illegally being in the US. I'm not changing my story.

As in the case of Paola Rey, she started shooting again after gaining fake IDS. And guess which agency she started working for?? LA Direct. Do you see a pattern?

Without LA Direct, these girls are incapable of gaining these fakes documents to allow them to work and for Derek to profit from.





But why are you getting so worked up about it? You're getting like Alberto Gonzales here.

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#244642 - 05/16/07 05:34 PM Re: How did LA Direct get US citizenship for...
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Maybe she just came in on a 90 day Visa Waiver from England?




She probably did. More likely than not. But by working while she is in the US violates the Visa Waiver agreement. Thus she will be deported and barred of future visits to the US for up to ten years.

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#244643 - 05/16/07 09:42 PM Re: How did LA Direct get US citizenship for...
vanessa Offline
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Fuckwhore, you started off claiming LA Direct got US citizenship for its model, and now you are down to claiming that maybe she is here on a visa waiver?

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#244644 - 05/16/07 09:45 PM Re: How did LA Direct get US citizenship for...
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#244645 - 05/16/07 10:02 PM Re: How did LA Direct get US citizenship for...
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The downtown core is full of sweat shops using illegal Mex labor.
The Valley is full of nail salons that have Vietnamese illegals worrking.
Every freaking Home Depot has a gaggle of illegals standing in front of it trying to make a few bucks.
Do you really think, for even one second, that the INS really honestly can give two shits about a couple of porn chicks sucking dick on camera...documents or not?

Go ahead. Call INS will her address, telephone number and work schedule. You know when they'll actually pay her a visit? It would be long after you've forgotten her name.

On the other hand, since when does Brandon Irons have a problem with Non-US born porn talent? He IS non-US born porn talent.
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#244646 - 05/16/07 11:01 PM Re: How did LA Direct get US citizenship for...
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Fuckwhore, you started off claiming LA Direct got US citizenship for its model, and now you are down to claiming that maybe she is here on a visa waiver?




I said, LA Direct got an illegitimate US citizenship, resident alien, or ID claiming as such in order for her to shoot porn in the US to fulfill the 2257 requirements that producers have to meet.

But in all reality, she is here on the US Visa Waiver program for UK citizens. But because she is WORKING while she is here on the visa waiver she is in the US illegally and can be subject to deportation and barring from ever coming back to the US.

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