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#241959 - 05/03/07 10:54 PM
XPT 'John' poll
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Porn Jesus
Registered: 03/22/06
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XPT has at their disposal two of the most experienced 'johns' in current history(j/k). I've never used a hooker/pros/escort/gfe so the subject is pretty fascinating to me. From what I've read Moxie tends to prefer the 18 year old "porn" girl turned escort. Da Burglar seems to enjoy the lower profile private yet "high end" escort most of us would never know about. Both gentlemen are considerably affluent with excessive discretionary monies. So, just for fun let's fire up a couple polls.
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#241960 - 05/03/07 10:56 PM
Re: XPT 'John' poll
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Porn Jesus
Registered: 03/22/06
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#241961 - 05/03/07 11:03 PM
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Porn Jesus
Registered: 09/07/05
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I say Burglar, but Moxie's trumped him in the Captain Save a Ho catagory.
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Any of you guys purchased PopWhore yet? What's her deal? I picture her putting spinners on an Eames chair for Burg and call it Design Within Reach Around.
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#241962 - 05/03/07 11:11 PM
Re: XPT 'John' poll
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Porn Jesus
Registered: 03/22/06
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nice. i've always dug popwhore. she's pretty cute, but damn she needs to hit the elliptical or cut down on the carbs.
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#241963 - 05/03/07 11:13 PM
Re: XPT 'John' poll
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Porn Jesus
Registered: 03/22/06
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#241964 - 05/03/07 11:15 PM
Re: XPT 'John' poll
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Porn Jesus
Registered: 03/22/06
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btw, i'm not busting your guys stones about this. you've both always been open and generous with your opinions/stories about escorts etc. i'm just fuckin around.
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#241965 - 05/04/07 04:08 AM
Re: XPT 'John' poll
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Porn Fucking Master
Registered: 05/18/06
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nice. i've always dug popwhore. she's pretty cute, but damn she needs to hit the elliptical or cut down on the carbs.
two things about PopWhore: there's a trailer of her doing ryan knox on her site, plus she wears waaaay too much orange-y blush for someone trying to pass herself off as high class. i dig her "fan fuck fridays" concept, tho.
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#241966 - 05/04/07 05:01 AM
Re: XPT 'John' poll
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Porn Jesus
Registered: 01/02/05
Posts: 5750
Loc: ATLANTIC CITY
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btw, i'm not busting your guys stones about this. you've both always been open and generous with your opinions/stories about escorts etc. i'm just fuckin around.
Awesome thread King. Feel free to bust my (kidney) stones anytime. It's late, and my health is making it difficult to sleep. This thread, like XPT in general, is therapeutically distractive. I will just start blurting out random-yet-relevant points:
(1) First, XPT, and the people here who I have come to regard as a group of online peers with whom I can share shit that I normally cant share with my other clicques and social circles, is an ideal place to talk about paying for sex (and, at least in my case, paying for somethings 'extra', like a full weekend of activity and interaction, sometimes even with NO sex. Yes, I have actually paid certain truly unique and special women for the privilege of having them accompany to a function, or just to hang out and talk my ear/hearing aid off for a weekend in Vancouver or Reno or San Jose.) More on that later...
Smart, funny, wise, yet also savvy, humane and even brutal dudes like Willie, Jamesn, Bornyo, Floof, Have2cit, the Agent-UFC Warrior-Club_da_burglar_bodyguard formerly known as CHICO T, Soopergriz and even XPT's owner Jeffrey S. ... and less hardboiled but still randy dudes like Guapo (miss that wigga), Windsock-CAOH...and cool, HOTT, edgy-yet-still feminine and sweet chicks like Ceara, Gia, Holly and (depending on what day it is) Gen....All these people have been willing to cut me slack and accept, even encourage or support, the fact that given my circunstances, as well as my means, personality and priorities in life...paying for companionship in my situation, and sharing my experiences and anecdotes in an appropriate, humorous, self-effacing and non-pervy way, is ok for the board and the XPT community. I am very appreciative of this...
Now, here are some more generalities:
AT this juncture of my life and means, I typically stick with Women who are in the 30 to 40 year old range, and who I have met through a previous escort/call girl. I always have 2 or 3 warmup dates (short non sex encounters involving tea at Barnes and Noble where we both discuss a book we recently read, or something that caught our eye that we'd like to read.) If this seems weird, trust me, it is NOT, and is well worth the time and effort, because it makes the BIG encounter so much better since you are now used to each other, comfortable (hopefully) and, of course, if you are NOT right for each other, you have figured that out BEFORE you are both sitting on the waterbed in a Suite at the Mandarin Oriental (or heck, even the Holiday Inn) and you are half undressed and she tells you she doesnt let you cum on her face or tits....! It also helps me to screen for the most important quality in women I pay to hang with (aside from basic above average "hottness")...intelligence.
Typically, I wil lpay around 500 bucks for this non sex warmup encounter, which, depending on how we are clicking and how she feels about me, and our schedules, lasts for about 90 minutes to 2 hours. Twice, I can recall the attraction and horniness being of such a level and of such IMMEDIATE effect that I plunked 1500 down on top of the warmup fee and headed straight for the nearest Hotel (or in one case, MOTEL, Super 8! Now that was fucking hott and sleazy... a red headed former San Diego State English Professor named "Robin" who insisted on tantalizing me with her 38DD boobs while sitting in Blackies Pub in Newport Beach having a beer, supposedly on a warm up date! She was a total fucking pro, and/or I guess she needed the CASH like NOW, but she was indeed one of the hottest chicks I ever met in this situation or circumstance...she wheeled me out the door, into her BMW 740i and up the Boulevard onto PCH. WHile looking for a place, she said, "I dont exactly need room service or robes, do you?", while massaging my crotch, lol. Hello Super 8 Motel, thank my friggin frosted lucky charms we found it before I splooged in my Yale Genton slacks. During the following 2-1/2 hours of total FUN, I titfucked her twice and had a sloppy blowjob, all for the bargain price of 1500 bucks. I never saw Robin Again, despite sending her 450 bucks of "Stuff" from Bath and Body works as a tip/gift since I didnt have anymore cash in the Super 8 room given our unexpected and impromptu splooge fest. Notice too, that I Did not fuck her, vaginally or Anally. More often than NOT, even with the women I am VERY familiar with and whom a level of trust exists (supported or not by recent blood tests) in respect to STDs, I rarely actually engage in Full intercourse with escorts and professional whores. A few times they have actually ASKED me to do it (or allow them to do it...80% of Burglar's intercourse has the woman on top), but for the most part, my encounters are strictly Oral and manual affairs (again, IF there is SEX at all!)
Other random thoughts and blurbs: The most I ever spent in a stripclub? Honestly, I actually dont know EXACTLY since they involved high levels of intoxication, so I will seperate this into two categories, a Strip Club Excursion (no booze or limited alcohol)...and a stripclub jaunt with Booze flowing into all my orifices except my ass.
(NO BOOZE or limited Booze...except for the lady, she drinks whatever and however much she wants...  )
On a number of occasions since 1996, I've blown around 4000 to 4500...if caught going beyond spending that amount and you get into "creepy land" or coming off as dumb, desperate and pathetic. Of course, this 4500 did include a crapload of food on a couple of occasions, as well as tons and tons of booze for most of the girls (I always buy a couple of rounds for the girls if I am having one of my Kick ass Evenings and not drinking myself.) Whores get hungry shaking their booties for cash, and especially if they have been smoking pot and popping xanax, they get the munchies. I always like Strippers who are wired, they have no desire for food. But As Baby Gia will attest, the new generation(s) of Mega-stripclubs (like Treasures, Sapphire and Jaguars in Vegas) come complete with "supposedly" gourmet menus...not that this wasnt available before at many clubs throughout the country, but these days, the whores ENCOURAGE you to buy a steak instead of just drinks! It is actually a part of the marketing focus... But I am not down with this arrangement. I am not going to try and eat a T-bone in front of a couple hot chicks while also trying to oogle other girls and even get some lap dances. MAYBE, and I mean MAYBE, if I meet the right girl and she is hungry too, I might share a meal with her...that would be kinda hott. One time, I had a MILF type stripper who resembled Rayveness spoon feed me my shrimp cocktail at the Crazy Horse Too in Vegas back when they served food like that.
(Timeout Question For Baby Gia: What did you think of the food at the places like Treasures and Sapphire and Jaguars?)
In certain Cities, and certain clubs (like a couple here in the SF Bay Area) I have friends who are Strippers AND also Private Escorts with me (and a handful of other clients...this is the BEST of both worlds!) You meet a HOTT chick in a stripclub, who uses her stripping job to meet and screen potential clients, screening them for a number of things, money and generosity being obvious, but also personality, what the guy is "into" and his general countenance and demeanor. I like this set up too because it allows ME to do exactly the same thing the stripper/escort is doing, getting to know her while also having a good time in a stripclub setting and atmosphere. Personally, I like getting all worked up in a vip booth, and then arranging for the following night a "date". Vegas is great for this type of encounter given its logistics and proximity and general pace and layout. Be advised however, this will cost YOU ... you will have to pay for the stripclub session, and pay well cuz you dont want to seem cheap, but hopefully you make up for it the next night by plowing the whore into the headboard after getting so worked up...you will go off like Peter North in this situation. This is good for your basic, Hott, nasty, porno type sexual release.
Now, once, at the Crazy Horse Too in Vegas, I blew around 8 grand, simply because I was totally obliterated...blackout drunk. I know for a fact that one snaggle toothed Asian Whore helped herself to 1200 bucks out of my Pocket so the final tally must be weighed against that incident. But normally, when I am going to be drinking heavily in a strip club, I am usually accompanied by an "attendant". Some might call him a Bodyguard, but that is not the case...he is not armed nor will he take a bullet for me. He will take a punch however, and give one too. "Jamal" and "Mohammed" my driver are not entirely Fictitious, just obscured for privacy. I might take someone like Chico Travieso and offer him a few bucks and some "Herbal Supplements" to "keep and eye on me" during the evening. This includes making sure a whore doesnt stick her hand in my pocket as I pass out. I really try not to drink anymore in general, especially in stripclubs.
As far as spending on actually encounters with escorts and call girls, it is a WIDE and variegated spectrum of experiences and costs. It all depends on what you want, how long and with whom. For now, to summarize, I have spent as much as 5 grand (plus tip) for a night with a top of the line, Model caliber escort, and in the case of several women who I have seen for a long time (3 years or more), and wherein we have a mutual "friendship/attraction/recognized benefit" within the context of our relationship and this type of intimate encounter, we have a agreement of a fee of 3000 for a night (which of course I enhance with the basic ammenities like Dinner, eithe rme cooking or going out, plus some extra benefits or even the occasional gift (like Jewelry, but this is the EXCEPTION mind you and typically, to avoid creepiness, does not exceed 800 to 1000 in retail value.)
If I am just horny and want a "da burglar version of a quickie", I will go for 2-2/12 hours for 1500 bucks with a couple women who are ideal for that type of encounter. Typically the ones I have ONLY sex with are also the damaged ones, either on drugs (but not trainwrecks YET, they are functional addicts still retaining a certain hottness and appeal  x 10!! ) For women I spend the night, or weekend with, it is more than sex I am interetsed in them for...For a weekend (Friday Lunch through Monday Breakfast) I generally pay around 10 grand. However, this is at MOST a once a month occurence, usually every couple of months in frequency....
I have a lot more to say, spill and share. I hope everyone finds this amusing, interesting, informtive and even helpful. I will gladly answer any questions
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#241967 - 05/04/07 05:49 AM
Re: XPT 'John' poll
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Porn Jesus
Registered: 01/02/05
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I say Burglar, but Moxie's trumped him in the Captain Save a Ho catagory.
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Any of you guys purchased PopWhore yet? What's her deal? I picture her putting spinners on an Eames chair for Burg and call it Design Within Reach Around.
Fuckin' Baby Gia, truly a one of a kind class act... 
Gia merits her own reply(ies) and side thread in this overall thread. First, the Eames chair quote/concept is classic Gia....thank you my dear for making me laugh heartily on so many levels and fronts. And no i have not purchased Popwhore yet, I am still trying to find this ephemeral "leisure class" she dromes on and on about while getting splooged upon by the likes of Ryan "Definitely NOT in the Leisure Class" Knocks...
I often wanted to collaborate with Baby G on a book about strip clubs. The whole gamut, from proper etiquette to do's and don'ts, to techniques (like how to ALWAYS get the customer to splooge in his pants SUBTLY, emabarrass the shit out of him and extract a hefty tip, all the while GUARANTEEING he will be back for more based on what she SAYS to him!), and getting the $$most$$ out of your experience (both customer and stripper, cuz I feel between us we have a lot of overlooked insight). Gia has a solid grounding in customer service, and is genuinely concerned snd conscientious with doing a good job no matter what she does, and in making sure her customers are satisfied. She has dropped hints to that effect in many of her posts, AND even with her website, which she herself scoffs at as being the product of her "laziness", you can see her focus on marketing and customer satisfaction (which in the case of her porn and career, means making it easy for her fans to splooge as much and often as possible. "Throughput", the business concept of whatever you do or produce, make it as streamlined and easy as possible.) If she and I ever put together such a book, I KNOW it would be a hit. There' another XPT Vixen whom I want to collaborate with on a Book, but I fear she is being swallowed up by other ventures and wont have time for little ol' me. 
But as for Gia, there is something profound I feel compelled to say, and at the risk of emabarrassing her or myself, let me just say I mean this as the most OBJECTIVE compliment possible, even though I have pissed Gia off in the past and treated her kinda crappily. All I can do is hope she is as forgiving as she is sharp and hott. ALL THE XPT Gang loves Gia, much Like Holly Randall.
In the subject of Escorts, I have stated that I would never pay the seemingly absurd and ridiculous rates that certain pornstars charge for "Sterile" 1-2 hour fan fuck encounters. Not my style and I am not interested. However, the only Pornstar I would (and did, ever so briefly when she first joined XPT, from a fantasy point of view) consider as a potential escort-type "date" was in fact baby Gia.
I pictured her in something like (for our first time/date) a non-sex (more or less) 4-5 day jaunt back home to New England, where she would be my date to a Marketing Convention where I was one of the Speakers. I'd book first class on a Redeye flight out of John Wayne in Orange County, but earlier in the day before the flight, I'd have her come down to Fashion Island in Newport Bay and pick out her wardrobe (or some of it anyway, we'd only have a couple hours) for the 2 day event marketing plus an extra day for sight seeing (like going to visit Jamesn in Cambridge and I KNOW Gia would have to dress up for that...In fact I envision me probably leaving Gia at Jamesn's mansion in a scene straight out of Pretty in Pink, except we are both wealthy and neither of us has pink hair or Jon Cryer's Nose.)
Towards the end of the trip, if I was Horny, and if GIA was overall PLEASED with the whole experience and enjoyed herself, I might offer up a $500 tip (or gucci bags?) in exchange for one (1) patented GIA JORDAN act of cum gobbling. I'd have to figure out what made Gia more horny though in order for her to be willing to gobble...would it be the 500 bucks itself, all the goodies taking her shopping, or perhaps, Gia does possess a heart of appreciation and would want to grant a dying Burglar such a wonderful gift ....?
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#241969 - 05/04/07 07:23 AM
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Human Garbage
Registered: 06/23/06
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I have to be somewhat circumspect as you know who is always watching. Generally speaking, seeing escorts can be a let down. When I first started seeing escorts the majority of the encounters left me feeling unsatisfied and dirty. Kind of like strip clubs where you sit there get nothing from it and leave wondering why you did that. The only time I go to a strip club is when there is a porn star dancing that I want to spend some time with and inquire about privates. One of the reasons I started focusing on younger girls is that there is a good chance that a "girls gone wild' mentality and they don't yet see themselves as whores. A hot young girl put in the right situation with the right guy forgets she's not on a date. I focus not just on young girls, but girl next door types. I get the feeling that most of these girls have alot of customers who are in their 60's and 70's and aren't exactly Richard Gere from pretty woman. I'm relatively young, so their usually glad to see someone closer to their age (actually their father's age). Alot of the escorts I have seen have daddy issues and I think I fill that image of what they wish their daddy was like, even when he's railing her from behind and pulling her hair. To give you an idea of my type click Here and check Stacy's profile. I have not seen her, but she is on my radar. These young girls are so underpriced its amazing. $350-500 an hour with discounts for multiple hour sessions. I could probably do an overnight with Stacy for $1,500. I will start seeing a girl like this through the agency and if we hit it off she will give me her phone number so she does not have to lose the agency cut. From there its no time until we move off the clock to sugar daddy. I tend to form friendships with the girls I like and with a few have gone "off the clock". All that really means is that I don't get charged hourly and become more of a sugar daddy. I agree with Burg that a scouting expedition is in order and getting to know the yound lady is in order. I treat it like a real date, get dressed in a nice suit, shower and bring a present. A tip-- always shower and be clean as a whistle, if you want a girl to spend a half hour licking your balls its a requirement. I am definately Capt. Save A Ho. The funny thing about 18 year olds is that if you don't watch it they become 19 year olds and then 20 and so on. I've been seeing one girl since she was 18 and she's 22 now. I haven't paid for it in years and basically got her focus on school and get out of the business. Probably save her from a life of prostitution. I only started seeing porn girls over the past three years and would never see porn star at agency rates. "Dates" are hit or miss and as the saying goes "your millage may vary". I don't really know why i see pornstars other than the challenge. If I see at agency girl it will be through direct contact and atv a lower rate. I am more likely to see pornstars who are under the radar with their escorting activities and rates can be as low as the $500-700 range when work is slow. I agree that Gia would be fun, but she scares me a little.
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#241970 - 05/04/07 07:38 AM
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Human Garbage
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POPWHORE- Have not had the pleasure. After seeing her website I have to say she looks like fun. I am going to a get together for escorts and hobbyiests latter this month I may run into Tatum there.
For now I am focusing on getting in touch with Audrey Bittoni who is in town for the weekend.
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